Law Enforcement. The Good , The Bad and The Abusive

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    Citing a "culture of corruption," an Alabama grand jury has recommended the city of Hanceville's police department be "immediately abolished," officials said Wednesday while announcing the indictment of five of the agency's officers, including its chief.

    Read more: https://abcnews.link/EtpQe57
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  • mickeyrat
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    Evendale, OH police pulled down their "personnel biographies" section on their website after video of their police officers assisting unmasked Ohio Nazis emerges...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn4Xx-3D48I
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  • mickeyrat
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    The off-duty sheriff from the Idaho video is collecting $150,820 a year in disability benefits from the LS County Employees Retirement Association.  Yet he attempted to grab Dr. Borrenpohl from her seat.

    Seems like the sheriff needs a medical reassessment to see if he still needs that $150,000 yearly disability check.

    FYI - that disability check is $12,568 monthly.

    I receive disability - I get about that much per year.

    Resistance2025
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  • mickeyrat
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    More on the sketchy background of that sheriff:

    - Drew criticism for pulling out pepper spray during a filmed traffic stop.
    - Made headlines for unauthorized removal of library books he deemed inappropriate
    - Faces a $500,000 defamation lawsuit from a local photographer.

    https://lamag.com/news/educator-dragged-from-idaho-town-hall-on-orders-of-ex-la-sheriffs-deputy-collecting-150k-in-disability
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  • mickeyrat
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    NEW: One Community Response Team officer swerved into a motorcyclist, killing him. Another needlessly stopped a pedestrian, then shoved him into a car window. A third hit a man and then kicked his head.
    https://propub.li/4kFp9NR
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  • mickeyrat
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    1/ THREAD: It’s Memorial Day weekend, 2023, and Sammy Williams is riding his motorbike in NYC. Suddenly, an NYPD officer swerves into him, sending him flying into the air.

    Williams would die from his horrific injuries.

    His family never hears from the NYPD. Instead, they get a bill from the city demanding $3,429.23 — for the damage Williams caused to the police car.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Back the blue, eh?

    In July, 2021, I received a message from an encrypted e-mail account. Using a pseudonym, the writer told me that she was a federal prosecutor desperate to apprehend a serial predator and was encountering obstruction. “There is a possibility that this person is being protected by local law enforcement,” she wrote. “All I want is some accountability.”

    In the following four years, I interviewed more than fifty sources and scrutinized hundreds of pages of legal documents tied to the case, as a growing number of lawsuits and investigations suggested that one of the most prolific rapists in American history may have operated unchecked for years due to police corruption.

    The anonymous prosecutor who e-mailed me was Kat Dahl. She had been assigned to work with the police in Johnson City, Tennessee, and had been stationed there for just over a year when she learned of a local businessman named Sean Williams. A woman had recently fallen from his window, winding up in a coma. While searching his apartment, police had found a handwritten list: twenty-two names, one accompanied by the word “baby.” At the top was an underlined word: “Raped.”

    Dahl became fixated, staying up late researching Williams and driving to locations linked to him. But she faced resistance. Johnson City police seemed reluctant to share materials. They failed to search devices they’d recovered. They appeared uninterested in pursuing interviews with accusers. When Dahl began seeking out victims, she faced complaints about her job performance.

    Thwarted in her efforts to pursue the rape allegations, Dahl eventually secured an indictment against Williams on a more minor charge. But, even then, he evaded capture an improbable number of times, ultimately remaining at large for more than two years. Investigators would eventually find in Williams’s possession thousands of videos and images that, prosecutors say, depict sex crimes against some sixty-seven victims, many of whom were drugged and unconscious, including multiple minors. Williams has denied giving women date-rape drugs, and says that any encounters with his accusers were consensual.

    Speaking to me from jail, Williams made a surprising claim: that his criminal activity had been made possible because, for years, he had been paying off Johnson City police officers through an associate. He also accused police of stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from his safe. A lawsuit brought by his accusers has forced officers to disclose financial records that, the plaintiffs say, document the payoffs. Police have denied the existence of any scheme to protect Williams, but recently agreed to a twenty-eight million dollar settlement with victims of sexual violence.

    Key elements of Williams’s account of the scheme remain impossible to prove, and more conclusive investigations may prove elusive. The Department of Justice’s Public Integrity Section, which is responsible for investigating police corruption, is being reduced by the Trump Administration to just a handful of employees.

    How Police Let One of America’s Most Prolific Predators Get Away
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/03/31/how-police-let-one-of-americas-most-prolific-predators-get-away?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_Paid_032425&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&utm_term=tny_daily_digest&bxid=65de70e67bc93c1988ebf3f0&cndid=76568924&hasha=e67d45eafda7b845f67e412137102490&hashb=fe46ca56deb9b2e99868359ceb381ea18821e369&hashc=55add14879ecb3b01593138052904730c7eda859a157aebe00c18daa2fa62f45&esrc=OIDC_SELECT_ACCOUNT_PAGE&mbid=CRMNYR012019

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  • mickeyrat
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    NYPD's Community Response Team "is a dangerous unit, and ProPublica’s reporting shows it operates without accountability under the protection of a corrupt and compromised mayor,” said civil rights group LatinoJustice.

    Read more: https://propub.li/4lD8iMq
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    NEW: An Algorithm Deemed This Nearly Blind 70-Year-Old Prisoner a “Moderate Risk.” Now He’s No Longer Eligible for Parole.

    A Louisiana law cedes much of the power of the parole board to an algorithm that bars thousands of prisoners from a shot at early release. Civil rights attorneys say it could disproportionately harm Black people — and may even be unconstitutional.
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  • mickeyrat
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    A pair of Cook County Jail detainees are alleging sheriff’s deputies encouraged a third inmate to tie them up and sexually assault them at knifepoint after one of them complained about forced sexual encounters with a guard in the jail complex.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/05/01/cook-county-jail-inmates-claim-guards-allowed-attack-in-retaliation/
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  • mickeyrat
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    not a good look....


    Fellow Summerville, South Carolinaians.  Summerville Police very harshly arrest a 13 year old boy for selling flowers wirhout a permit or license.  This is unacceptable.

    https://www.threads.com/@tomtom_threats_139/post/DJb2wFzuDkO?xmt=AQF0lBmezrTRbOOVZ5Gy6f3FQxV09i3ddTc0VCDZe1Rn_A
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  • mickeyrat
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    insult to injury....
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  • josevolution
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    mickeyrat said:
    insult to injury....
    If this was a white girl killed by a black officer he’d get 10 years and pension taken away 
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  • mickeyrat
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    A US federal judge has sentenced an ex-Kentucky police officer to nearly three years in prison for using excessive force during the 2020 deadly Breonna Taylor raid, declining a US Justice Department recommendation that no prison time be given the defendant.

    Brett Hankison, who fired 10 shots during the raid but didn’t hit anyone, was the only officer on the scene charged in the Black woman’s death.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Just comply. You have no rights. Let the lawyers and courts sort it out, after your beating or death. What a great country. Because, white privilege.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/23/us/william-mcneil-jr-jacksonville-police-violence-video

    Well, it was cloudy, maybe raining, so he should have had his headlights on, and if 1,000 drivers put their headlights on because of it, I’m okay with it. Because you know, I pay my taxes and obey the law. Always.
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  • Get_Right
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    Show ID, registration and proof of insurance, then nothing happens. People think they can fuck with law enforcement. You cannot. The more you piss them off the worse it gets. It will not end well for you. Why do you need my ID? I did nothing wrong. You have no right to search me or my vehicle without a warrant. Guess what? They do have that authority. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Get_Right said:
    Show ID, registration and proof of insurance, then nothing happens. People think they can fuck with law enforcement. You cannot. The more you piss them off the worse it gets. It will not end well for you. Why do you need my ID? I did nothing wrong. You have no right to search me or my vehicle without a warrant. Guess what? They do have that authority. 
    Cite the law, counselor. Law enforcement thinks they can assault you and even kill you with impunity. I know who’s side your on because of your self proclaimed white privilege. I bet you sleep well at night knowing that 1,000 drivers will now turn on their headlights when it’s cloudy out.

    Define “piss off” in the context of the law.
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  • Get_Right
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    Get_Right said:
    Show ID, registration and proof of insurance, then nothing happens. People think they can fuck with law enforcement. You cannot. The more you piss them off the worse it gets. It will not end well for you. Why do you need my ID? I did nothing wrong. You have no right to search me or my vehicle without a warrant. Guess what? They do have that authority. 
    Cite the law, counselor. Law enforcement thinks they can assault you and even kill you with impunity. I know who’s side your on because of your self proclaimed white privilege. I bet you sleep well at night knowing that 1,000 drivers will now turn on their headlights when it’s cloudy out.

    Define “piss off” in the context of the law.

    There is no written law that defines when an officer feels threatened. There is no written law regarding the failure to adhere to an officer's request. Provide an ID and move on. Why is that so hard for so many people? Do not have an ID? Well then you might be subject to further investigation. What person does not have an ID or is otherwise afraid of providing it? Someone that has something to hide.

    Edit: Technically it is obstruction. If they cannot ID you, then you can be accused of obstructing. If you fail to follow instructions then it might include resisting. It is not hard for the police to find a reason. And yes, that would have to be worked out later in front of a judge. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Show ID, registration and proof of insurance, then nothing happens. People think they can fuck with law enforcement. You cannot. The more you piss them off the worse it gets. It will not end well for you. Why do you need my ID? I did nothing wrong. You have no right to search me or my vehicle without a warrant. Guess what? They do have that authority. 
    Cite the law, counselor. Law enforcement thinks they can assault you and even kill you with impunity. I know who’s side your on because of your self proclaimed white privilege. I bet you sleep well at night knowing that 1,000 drivers will now turn on their headlights when it’s cloudy out.

    Define “piss off” in the context of the law.

    There is no written law that defines when an officer feels threatened. There is no written law regarding the failure to adhere to an officer's request. Provide an ID and move on. Why is that so hard for so many people? Do not have an ID? Well then you might be subject to further investigation. What person does not have an ID or is otherwise afraid of providing it? Someone that has something to hide.
    You didn’t define “piss off” in the context of the law. The constitution doesn’t stop at being pulled over.

    What a stupid conclusion. I grab my credit card or cash but not my wallet and walk up the street to the conah store to buy a gallon of milk. No ID. I’ve got something to hide. Get the fuck out of here with your normalization of authoritarianism. For fucks sake, from an attorney no less.
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  • Get_Right
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    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Show ID, registration and proof of insurance, then nothing happens. People think they can fuck with law enforcement. You cannot. The more you piss them off the worse it gets. It will not end well for you. Why do you need my ID? I did nothing wrong. You have no right to search me or my vehicle without a warrant. Guess what? They do have that authority. 
    Cite the law, counselor. Law enforcement thinks they can assault you and even kill you with impunity. I know who’s side your on because of your self proclaimed white privilege. I bet you sleep well at night knowing that 1,000 drivers will now turn on their headlights when it’s cloudy out.

    Define “piss off” in the context of the law.

    There is no written law that defines when an officer feels threatened. There is no written law regarding the failure to adhere to an officer's request. Provide an ID and move on. Why is that so hard for so many people? Do not have an ID? Well then you might be subject to further investigation. What person does not have an ID or is otherwise afraid of providing it? Someone that has something to hide.
    You didn’t define “piss off” in the context of the law. The constitution doesn’t stop at being pulled over.

    What a stupid conclusion. I grab my credit card or cash but not my wallet and walk up the street to the conah store to buy a gallon of milk. No ID. I’ve got something to hide. Get the fuck out of here with your normalization of authoritarianism. For fucks sake, from an attorney no less.
    Keep up your uninformed rhetoric. You are not getting stopped at the "conah" store. Whatever that means. It is not complicated. If you have nothing to hide than there is no reason to fear the police. And yes, police have additional privileges when it comes to traffic stops.  Piss off means giving the police an additional basis to hold a suspect. Saying fuck you can be enough. There Is no written law on that. But keep suggesting that the constitution will save you in that instance. It will not.