#46 President Joe Biden

HughFreakingDillon

there are plenty of centrist and conservative members of this forum. Only one or two regularly complain about being "attacked". The rest know how to discuss politely and not just be trolls trying to play devil's advocate. We'll see what side some fall on after the mid terms in 26 and the general in 28. 

gimmesometruth27

"i Am BeInG aTtAcKeD fOr PoStInG aN uNpOpUlAr HoT tAkE!!! eVeRyOnE eLsE iS tOo StUpId To SeE iT mY wAy!!! i Am ThE viCtIm!!111"

Halifax2TheMax

Q up the indictment.

“In the White House, it was universally understood that Joe Biden was in charge. That is completely consistent with my personal experience with the president,” Bates said.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/politics/house-probe-biden-mental-decline-bates

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

there are plenty of centrist and conservative members of this forum. Only one or two regularly complain about being "attacked". The rest know how to discuss politely and not just be trolls trying to play devil's advocate. We'll see what side some fall on after the mid terms in 26 and the general in 28. 

You just never stop with your shadow attacks consisting of unsubstantiated opinions . If that comment happens to be involving me (since your shadow quotes often appear one or two boxes behind my comments it might) you should know I think the Dems should be favored in 26 but not 28. (Edit, because I’ve stated it here often).

Lerxst1992

Forum seems a bit more hostile last week or two. Wonder why.

Lerxst1992

Guess some could be offended being called either impolite or a troll.


 If that accuser has any guts, go ahead and complete your attack with user names, facts, quotes, and include the mods in your response. 

Lerxst1992

We all obviously get attacked whenever posting something outside the accepted orthodoxy…me, sh***, hu****, sea**** do. Obviously more than one or two. Not sure how many others there are that comment from a center right perspective.. There are some moderate democrats, but they rarely avoid toeing the liberal line here.

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

Forum seems a bit more hostile last week or two. Wonder why.

wouldn't this be considered a "shadow attack"? hahaha. only difference is I'm not going to whine about it for the next 3 months. Keep on keepin' on. 

Halifax2TheMax

How many cards in that “victim” deck, anyway?

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

Guess some could be offended being called either impolite or a troll.


 If that accuser has any guts, go ahead and complete your attack with user names, facts, quotes, and include the mods in your response. 

unserious. 

or 12 years old. now I'm not sure. 

Lerxst1992

Courage. My word.

Indifference

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/10/politics/kamala-harris-book-107-days-biden

HughFreakingDillon

from the article:

She also tackles what was one of the trickiest topics facing her as she set out to put this memoir together: how Biden’s age took a public and private toll.

Harris disputes that there was any serious problem.

“On his worst day, he was more deeply knowledgeable, more capable of exercising judgment, and far more compassionate than Donald Trump on his best. But at 81, Joe got tired,” Harris writes. “That’s when his age showed in physical and verbal stumbles. I don’t think it’s any surprise that the debate debacle happened right after two back-to-back trips to Europe and a flight to the West Coast for a Hollywood fundraiser. I don’t believe it was incapacity. If I believed that, I would have said so. As loyal as I am to President Biden, I am more loyal to my country.”

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

from the article:

She also tackles what was one of the trickiest topics facing her as she set out to put this memoir together: how Biden’s age took a public and private toll.

Harris disputes that there was any serious problem.

“On his worst day, he was more deeply knowledgeable, more capable of exercising judgment, and far more compassionate than Donald Trump on his best. But at 81, Joe got tired,” Harris writes. “That’s when his age showed in physical and verbal stumbles. I don’t think it’s any surprise that the debate debacle happened right after two back-to-back trips to Europe and a flight to the West Coast for a Hollywood fundraiser. I don’t believe it was incapacity. If I believed that, I would have said so. As loyal as I am to President Biden, I am more loyal to my country.”

that's fair...and seems to follow what other aides have said

It has also been my opinion of Biden. Capable but the optics were bad. Unfortunately our system has turned into a WWF event.

Lerxst1992

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

from the article:

She also tackles what was one of the trickiest topics facing her as she set out to put this memoir together: how Biden’s age took a public and private toll.

Harris disputes that there was any serious problem.

“On his worst day, he was more deeply knowledgeable, more capable of exercising judgment, and far more compassionate than Donald Trump on his best. But at 81, Joe got tired,” Harris writes. “That’s when his age showed in physical and verbal stumbles. I don’t think it’s any surprise that the debate debacle happened right after two back-to-back trips to Europe and a flight to the West Coast for a Hollywood fundraiser. I don’t believe it was incapacity. If I believed that, I would have said so. As loyal as I am to President Biden, I am more loyal to my country.”

that's fair...and seems to follow what other aides have said

It has also been my opinion of Biden. Capable but the optics were bad. Unfortunately our system has turned into a WWF event.

Good thing we finally beat Medicare and attacked trumps poor economic record for not concentrating enough on Afghanistan.

Lerxst1992

Good thing Biden followed the advice of his commanders in chief and he helped create a thousand trillionaires in America.



this could go on all day….

Gern Blansten

let's hope it doesn't

Lerxst1992

He was off by 90% when estimating the cost of trumps tax cuts.   ;  - ) 

Kat

HughFreakingDillon said:

from the article:

She also tackles what was one of the trickiest topics facing her as she set out to put this memoir together: how Biden’s age took a public and private toll.

Harris disputes that there was any serious problem.

“On his worst day, he was more deeply knowledgeable, more capable of exercising judgment, and far more compassionate than Donald Trump on his best. But at 81, Joe got tired,” Harris writes. “That’s when his age showed in physical and verbal stumbles. I don’t think it’s any surprise that the debate debacle happened right after two back-to-back trips to Europe and a flight to the West Coast for a Hollywood fundraiser. I don’t believe it was incapacity. If I believed that, I would have said so. As loyal as I am to President Biden, I am more loyal to my country.”

This is also how I saw him from where I am. Didn't he just come from an overseas NATO meeting before the debate? He gave a great speech at that meeting. 

Lerxst1992

People, including Harris,  simply do not want to believe what’s right in front of them of them, even with advanced research and data available. 

Thanks Gemini,

” It's much easier for someone with cognitive decline to read a prepared speech than to engage in a public debate without notes. This is because a prepared speech minimizes the cognitive demands that public speaking usually requires.

Why a Prepared Speech is Easier ✍️

A prepared speech allows the individual to operate within their remaining strengths while avoiding common difficulties associated with cognitive decline.

 * Minimizes Spontaneous Language: Cognitive decline, particularly in conditions like Alzheimer's disease, often impairs the ability to find words and form complex, coherent sentences spontaneously. A prepared speech circumvents this by providing a pre-written script, eliminating the need for real-time word retrieval and sentence construction.

 * Reduces Memory Strain: The prepared speech acts as an external memory aid, a function the brain can no longer reliably perform. The person doesn't have to remember their entire argument or the sequence of their points. This reduces the mental load and anxiety of public speaking.

 * Avoids Unpredictability: Public debate requires rapid-fire responses to new, unexpected arguments from an opponent. This is highly stressful for a person with cognitive decline, as it demands quick thinking, information processing, and the ability to formulate counterarguments on the spot. A prepared speech, in contrast, is a predictable and structured task.

Why a Public Debate is So Difficult 🗣️

Engaging in a public debate without notes is incredibly challenging for someone with cognitive decline due to the high cognitive demands of the task.

 * Impaired Executive Function: Debate requires strong executive functions, including the ability to plan, organize thoughts, and switch between different ideas. Cognitive decline compromises these abilities, making it difficult to construct a logical, well-supported argument in a dynamic environment.

 * Difficulty with Attention and Processing: The individual may struggle to pay attention to and process the opponent's complex arguments, leading to an inability to respond effectively. They may miss key points or become easily distracted.

 * Verbal Fluency and Word Retrieval Issues: Spontaneous speech is a major challenge. In the heat of a debate, word-finding difficulties (anomia) and a reduction in sentence complexity become more pronounced, making it nearly impossible to articulate a clear and compelling point of view. The person may use filler words ("um," "uh") or simply repeat themselves.

Edit, and there are two other eyewitness accounts of Biden appearing to suffer from significant decline in the year leading up to that debate, however we do not have that on film.