They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
Advocating for due process is extreme?
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
The majority of the country decided advocating for foreigners here improperly is extreme.
and you have no idea how long DOJ was working on this indictment with a grand jury.. They could have gone to Roberts a month ago to tell the court they had evidence of significant crimes and were working with a grand jury. Since it ended May 21, Probably over a month.
its only your extremism that assumes all of the unknowns somehow support what you want to be true. That fact above proves how you think about this case is false. We did not have a significant fact available to us for about half of the time he was held in prison.
The country also once thought that abolition was extreme. So was interracial marriage. And women's suffrage. And civil rights. So you'll excuse me if I don't give a fuck about what a plurality (not a majority) voted for. That doesn't change my moral compass.
They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
Advocating for due process is extreme?
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
The majority of the country decided advocating for foreigners here improperly is extreme.
and you have no idea how long DOJ was working on this indictment with a grand jury.. They could have gone to Roberts a month ago to tell the court they had evidence of significant crimes and were working with a grand jury. Since it ended May 21, Probably over a month.
its only your extremism that assumes all of the unknowns somehow support what you want to be true. That fact above proves how you think about this case is false. We did not have a significant fact available to us for about half of the time he was held in prison.
Got it. You think advocating for constitutionally protected rights is extremism.
They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
Advocating for due process is extreme?
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
The majority of the country decided advocating for foreigners here improperly is extreme.
and you have no idea how long DOJ was working on this indictment with a grand jury.. They could have gone to Roberts a month ago to tell the court they had evidence of significant crimes and were working with a grand jury. Since it ended May 21, Probably over a month.
its only your extremism that assumes all of the unknowns somehow support what you want to be true. That fact above proves how you think about this case is false. We did not have a significant fact available to us for about half of the time he was held in prison.
Got it. You think advocating for constitutionally protected rights is extremism.
You have more worms in your brain than RFKJR.
They’ve been facilitating Garcia‘s return for well over a month. Obviously that fact was not known to the public.I’m not sure what the hell is going on in this forum
They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
Advocating for due process is extreme?
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
The majority of the country decided advocating for foreigners here improperly is extreme.
and you have no idea how long DOJ was working on this indictment with a grand jury.. They could have gone to Roberts a month ago to tell the court they had evidence of significant crimes and were working with a grand jury. Since it ended May 21, Probably over a month.
its only your extremism that assumes all of the unknowns somehow support what you want to be true. That fact above proves how you think about this case is false. We did not have a significant fact available to us for about half of the time he was held in prison.
Got it. You think advocating for constitutionally protected rights is extremism.
You have more worms in your brain than RFKJR.
They’ve been facilitating Garcia‘s return for well over a month. Obviously that fact was not known to the public.I’m not sure what the hell is going on in this forum
It took 24 hours to deport him but a month to facilitate his return. Sure.
They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
Advocating for due process is extreme?
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
The majority of the country decided advocating for foreigners here improperly is extreme.
and you have no idea how long DOJ was working on this indictment with a grand jury.. They could have gone to Roberts a month ago to tell the court they had evidence of significant crimes and were working with a grand jury. Since it ended May 21, Probably over a month.
its only your extremism that assumes all of the unknowns somehow support what you want to be true. That fact above proves how you think about this case is false. We did not have a significant fact available to us for about half of the time he was held in prison.
It’s been a beautiful journey these past few months. There were times that it was touch and go, but people never wavered and got through it. And here we are. Tonight. Congrats!
I have absolutely no confidence that Pam Bondage, Ca$h Patel, Herr Miller and COOTWH are acting in good faith and that this isn’t an “oh shit” we need to come up with something situation.
If I’m an ACLU defense attorney, I’m requesting all White House communications with the FBI, the AG’s office and TBI and TSP. I’m also requesting all communications between Washington and El Salvador embassy staff. Subpoenas and depositions all around, as well as requesting access to all MS13 gang members and CIs. They were caught in violation of the constitution and are now making shit up. A “crime” from 2016 being suddenly prosecuted now in the US should be the red flag.
Straight up Nazi tactics. I look forward to reading the grand jury’s findings and the indictment.
They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
Advocating for due process is extreme?
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
The majority of the country decided advocating for foreigners here improperly is extreme.
and you have no idea how long DOJ was working on this indictment with a grand jury.. They could have gone to Roberts a month ago to tell the court they had evidence of significant crimes and were working with a grand jury. Since it ended May 21, Probably over a month.
its only your extremism that assumes all of the unknowns somehow support what you want to be true. That fact above proves how you think about this case is false. We did not have a significant fact available to us for about half of the time he was held in prison.
We did not have a significant fact provided to us by all of the very best people in trumps totally unbiased DOJ. lol. You do have a red hat.
It’s been a beautiful journey these past few months. There were times that it was touch and go, but people never wavered and got through it. And here we are. Tonight. Congrats!
I predicted this a year ago in the Middle East thread. I’m psychic. Maybe RFK will hire me.
Yup, we were deceived and snookered by COOTWH. Brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy. From Letter From An American:
Today, after months of maintaining it could not bring back Maryland man Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was wrongfully rendered to the notorious CECOT terrorist prison in El Salvador, the Trump administration returned him to the U.S. A grand jury in Tennessee has charged Abrego Garcia with participating in a ten-year conspiracy to carry undocumented migrants from Texas to other parts of the country. The indictment alleges Abrego Garcia participated in more than 100 trips that moved children as well as members of the MS-13 Salvadoran gang.
The indictment has issues. Abrego Garcia is the only person named in the “conspiracy,” and the investigation into it began only in April, after the courts ordered the administration to bring Abrego Garcia back to the U.S. The indictment is based on a 2022 incident in which Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding with eight passengers in his vehicle. He told police they were construction workers and was neither ticketed nor charged. While the indictment alleges that Abrego Garcia lied to the officer by not revealing he was coming from Texas, the referral report says he told the officer he was coming from Houston, Texas.
Phil Williams of NewsChannel 5 in Nashville, Tennessee, noted that the chief of the criminal division for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Nashville, Ben Schrader, resigned on May 21, saying: “It has been an incredible privilege to serve as a prosecutor with the Department of Justice, where the only job description I’ve ever known is to do the right thing, in the right way, for the right reasons.” Williams notes that May 21 is the same day as Abrego Garcia’s indictment.
ABC News reported that Schrader resigned out of “concerns that the case was being pursued for political reasons.”
Welcome to the police state. Buh, buh, buh, Brandon and the dems deceived us!
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They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
He was indicted based on the testimony of someone in jail in Alabama or something. He hasn’t been convicted of anything. The tragedy isn’t that he is or isn’t deported, it’s that he was jailed in a third world country without due process which he is entitled to under US immigration law. And subsequently the DOJ refused to honor the SCOTUS order until today, after he is indicted. Get a clue. Your red hat is eating your brain cells. It makes you stupid.
And this investigation into the charges just started a month ago... Pretty obvious why
Garcia has grounds for a civil rights suit doesn't he?
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They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
Advocating for due process is extreme?
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
The majority of the country decided advocating for foreigners here improperly is extreme.
and you have no idea how long DOJ was working on this indictment with a grand jury.. They could have gone to Roberts a month ago to tell the court they had evidence of significant crimes and were working with a grand jury. Since it ended May 21, Probably over a month.
its only your extremism that assumes all of the unknowns somehow support what you want to be true. That fact above proves how you think about this case is false. We did not have a significant fact available to us for about half of the time he was held in prison.
I hope you're properly warmed up before doing these mental gymnastic routines.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018) The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
Advocating for due process is extreme?
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
The majority of the country decided advocating for foreigners here improperly is extreme.
and you have no idea how long DOJ was working on this indictment with a grand jury.. They could have gone to Roberts a month ago to tell the court they had evidence of significant crimes and were working with a grand jury. Since it ended May 21, Probably over a month.
its only your extremism that assumes all of the unknowns somehow support what you want to be true. That fact above proves how you think about this case is false. We did not have a significant fact available to us for about half of the time he was held in prison.
Got it. You think advocating for constitutionally protected rights is extremism.
You have more worms in your brain than RFKJR.
They’ve been facilitating Garcia‘s return for well over a month. Obviously that fact was not known to the public.I’m not sure what the hell is going on in this forum
It took 24 hours to deport him but a month to facilitate his return. Sure.
Grand jury concluded May 21. Get a grip on reality dude
They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.
Like, how do you combat that?
By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?
More from Silver….
“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last weekthat found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles.
You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what do you propose Democrats do? Going forward? You’ve stated your case on how they screwed the election up you keep harping everything that happened! When will you move forward
It’s hysterical that this forum will go on and on for years for the obnoxious shit that Trump does. But when Democrats screw up, lie to us, we want to move on within six months? The absurdity around here is stunning
unless you know the who, what where when why …we were railroaded by Biden‘s team (or was dem leadership involved?) I’m not sure why anyone would be thinking of moving on right now
This is a joke right? Trump fucks something up every single day. We don't have time to stew on what happened six months ago. How many posts about Abrego-Garcia do you see here? That poor man is in a third world country jail AFTER the Supreme Court ordered him released. Yet he still rots and the DOJ does nothing to get him out. See anyone stewing about that? No, because Trump is on to some other travesty. But you are laser focused on something that happened almost a year ago now, and wouldn't even be a blip on the Trump continuum of atrocities. I'm sorry, your posts are absurd and this is why I think you are full MAGA, just refusing to admit it.
Plenty.
amazing you’ve joined the extreme. Time to start yelling at windmills, or grand juries. Perfect timing with your post…
Kilmar Abrego Garcia back in US to face charges of helping traffic 'thousands' of migrants
Advocating for due process is extreme?
What the actual fuck is wrong with you?
The majority of the country decided advocating for foreigners here improperly is extreme.
and you have no idea how long DOJ was working on this indictment with a grand jury.. They could have gone to Roberts a month ago to tell the court they had evidence of significant crimes and were working with a grand jury. Since it ended May 21, Probably over a month.
its only your extremism that assumes all of the unknowns somehow support what you want to be true. That fact above proves how you think about this case is false. We did not have a significant fact available to us for about half of the time he was held in prison.
Got it. You think advocating for constitutionally protected rights is extremism.
You have more worms in your brain than RFKJR.
They’ve been facilitating Garcia‘s return for well over a month. Obviously that fact was not known to the public.I’m not sure what the hell is going on in this forum
It took 24 hours to deport him but a month to facilitate his return. Sure.
Grand jury concluded May 21. Get a grip on reality dude
The indictment is NOT what should have triggered his return. The SCOTUS ordered him returned to the US on April 10th. Are you really defending the ignoring the court order? This is why everyone here believes you are full MAGA. Your arguments are no longer tethered to reality, the most obvious sign.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
when is anything good for democrats?
harris only lost by 1% of the vote. gop does not have a mandate no matter how you try to spin it.
when is anything good for democrats?
everything is always their fault, or they always look stupid for some reason.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
If I’m an ACLU defense attorney, I’m requesting all White House communications with the FBI, the AG’s office and TBI and TSP. I’m also requesting all communications between Washington and El Salvador embassy staff. Subpoenas and depositions all around, as well as requesting access to all MS13 gang members and CIs. They were caught in violation of the constitution and are now making shit up. A “crime” from 2016 being suddenly prosecuted now in the US should be the red flag.
Straight up Nazi tactics. I look forward to reading the grand jury’s findings and the indictment.
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Today, after months of maintaining it could not bring back Maryland man Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was wrongfully rendered to the notorious CECOT terrorist prison in El Salvador, the Trump administration returned him to the U.S. A grand jury in Tennessee has charged Abrego Garcia with participating in a ten-year conspiracy to carry undocumented migrants from Texas to other parts of the country. The indictment alleges Abrego Garcia participated in more than 100 trips that moved children as well as members of the MS-13 Salvadoran gang.
The indictment has issues. Abrego Garcia is the only person named in the “conspiracy,” and the investigation into it began only in April, after the courts ordered the administration to bring Abrego Garcia back to the U.S. The indictment is based on a 2022 incident in which Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding with eight passengers in his vehicle. He told police they were construction workers and was neither ticketed nor charged. While the indictment alleges that Abrego Garcia lied to the officer by not revealing he was coming from Texas, the referral report says he told the officer he was coming from Houston, Texas.
Phil Williams of NewsChannel 5 in Nashville, Tennessee, noted that the chief of the criminal division for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Nashville, Ben Schrader, resigned on May 21, saying: “It has been an incredible privilege to serve as a prosecutor with the Department of Justice, where the only job description I’ve ever known is to do the right thing, in the right way, for the right reasons.” Williams notes that May 21 is the same day as Abrego Garcia’s indictment.
ABC News reported that Schrader resigned out of “concerns that the case was being pursued for political reasons.”
Welcome to the police state. Buh, buh, buh, Brandon and the dems deceived us!
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Garcia has grounds for a civil rights suit doesn't he?
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Correction, AOC: Kilmar is all of Dems, only. No one else.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14