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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,739
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. 

    huh.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    edited August 28
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. I was there. When Ed mentioned the R word, the boos were loud and prolonged.


    ” According to multiple reviews and fan accounts from their September 2024 concerts at Madison Square Garden, Pearl Jam was not booed when lead singer Eddie Vedder brought up political topics.
    While Vedder is known for being outspoken on political issues, including giving "React, Respond" a new name for 2024—"Don't Complain, Vote"—the audience reactions described were overwhelmingly positive. A review in The Music Universe mentions the crowd "erupted in love" and rallied around a young boy Vedder spoke about, which occurred in the same show as his "Don't Complain, Vote" message. Another review noted that Vedder used the stage to advocate for pro-choice politicians and that his statements were "reinvigorating."
    Some online forum discussions among fans did express mixed feelings about the number of covers or the specific song choices, including political ones, but there is no evidence of the band being booed for bringing up the Republican Party. The overall tone of the concert reviews and fan reactions was that the shows were "amazing" and "fire," and the crowd was "alive" and "singing passionately."

    post the clip. I'm sure it exists if it's real. 
    Have at it, others also spoke about him getting “ heckled and booed.” Of course the only place people expect us to lie is on a politics forum.



     No need to go further than pg 1

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/304827/new-york-ny-2-fanviews-here-9-4-24/p12



    I accused no one of lying. I wanted to see/hear for myself, which you didn’t post. 

    I read the entire page 1 and there was 1 person who said “a few assholes booed” followed by several others posting they heard no such thing. 

    As I expected. 

    Edit to add: it’s always very telling when a person makes a claim, then gets defensive when asked to back up/verify said claim. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    Tim Simmons said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. 

    huh.
    Yet uses it as a verification tool for his posts. 

    Huh indeed. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




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