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I think you glossed over the majority of what people have concerns about with the current GA line situation. Namely that there is a unified group of people that work together to ensure their group gets the best spots in GA and some of them have exhibited aggressive behavior towards outsiders. And not to mention the unwritten rules about holding spots for people and allowing people to leave the line to get merch or disappear for long periods.Chrrie said:
That is honestly how I feel commenting in this thread because most people clearly have an agenda that I could never introduce any competitive thought into. But the quote was literally directed to the front row haha. I’m not saying there aren’t thousands of people in the building who go to many shows, but we’re at 42 pages of “the band is clearly sick of seeing the same people up front” and idk how it can be any more clear that that’s not the case based on what he said two weeks ago (and Ohana last year for that matter).pjl44 said:
Please do not introduce reason to the parasocial relationshippjhawks said:
There are many people not on the rail who have seen a lot of shows including myself. I think his comments were as much about us as the rail hoardersChrrie said:Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:
”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other. Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”I think if anyone has an agenda here it’s the people who are members of the traveling GA clique and benefit from their behavior - because keeping the current system is in their own best interest. In contrast, many here have countered that a random wristband system would make it fair for every fan.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20 -
Definite doth protest much too much vibe from the GA crowd, but also some piling on. I can see both sides of it.
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You have too much invested in insisting that the rest of us understand that the comments were made to you and your friends specificallyChrrie said:
That is honestly how I feel commenting in this thread because most people clearly have an agenda that I could never introduce any competitive thought into. But the quote was literally directed to the front row haha. I’m not saying there aren’t thousands of people in the building who go to many shows, but we’re at 42 pages of “the band is clearly sick of seeing the same people up front” and idk how it can be any more clear that that’s not the case based on what he said two weeks ago (and Ohana last year for that matter).pjl44 said:
Please do not introduce reason to the parasocial relationshippjhawks said:
There are many people not on the rail who have seen a lot of shows including myself. I think his comments were as much about us as the rail hoardersChrrie said:Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:
”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other. Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”0 -
That is simply what life is like beyond the rail and why I hate GA.Chrrie said:Just went to my first DMB show of the summer this week and again have been reminded how much I hate the pit lottery. I mean unless you like people shuffling in and out all night depending on how popular the current song is, saving enough space for their groups of friends to then have loud conversations throughout the entire show, the streamers from the Couch Tour Facebook group who hold their phones up above their head all night, someone else even FaceTimed their friend at home who didn’t mute themself and would occasionally scream, beer runs, bathroom runs, constantly switching spaces with or fitting in friends who materialize randomly, blank stares and boredom when deeper cuts or new songs are played, and my personal favorite: taking group selfies during the show. I can go on.It’s a different crowd and vibe when all you have to do is show up at doors, I’ve watched it happen over the past few years with DMB and it’ll just create different problems to complain about.
To be required to spend multiple days of your life sleeping on a sidewalk and dealing with the politics to get out of it sucks.
My 10C seats are in the rafters now because of GA.
Im 5'5". I would love to be in the rail utopia you describe... or even in the seated "wings" my 10c number used to dependably get. I would even put in extra effort for the rail experience... however, I just cannot take multiple days away from my kids, responsibilities and life. And I am sure if people like me decided to show up 2 days early, then the requirement would become 2.5 or 3 days.Post edited by MayDay10 on0 -
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You have too much invested in insisting that the rest of us understand that the comments were made to you and your friends specificallyChrrie said:
That is honestly how I feel commenting in this thread because most people clearly have an agenda that I could never introduce any competitive thought into. But the quote was literally directed to the front row haha. I’m not saying there aren’t thousands of people in the building who go to many shows, but we’re at 42 pages of “the band is clearly sick of seeing the same people up front” and idk how it can be any more clear that that’s not the case based on what he said two weeks ago (and Ohana last year for that matter).pjl44 said:
Please do not introduce reason to the parasocial relationshippjhawks said:
There are many people not on the rail who have seen a lot of shows including myself. I think his comments were as much about us as the rail hoardersChrrie said:Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:
”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other. Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”0 -
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They could mean anyone anywhere in the Areana/Stadium because it's just not the front row that there are friendships.GlowGirl said:
I loved when he said that. I was tearing up a bit. And he was right - we do miss them and each other!!Chrrie said:Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:
”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other. Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”0 -
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I never said he didn't.aus_suz said:
They could mean anyone anywhere in the Areana/Stadium because it's just not the front row that there are friendships.GlowGirl said:
I loved when he said that. I was tearing up a bit. And he was right - we do miss them and each other!!Chrrie said:Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:
”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other. Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”
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Your seats are in the rafters because of PJ premium tickets and the fact that the ten club doesn’t get all of the best seats to allot to members in the lottery. You can get side rail or at least second row if you just came early the day of the show, try it next tour— plenty of new faces at this year’s shows.MayDay10 said:
That is simply what life is like beyond the rail and why I hate GA.Chrrie said:Just went to my first DMB show of the summer this week and again have been reminded how much I hate the pit lottery. I mean unless you like people shuffling in and out all night depending on how popular the current song is, saving enough space for their groups of friends to then have loud conversations throughout the entire show, the streamers from the Couch Tour Facebook group who hold their phones up above their head all night, someone else even FaceTimed their friend at home who didn’t mute themself and would occasionally scream, beer runs, bathroom runs, constantly switching spaces with or fitting in friends who materialize randomly, blank stares and boredom when deeper cuts or new songs are played, and my personal favorite: taking group selfies during the show. I can go on.It’s a different crowd and vibe when all you have to do is show up at doors, I’ve watched it happen over the past few years with DMB and it’ll just create different problems to complain about.
To be required to spend multiple days of your life sleeping on a sidewalk and dealing with the politics to get out of it sucks.
My 10C seats are in the rafters now because of GA.
Im 5'5". I would love to be in the rail utopia you describe... or even in the seated "wings" my 10c number used to dependably get. I would even put in extra effort for the rail experience... however, I just cannot take multiple days away from my kids, responsibilities and life. And I am sure if people like me decided to show up 2 days early, then the requirement would become 2.5 or 3 days.0 -
What happened was all more senior members who would normally get good floor areas and close-wings were bumped out of the floor into the wings. These people still have great spots and often just want and accept their seats.Chrrie said:
Your seats are in the rafters because of PJ premium tickets and the fact that the ten club doesn’t get all of the best seats to allot to members in the lottery. You can get side rail or at least second row if you just came early the day of the show, try it next tour— plenty of new faces at this year’s shows.MayDay10 said:
That is simply what life is like beyond the rail and why I hate GA.Chrrie said:Just went to my first DMB show of the summer this week and again have been reminded how much I hate the pit lottery. I mean unless you like people shuffling in and out all night depending on how popular the current song is, saving enough space for their groups of friends to then have loud conversations throughout the entire show, the streamers from the Couch Tour Facebook group who hold their phones up above their head all night, someone else even FaceTimed their friend at home who didn’t mute themself and would occasionally scream, beer runs, bathroom runs, constantly switching spaces with or fitting in friends who materialize randomly, blank stares and boredom when deeper cuts or new songs are played, and my personal favorite: taking group selfies during the show. I can go on.It’s a different crowd and vibe when all you have to do is show up at doors, I’ve watched it happen over the past few years with DMB and it’ll just create different problems to complain about.
To be required to spend multiple days of your life sleeping on a sidewalk and dealing with the politics to get out of it sucks.
My 10C seats are in the rafters now because of GA.
Im 5'5". I would love to be in the rail utopia you describe... or even in the seated "wings" my 10c number used to dependably get. I would even put in extra effort for the rail experience... however, I just cannot take multiple days away from my kids, responsibilities and life. And I am sure if people like me decided to show up 2 days early, then the requirement would become 2.5 or 3 days.
Many people who went/go for GA are people with higher numbers and also new and 'dupe' accounts probably nearing 1,000,000.
And yeah, add in the premium ticket stuff.
My low to mid membership number was/is probably the worst place to be.
I actually stopped going to shows around 2018. Part of it is kids and responsibility. Part of it was my wife had beer spilled on her and groped twice at Wrigley GA. I'm too old to jockey around people and deal with all that. Maybe I would show up in the morning. I guess it depends on time and place.0 -
That Wrigley experience sounds awful, I'm sorry.MayDay10 said:
What happened was all more senior members who would normally get good floor areas and close-wings were bumped out of the floor into the wings. These people still have great spots and often just want and accept their seats.Chrrie said:
Your seats are in the rafters because of PJ premium tickets and the fact that the ten club doesn’t get all of the best seats to allot to members in the lottery. You can get side rail or at least second row if you just came early the day of the show, try it next tour— plenty of new faces at this year’s shows.MayDay10 said:
That is simply what life is like beyond the rail and why I hate GA.Chrrie said:Just went to my first DMB show of the summer this week and again have been reminded how much I hate the pit lottery. I mean unless you like people shuffling in and out all night depending on how popular the current song is, saving enough space for their groups of friends to then have loud conversations throughout the entire show, the streamers from the Couch Tour Facebook group who hold their phones up above their head all night, someone else even FaceTimed their friend at home who didn’t mute themself and would occasionally scream, beer runs, bathroom runs, constantly switching spaces with or fitting in friends who materialize randomly, blank stares and boredom when deeper cuts or new songs are played, and my personal favorite: taking group selfies during the show. I can go on.It’s a different crowd and vibe when all you have to do is show up at doors, I’ve watched it happen over the past few years with DMB and it’ll just create different problems to complain about.
To be required to spend multiple days of your life sleeping on a sidewalk and dealing with the politics to get out of it sucks.
My 10C seats are in the rafters now because of GA.
Im 5'5". I would love to be in the rail utopia you describe... or even in the seated "wings" my 10c number used to dependably get. I would even put in extra effort for the rail experience... however, I just cannot take multiple days away from my kids, responsibilities and life. And I am sure if people like me decided to show up 2 days early, then the requirement would become 2.5 or 3 days.
Many people who went/go for GA are people with higher numbers and also new and 'dupe' accounts probably nearing 1,000,000.
And yeah, add in the premium ticket stuff.
My low to mid membership number was/is probably the worst place to be.
I actually stopped going to shows around 2018. Part of it is kids and responsibility. Part of it was my wife had beer spilled on her and groped twice at Wrigley GA. I'm too old to jockey around people and deal with all that. Maybe I would show up in the morning. I guess it depends on time and place.
I will say though, if you've kept your membership up since '04, you're mistaken as to the quality of the seats you would get if you won the lottery; you've been here longer than me, and between St Paul in '23 and Nashville this year, I've landed around center ice in the lower bowl both times.
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GA folks can do their thing. You can get close without the nonsense of lining up. What sucks is that TM is eliminating the best reserved seats for 10C members and pushing us further back to sell premium seats. The days of a full 10C sections in the 100s next to the stage seem to be over. Member since 98.0
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This ^Get_Right said:GA folks can do their thing. You can get close without the nonsense of lining up. What sucks is that TM is eliminating the best reserved seats for 10C members and pushing us further back to sell premium seats. The days of a full 10C sections in the 100s next to the stage seem to be over. Member since 98.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
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I think it would be quite refreshing to come here and listen to some "new folks" discuss how they won the "GA line lottery" and were able to get rail.
Giving everyone who has GA seats an opportunity to get rail would be fantastic.
And nobody would have to sleep on the streets for 36 hours.Take me piece by piece.....
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Please, stop making sense.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:I think it would be quite refreshing to come here and listen to some "new folks" discuss how they won the "GA line lottery" and were able to get rail.
Giving everyone who has GA seats an opportunity to get rail would be fantastic.
And nobody would have to sleep on the streets for 36 hours.
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