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Merkin Baller · June 13

Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are.

PJ_Soul · June 13

DE4173 said:

Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
"throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?

I'm not sure where you got the idea that anyone has ever suggested that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested.

gimmesometruth27 · June 13

DE4173 said:

Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
"throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?

i agree if you point a gun or firebomb a cop they can shoot you.

the question that needs to be asked is why do the police even need to be there if the protest is peaceful? their presence only makes the situation more tense. and the sheriff's rhetoric is throwing gasoline on the candle pre-emptively.

does he think people are scared of a trumper sheriff? because they aren't. all he is doing is agitating people that were already going to be protesting.

law enforcement should de-escalate, and this dude is turning up the heat already.

DE4173 · June 13

PJ_Soul said:

DE4173 said:

Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
"throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?

I'm not sure where you got the idea that anyone has ever suggested that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested.

My post is a question of what the protocol of law enforcement when presented with people throwing bricks, firebombs at them or pointing a gun at them. Should they be detained and arrested? Should they be killed, graveyard dead?

I don't see where I inferred that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. If that is read that way, that was not intended.

Poncier · June 13

josevolution said:

DE4173 said:

Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
"throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?

they should throw all those rotting oranges that are not being harvested j/k but no really they are rotting on the trees

Image: https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2303958/former-president-donald-trump.jpg?w=1600&h=1600&q=88&f=193b48f70ab967bb1d6c22483c4e5db0

Halifax2TheMax · June 13

Poncier said:

josevolution said:

DE4173 said:

Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
"throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?

they should throw all those rotting oranges that are not being harvested j/k but no really they are rotting on the trees

Halifax2TheMax · June 13

COOTWH needs to resign. White knuckle grasping, straining and wheezing whilst ascending a flight of stairs indicates he’s not up to the task. His rambling word salads are indicative of a lax of oxygen to the brain. He might stroke out.

Halifax2TheMax · June 13

COOTWH needs to resign. White knuckle grasping, straining and wheezing whilst ascending a flight of stairs indicates he’s not up to the task. His rambling word salads are indicative of a lax of oxygen to the brain. He might stroke out.

DE4173 · June 13

gimmesometruth27 said:

DE4173 said:

Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
"throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?

i agree if you point a gun or firebomb a cop they can shoot you.

the question that needs to be asked is why do the police even need to be there if the protest is peaceful? their presence only makes the situation more tense. and the sheriff's rhetoric is throwing gasoline on the candle pre-emptively.

does he think people are scared of a trumper sheriff? because they aren't. all he is doing is agitating people that were already going to be protesting.

law enforcement should de-escalate, and this dude is turning up the heat already.

I think protestors that are peaceful wouldn't be concerned about a sheriff threatening people that would look to cause harm to law enforcement.

I couldn't imagine law enforcement not being present at these protests. It would be a free-for-all with looters and also agitators (maga, proud boys, etc) to start violence against the peaceful group.

HughFreakingDillon · June 13

Merkin Baller said:

Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are.

I’ll own it. I was one of the “never could have happened here” and “checks and balances” people Halifax keeps referring to.

I was dead wrong.

I am speechless watching this unfold.

HughFreakingDillon · June 13

DE4173 said:

PJ_Soul said:

DE4173 said:

Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
"throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?

I'm not sure where you got the idea that anyone has ever suggested that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested.

My post is a question of what the protocol of law enforcement when presented with people throwing bricks, firebombs at them or pointing a gun at them. Should they be detained and arrested? Should they be killed, graveyard dead?

I don't see where I inferred that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. If that is read that way, that was not intended.

Police can shoot if they feel their lives or the lives of anyone else are in grave danger as the result of the actions of the perpetrators. Reasonable force.

Threatening to kill preemptively is not covered under reasonable force.

Gern Blansten · June 13

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are.

I’ll own it. I was one of the “never could have happened here” and “checks and balances” people Halifax keeps referring to.

I was dead wrong.

I am speechless watching this unfold.

This could all be stopped by republicans....they know better. Fucking Rubio knows better. Evan Vance

Merkin Baller · June 13

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are.

I’ll own it. I was one of the “never could have happened here” and “checks and balances” people Halifax keeps referring to.

I was dead wrong.

I am speechless watching this unfold.

This could all be stopped by republicans....they know better. Fucking Rubio knows better. Evan Vance

Correct.

They want this. As does no small amount of the American public, because they're gullible enough to believe it will only be others whose rights are taken away. Lyndon Johnson hit the nail on the head with his quote about the lowest white man.

I can't fucking believe where we're at.

DE4173 · June 13

HughFreakingDillon said:

DE4173 said:

PJ_Soul said:

DE4173 said:

Yes, Trump/Jan 6th. I get it. Point taken and understood.

In this instance, what is the protocol for law enforcement in Florida when faced with people
"throw(ing) a brick, a firebomb or point(ing) a gun at one of our deputies?" Detain and arrest?

Is it a violation of those people's First Amendment rights?

I'm not sure where you got the idea that anyone has ever suggested that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested.

My post is a question of what the protocol of law enforcement when presented with people throwing bricks, firebombs at them or pointing a gun at them. Should they be detained and arrested? Should they be killed, graveyard dead?

I don't see where I inferred that someone doing any of those things should not be arrested. If that is read that way, that was not intended.

Police can shoot if they feel their lives or the lives of anyone else are in grave danger as the result of the actions of the perpetrators. Reasonable force.

Threatening to kill preemptively is not covered under reasonable force.

Thank you!

josevolution · June 13

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

Americans goose stepping their way into a police state with smiles on their faces was never on my bingo card, but here we are.

I’ll own it. I was one of the “never could have happened here” and “checks and balances” people Halifax keeps referring to.

I was dead wrong.

I am speechless watching this unfold.

That’s what honest folks like us do we own our mistakes but I was always with Halifax on the takeover of this country by this administration

OnWis97 · June 13

I was there pretty quickly in 2017....then as things slowed down I backed off. I was back when Trump was elected last fall. But even I, in all my negativity and cynicism, never thought it would happen this fast.

I used to piss at least one of you off with my predictions...

HughFreakingDillon · June 13

OnWis97 said:

I was there pretty quickly in 2017....then as things slowed down I backed off. I was back when Trump was elected last fall. But even I, in all my negativity and cynicism, never thought it would happen this fast.

I used to piss at least one of you off with my predictions...

I think that was me. 😂

owning it part two haha

OnWis97 · June 13

(it was; LOL. And I wish it was you, not I, that was correct.)

Lerxst1992 · June 13

HughFreakingDillon said:

trump's claim about biden's alleged use of autopen, something all presidents use, is "brilliant"? That's a low fucking bar for brilliant.

the amount of times the same poster claims trump is brilliant one week and a complete fucking moron the next is next level insanity.

Mr. Strawman, Do you know how to read English, because you clearly did not understand the point?

It's obvious biden was not of sound mind and the example Trump is using is Biden never had such a sloppy policy on the border in his entire career.

Not your misinterpretation that any president would use the auto pen. The pen is imagery.. But these words are wasted on those who lack the ability to think. Must be a benefit of socialism, that it's not required up there

Probably why you never quote. Plausible deniability.

Lerxst1992 · June 13

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

What exactly are Democrats protesting on the streets? What we are seeing is directly relating to Democratic policy on immigration over the last 10 years. We had our chance and blew it. Believe it or not right before these protest started. Trump had a solid approval rating on immigration. We had an election, the voters judged Democrats on their record of immigration, and Democrats lost. These protests are more of the same and could end up blowing up as usual in Democrat‘s faces.

I am not saying that I support his immigration policy. But I know in order to have power you need to win elections and in order to do that you need to reach moderate voters. 54% tells us that the moderates are not with us. We need a new strategy, because the old politics from his first term are not working regarding immigration.

“ CBS News/YouGov poll conducted June 4–6 found that 54 percent of Americans approve of Trump's deportation policy—higher than his approval ratings on the economy (42 percent) or inflation (39 percent). The poll was completed just days before the president deployed National Guard troops to Los Angeles on June 8, following escalating protests.

Who was your preferred dem primary candidate prior to Brandon and his deep state foisting Kamala on us and taking your choice away in the biggest political scam of all time?

I mean you love politics right, like so many on here? You read the articles, you post them here, you spend a lot of time on forums like this one, you love it?

How does it feel to be completely out classed and outsmarted in politics by trump?

When you ignore something that your party does poorly you leave an opening for your opposition. Politics 101.

That's why ignoring what the Democrats did in 2024, is just about the stupidest idea in politics

Have you seen Trump's latest bit on this lately? His little bit about Bidens Auto pen? It's brilliant and it makes you look and most of the Democrats, including on here, look extremely extremely unintelligent

He says that bit that biden spent an entire career and never has he supported such a sloppy and open border. There is no way that Biden could have believed in this. It was his puppeteers around him formulating this policy with the auto pen. Prove trump wrong.

Democrats could deal with this now, or get slammed the next time when Rs start making the attacks in the next presidential election. When it rings true, and you ignored it, you lose

I gotta agree here. Unless Halifax changes his posting style and ignoring the Democrats deficiencies, we will never win another election.

Get your shit together H2M. We're all depending on you.

It's a good thing that understanding basic phrases such as "so many on here" or "most of the Democrats" is completely unnecessary to demonstrate the cognitive ability to reach the VP Suite. Good thing you got there early.

Sounds like it was a fixed process though

Lerxst1992 · June 13

PJ_Soul said:

I suppose I'm a simpleton, but I still can't even really figure out wtf Biden did that was so bad, or why so many Americans think their country was falling apart.... As far as I can tell, the only really serious problem the American people had - before Trump started blowing everything up - was all the rich people hoarding all the money at the expense of everyone else, which is still the case. Now things are a LOT worse than that

To be fair Biden demonstrated a complete lack of cognitive ability. Democrats demonstrated a complete lack of trustworthiness. And Harris could not connect with voters

At the risk of receiving another personal attack I'll give this a try. The following quote is from a Centrist board that I read.

To be clear, I thought the senator getting tackled at the Noem speech yesterday was horrific. That's the topic

But try to read carefully what this Republican is saying. They're not wrong.

Trump has caused many on the left to be more extreme. They (independents) see Democrats as a variation of trumpism.

I have talked many times about my experiences in the fall where I needed to see many folks in the medical community, pt, ot, nurses, etc. people who should be solid Democrats because they rely on the healthcare system for income.

Especially after Trump said he was going to cut 2 trillion from the budget, where a lot of that has to be cut from the healthcare system. I plainly asked many people where is your money going to come from? They just don't care. They cannot resonate with democrats, and the party needs to address this, yet has no idea it's even a problem.

if most Democrats in dc think similar to what we read on this forum, we are screwed. We even got vp's misunderstanding that point on here

But so many are turned off by democrats. "Both sides are the same" I can write a book about it, but it's usually ignored by the left, like it is on here. Ignore at your pleasure

The "crime against humanity" part sounds like he's quoting Hal.
...

"He interrupted at a point he was not supposed to

He was asked to stop and sit down

The fbi agents may not know he's a senator

I have no issue with the reaction by the fbi

The left acting like how he was treated is a crime against humanity is why they keep losing elections"

Halifax2TheMax · June 13

Lerxst1992 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I suppose I'm a simpleton, but I still can't even really figure out wtf Biden did that was so bad, or why so many Americans think their country was falling apart.... As far as I can tell, the only really serious problem the American people had - before Trump started blowing everything up - was all the rich people hoarding all the money at the expense of everyone else, which is still the case. Now things are a LOT worse than that

To be fair Biden demonstrated a complete lack of cognitive ability. Democrats demonstrated a complete lack of trustworthiness. And Harris could not connect with voters

At the risk of receiving another personal attack I'll give this a try. The following quote is from a Centrist board that I read.

To be clear, I thought the senator getting tackled at the Noem speech yesterday was horrific. That's the topic

But try to read carefully what this Republican is saying. They're not wrong.

Trump has caused many on the left to be more extreme. They (independents) see Democrats as a variation of trumpism.

I have talked many times about my experiences in the fall where I needed to see many folks in the medical community, pt, ot, nurses, etc. people who should be solid Democrats because they rely on the healthcare system for income.

Especially after Trump said he was going to cut 2 trillion from the budget, where a lot of that has to be cut from the healthcare system. I plainly asked many people where is your money going to come from? They just don't care. They cannot resonate with democrats, and the party needs to address this, yet has no idea it's even a problem.

if most Democrats in dc think similar to what we read on this forum, we are screwed. We even got vp's misunderstanding that point on here

But so many are turned off by democrats. "Both sides are the same" I can write a book about it, but it's usually ignored by the left, like it is on here. Ignore at your pleasure

The "crime against humanity" part sounds like he's quoting Hal.
...

"He interrupted at a point he was not supposed to
He was asked to stop and sit down
The fbi agents may not know he's a senator

I have no issue with the reaction by the fbi

The left acting like how he was treated is a crime against humanity is why they keep losing elections"

What a load of garbage. A repub says it so it must be true?

Well, just wait until all your healthcare sources of information are either unemployed or forced to see double the patient load with sicker patients without the ability to pay. That’ll show those Dems!

Keep minimizing what is happening. It’ll serve you well in the long run.

Why won’t you answer this question? Who was your preferred dem candidate for the primary that never happened because Brandon and his deep state foisted Kamala upon us in the biggest political scam of all time?

HughFreakingDillon · June 13

god this "keeps losing elections" bullshit. make it stop.

Halifax2TheMax · June 13

HughFreakingDillon said:

god this "keeps losing elections" bullshit. make it stop.

Psssssst. Their all in on the white nationalist authoritarianism.

mickeyrat · June 14

DE4173 said:

Siete! 💪✌️

In Parma, Ohio(Ukraine West) for the weekend for an AA Conference.

3.3 miles away. 11-1.

I will be there. So will my wife....

brianlux · June 14

Centrist. Interesting word. I guess I don't know what the fuck it means.

Be safe tomorrow all you lovable leftie weirdos.

Lerxst1992 · June 14

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I suppose I'm a simpleton, but I still can't even really figure out wtf Biden did that was so bad, or why so many Americans think their country was falling apart.... As far as I can tell, the only really serious problem the American people had - before Trump started blowing everything up - was all the rich people hoarding all the money at the expense of everyone else, which is still the case. Now things are a LOT worse than that

To be fair Biden demonstrated a complete lack of cognitive ability. Democrats demonstrated a complete lack of trustworthiness. And Harris could not connect with voters

At the risk of receiving another personal attack I'll give this a try. The following quote is from a Centrist board that I read.

To be clear, I thought the senator getting tackled at the Noem speech yesterday was horrific. That's the topic

But try to read carefully what this Republican is saying. They're not wrong.

Trump has caused many on the left to be more extreme. They (independents) see Democrats as a variation of trumpism.

I have talked many times about my experiences in the fall where I needed to see many folks in the medical community, pt, ot, nurses, etc. people who should be solid Democrats because they rely on the healthcare system for income.

Especially after Trump said he was going to cut 2 trillion from the budget, where a lot of that has to be cut from the healthcare system. I plainly asked many people where is your money going to come from? They just don't care. They cannot resonate with democrats, and the party needs to address this, yet has no idea it's even a problem.

if most Democrats in dc think similar to what we read on this forum, we are screwed. We even got vp's misunderstanding that point on here

But so many are turned off by democrats. "Both sides are the same" I can write a book about it, but it's usually ignored by the left, like it is on here. Ignore at your pleasure

The "crime against humanity" part sounds like he's quoting Hal.
...

"He interrupted at a point he was not supposed to
He was asked to stop and sit down
The fbi agents may not know he's a senator

I have no issue with the reaction by the fbi

The left acting like how he was treated is a crime against humanity is why they keep losing elections"

What a load of garbage. A repub says it so it must be true?

Well, just wait until all your healthcare sources of information are either unemployed or forced to see double the patient load with sicker patients without the ability to pay. That’ll show those Dems!

Keep minimizing what is happening. It’ll serve you well in the long run.

Why won’t you answer this question? Who was your preferred dem candidate for the primary that never happened because Brandon and his deep state foisted Kamala upon us in the biggest political scam of all time?

What’s a load of garbage is that you pretend to be upset about all of this. You’re not, because it’s always a joke and it’s always funny. The truth is you love this crap. You probably can’t wait for Trump’s parade, To make more jokes, because all this is funny. Forget about things like political strategy. That’s just for the stupid people.

i’m just sharing what people think. Demonstrate some memory here. Remember my comments of interacting with a lot of independents in the medical community. I interacted with right before the election.

People who should’ve been afraid of Trump and voted with the Democrats, because their livelihood depends on government funding of healthcare costs

But person after the person, stopped me cold, said both sides are wrong. You can try to explain this away that they’re stupid people, but I think that’s a stupid approach. They are actually incredibly smart people, a lot of them. it shows that you think everything is a joke and you’re not willing to value how to engage the voters. Politics 101. The only way to win back the Senate and by extension the Supreme Court, is to engage voters in the middle to win enough states to be able to confirm court nominees. Without that, Democrats have zero say in the future of the laws in this land

Lerxst1992 · June 14

brianlux said:

Centrist. Interesting word. I guess I don't know what the fuck it means.

Be safe tomorrow all you lovable leftie weirdos.

www.r/centrist.com

since it’s Reddit it bends very much towards the left, but many on here try to be centrist

Halifax2TheMax · June 14

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I suppose I'm a simpleton, but I still can't even really figure out wtf Biden did that was so bad, or why so many Americans think their country was falling apart.... As far as I can tell, the only really serious problem the American people had - before Trump started blowing everything up - was all the rich people hoarding all the money at the expense of everyone else, which is still the case. Now things are a LOT worse than that

To be fair Biden demonstrated a complete lack of cognitive ability. Democrats demonstrated a complete lack of trustworthiness. And Harris could not connect with voters

At the risk of receiving another personal attack I'll give this a try. The following quote is from a Centrist board that I read.

To be clear, I thought the senator getting tackled at the Noem speech yesterday was horrific. That's the topic

But try to read carefully what this Republican is saying. They're not wrong.

Trump has caused many on the left to be more extreme. They (independents) see Democrats as a variation of trumpism.

I have talked many times about my experiences in the fall where I needed to see many folks in the medical community, pt, ot, nurses, etc. people who should be solid Democrats because they rely on the healthcare system for income.

Especially after Trump said he was going to cut 2 trillion from the budget, where a lot of that has to be cut from the healthcare system. I plainly asked many people where is your money going to come from? They just don't care. They cannot resonate with democrats, and the party needs to address this, yet has no idea it's even a problem.

if most Democrats in dc think similar to what we read on this forum, we are screwed. We even got vp's misunderstanding that point on here

But so many are turned off by democrats. "Both sides are the same" I can write a book about it, but it's usually ignored by the left, like it is on here. Ignore at your pleasure

The "crime against humanity" part sounds like he's quoting Hal.
...

"He interrupted at a point he was not supposed to
He was asked to stop and sit down
The fbi agents may not know he's a senator

I have no issue with the reaction by the fbi

The left acting like how he was treated is a crime against humanity is why they keep losing elections"

What a load of garbage. A repub says it so it must be true?

Well, just wait until all your healthcare sources of information are either unemployed or forced to see double the patient load with sicker patients without the ability to pay. That’ll show those Dems!

Keep minimizing what is happening. It’ll serve you well in the long run.

Why won’t you answer this question? Who was your preferred dem candidate for the primary that never happened because Brandon and his deep state foisted Kamala upon us in the biggest political scam of all time?

What’s a load of garbage is that you pretend to be upset about all of this. You’re not, because it’s always a joke and it’s always funny. The truth is you love this crap. You probably can’t wait for Trump’s parade, To make more jokes, because all this is funny. Forget about things like political strategy. That’s just for the stupid people.

i’m just sharing what people think. Demonstrate some memory here. Remember my comments of interacting with a lot of independents in the medical community. I interacted with right before the election.

People who should’ve been afraid of Trump and voted with the Democrats, because their livelihood depends on government funding of healthcare costs

But person after the person, stopped me cold, said both sides are wrong. You can try to explain this away that they’re stupid people, but I think that’s a stupid approach. They are actually incredibly smart people, a lot of them. it shows that you think everything is a joke and you’re not willing to value how to engage the voters. Politics 101. The only way to win back the Senate and by extension the Supreme Court, is to engage voters in the middle to win enough states to be able to confirm court nominees. Without that, Democrats have zero say in the future of the laws in this land

Stupid won. Go back and ask those “smart” people how they’re feeling about their vote. I dare you.

Why won’t you answer the question of who your preferred dem primary candidate was? You sound like a bitter Berniebro who voted COOTWH out of spite and where the DEI touched you. Own it.

Gern Blansten · June 14

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

trump's claim about biden's alleged use of autopen, something all presidents use, is "brilliant"? That's a low fucking bar for brilliant.

the amount of times the same poster claims trump is brilliant one week and a complete fucking moron the next is next level insanity.

Mr. Strawman, Do you know how to read English, because you clearly did not understand the point?

It's obvious biden was not of sound mind and the example Trump is using is Biden never had such a sloppy policy on the border in his entire career.

Not your misinterpretation that any president would use the auto pen. The pen is imagery.. But these words are wasted on those who lack the ability to think. Must be a benefit of socialism, that it's not required up there

Probably why you never quote. Plausible deniability.

It's actually obvious that Biden was of sound mind.

It's still obvious

Democrats

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