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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754

    Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are. 


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,657
    DE4173 said:
    Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

    In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
    "throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

    Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?
    I'm not sure where you got the idea that anyone has ever suggested that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,016
    DE4173 said:
    Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

    In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
    "throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

    Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?
    i agree if you point a gun or firebomb a cop they can shoot you. 

    the question that needs to be asked is why do the police even need to be there if the protest is peaceful? their presence only makes the situation more tense. and the sheriff's rhetoric is throwing gasoline on the candle pre-emptively. 

    does he think people are scared of a trumper sheriff?  because they aren't. all he is doing is agitating people that were already going to be protesting.

    law enforcement should de-escalate, and this dude is turning up the heat already. 
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
    PJ_Soul said:
    DE4173 said:
    Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

    In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
    "throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

    Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?
    I'm not sure where you got the idea that anyone has ever suggested that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. 
    My post is a question of what the protocol of law enforcement when presented with people throwing bricks, firebombs at them or pointing a gun at them. Should they be detained and arrested? Should they be killed, graveyard dead?

    I don't see where I inferred that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. If that is read that way, that was not intended.
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  • Poncier
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    josevolution said:
    DE4173 said:
    Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

    In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
    "throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

    Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?
    they should throw all those rotting oranges that are not being harvested j/k but no really they are rotting on the trees 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,011
    Poncier said:
    josevolution said:
    DE4173 said:
    Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

    In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
    "throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

    Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?
    they should throw all those rotting oranges that are not being harvested j/k but no really they are rotting on the trees 


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    COOTWH needs to resign. White knuckle grasping, straining and wheezing whilst ascending a flight of stairs indicates he’s not up to the task. His rambling word salads are indicative of a lax of oxygen to the brain. He might stroke out.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,011
    COOTWH needs to resign. White knuckle grasping, straining and wheezing whilst ascending a flight of stairs indicates he’s not up to the task. His rambling word salads are indicative of a lax of oxygen to the brain. He might stroke out.
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    DE4173 said:
    Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

    In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
    "throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

    Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?
    i agree if you point a gun or firebomb a cop they can shoot you. 

    the question that needs to be asked is why do the police even need to be there if the protest is peaceful? their presence only makes the situation more tense. and the sheriff's rhetoric is throwing gasoline on the candle pre-emptively. 

    does he think people are scared of a trumper sheriff?  because they aren't. all he is doing is agitating people that were already going to be protesting.

    law enforcement should de-escalate, and this dude is turning up the heat already. 
    I think protestors that are peaceful wouldn't be concerned about a sheriff threatening people that would look to cause harm to law enforcement.

    I couldn't imagine law enforcement not being present at these protests. It would be a free-for-all with looters and also agitators (maga, proud boys, etc) to start violence against the peaceful group.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Merkin Baller said:

    Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are. 


    I’ll own it. I was one of the “never could have happened here” and “checks and balances” people Halifax keeps referring to. 

    I was dead wrong. 

    I am speechless watching this unfold. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    DE4173 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    DE4173 said:
    Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

    In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
    "throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

    Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?
    I'm not sure where you got the idea that anyone has ever suggested that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. 
    My post is a question of what the protocol of law enforcement when presented with people throwing bricks, firebombs at them or pointing a gun at them. Should they be detained and arrested? Should they be killed, graveyard dead?

    I don't see where I inferred that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. If that is read that way, that was not intended.
    Police can shoot if they feel their lives or the lives of anyone else are in grave danger as the result of the actions of the perpetrators. Reasonable force. 

    Threatening to kill preemptively is not covered under reasonable force. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,148
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are. 


    I’ll own it. I was one of the “never could have happened here” and “checks and balances” people Halifax keeps referring to. 

    I was dead wrong. 

    I am speechless watching this unfold. 
    This could all be stopped by republicans....they know better. Fucking Rubio knows better. Evan Vance
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754
    Gern Blansten said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are. 


    I’ll own it. I was one of the “never could have happened here” and “checks and balances” people Halifax keeps referring to. 

    I was dead wrong. 

    I am speechless watching this unfold. 
    This could all be stopped by republicans....they know better. Fucking Rubio knows better. Evan Vance
    Correct. 

    They want this. As does no small amount of the American public, because they're gullible enough to believe it will only be others whose rights are taken away. Lyndon Johnson hit the nail on the head with his quote about the lowest white man. 

    I can't fucking believe where we're at. 
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    DE4173 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    DE4173 said:
    Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

    In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
    "throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

    Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?
    I'm not sure where you got the idea that anyone has ever suggested that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. 
    My post is a question of what the protocol of law enforcement when presented with people throwing bricks, firebombs at them or pointing a gun at them. Should they be detained and arrested? Should they be killed, graveyard dead?

    I don't see where I inferred that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. If that is read that way, that was not intended.
    Police can shoot if they feel their lives or the lives of anyone else are in grave danger as the result of the actions of the perpetrators. Reasonable force. 

    Threatening to kill preemptively is not covered under reasonable force. 
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  • josevolution
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are. 


    I’ll own it. I was one of the “never could have happened here” and “checks and balances” people Halifax keeps referring to. 

    I was dead wrong. 

    I am speechless watching this unfold. 
    That’s what honest folks like us do we own our mistakes but I was always with Halifax on the takeover of this country by this administration 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    I was there pretty quickly in 2017....then as things slowed down I backed off. I was back when Trump was elected last fall. But even I, in all my negativity and cynicism, never thought it would happen this fast.

    I used to piss at least one of you off with my predictions...
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    OnWis97 said:
    I was there pretty quickly in 2017....then as things slowed down I backed off. I was back when Trump was elected last fall. But even I, in all my negativity and cynicism, never thought it would happen this fast.

    I used to piss at least one of you off with my predictions...
    I think that was me. 😂 

    owning it part two haha
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  • OnWis97
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    (it was; LOL. And I wish it was you, not I, that was correct.)
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  • Lerxst1992
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    trump's claim about biden's alleged use of autopen, something all presidents use, is "brilliant"? That's a low fucking bar for brilliant. 

    the amount of times the same poster claims trump is brilliant one week and a complete fucking moron the next is next level insanity. 

    Mr. Strawman, Do you know how to read English,  because you clearly did not understand the point?

    It's obvious biden was not of sound mind and the example Trump is using is Biden never had such a sloppy policy on the border in his entire career.

    Not your misinterpretation that any president would use the auto pen. The pen is imagery.. But these words are wasted on those who lack the ability to think.  Must be a benefit of socialism, that it's not required up there

    Probably why you never quote. Plausible deniability.
  • Lerxst1992
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    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    What exactly are Democrats protesting on the streets? What we are seeing is directly relating to Democratic policy on immigration over the last 10 years. We had our chance and blew it. Believe it or not right before these protest started. Trump had a solid approval rating on immigration. We had an election, the voters judged Democrats on their record of immigration, and Democrats lost. These protests are more of the same and could end up blowing up as usual in Democrat‘s faces.

    I am not saying that I support his immigration policy. But I know in order to have power you need to win elections and in order to do that you need to reach moderate voters. 54% tells us that the moderates are not with us. We need a new strategy, because the old politics from his first term are not working regarding immigration.



    “ CBS News/YouGov poll conducted June 4–6 found that 54 percent of Americans approve of Trump's deportation policy—higher than his approval ratings on the economy (42 percent) or inflation (39 percent). The poll was completed just days before the president deployed National Guard troops to Los Angeles on June 8, following escalating protests.
    Who was your preferred dem primary candidate prior to Brandon and his deep state foisting Kamala on us and taking your choice away in the biggest political scam of all time?

    I mean you love politics right, like so many on here? You read the articles, you post them here, you spend a lot of time on forums like this one, you love it?

    How does it feel to be completely out classed and outsmarted in politics by trump?

    When you ignore something that your party does poorly you leave an opening for your opposition. Politics 101.


    That's why ignoring what the Democrats did in 2024, is just about the stupidest idea in politics

    Have you seen Trump's latest bit on this lately? His little bit about Bidens Auto pen? It's brilliant and it makes you look and most of the Democrats, including on here, look extremely extremely unintelligent


    He says that bit that biden spent an entire career and never has he supported such a sloppy and open border. There is no way that Biden could have believed in this. It was his puppeteers around him formulating this policy with the auto pen. Prove trump wrong.

    Democrats could deal with this now, or get slammed the next time when Rs start making the attacks in the next presidential election. When it rings true, and  you ignored it, you lose
    I gotta agree here.  Unless Halifax changes his posting style and ignoring the Democrats deficiencies, we will never win another election.  

    Get your shit together H2M.  We're all depending on you.  

    It's a good thing that understanding basic phrases such as "so many on here" or "most of the Democrats" is completely unnecessary to demonstrate the cognitive ability to reach the VP Suite. Good thing you got there early.

    Sounds like it was a fixed process though

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