Canadian Politics Redux

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,466
    Not watching TV but a friend told me CBC called it for the Liberals.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,466
    Zod said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    dignin said:
    Advance is where it's at, no lines and a breeze.

    Not around me. Lines were insane at advanced voting! Like 2+ hour lineups in a lot of ridings!
    Wow, that sucks. I voted on a Sunday afternoon, in and out in less than 5 mins. There was a lineup on the Friday morning, so I waited.

    I voted on Easter Monday in the morning.  It was really short.  like in and out in less than 10 minutes. Maybe 5 minutes?   My neighbors voted on day 1 and said it was pretty long.   It's generally good to not do things at the beginning or the end of a thing :)
    100%
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,936
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,768
    From Harper’s Index:

    Percentage of Americans who consider Canada a U.S. ally: 82May 2025 • Source: YouGov (NYC)
    Percentage of Canadians who consider the United States a Canadian ally: 33May 2025 • Source: YouGov (NYC)
    Portion of Americans who say that the United States should “take control of” Canada: 1/4May 2025 • Source: YouGov (NYC)
    Portion of Canadians who say that California, Oregon, and Washington should “become part of” Canada: 1/3May 2025 • Source: YouGov (NYC)
    Percentage increase this year in sales of the Canadian flag by Flags Unlimited, one of Canada’s largest flag manufacturers: 100May 2025 • Source: Flags Unlimited Corporation (Barrie, Ontario)
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  • hunterh75hunterh75 Posts: 71
    Percentage of Americans who give a fuck about liberal Canadians.....zero
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,768
    hunterh75 said:
    Percentage of Americans who give a fuck about liberal Canadians.....zero
    Source?
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,809
    Not sure how I feel.  Looks like they can get votes to pass stuff with an NDP coalition, but that's exactly what I didn't want.  I wanted the party to pivot a little to right. 

    I suspect this minority government won't last as long as the last one.
  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,888
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,466
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
    I heard 79% voter turnout in Carleton. Probably the highest in the country. Accessibility wasn't an issue.

    They just wanted PP gone.

    The only reason we're not looking at a Conservative majority this morning is because PP himself is deeply unpopular. If almost anyone else was running they would have won probably by a landslide.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,497
    hunterh75 said:
    Percentage of Americans who give a fuck about liberal Canadians.....zero
    I care about all Canadians. They are our closest ally.  What's wrong with you?
  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,888
    It’s going to be interesting to see where this bout of national amnesia lands us. The Trudeau Liberals were essentially reelected, bringing the same policies that have hamstrung our economy and society.

    Now we’ll see if Carney is capable of governing, I’ll just say that I hope he doesn’t fuck up too badly. Because what could go wrong putting a rookie in the nation’s top job?

     I can only trust that the Liberals are sending a huge bouquet to thank Trump for saving their party and keeping them in power.
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,888
    dignin said:
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
    I heard 79% voter turnout in Carleton. Probably the highest in the country. Accessibility wasn't an issue.

    They just wanted PP gone.

    The only reason we're not looking at a Conservative majority this morning is because PP himself is deeply unpopular. If almost anyone else was running they would have won probably by a landslide.
    I don’t think you read the article. My point has nothing to do with partisan politics.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,888
    dignin said:
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
    I heard 79% voter turnout in Carleton. Probably the highest in the country. Accessibility wasn't an issue.

    They just wanted PP gone.

    The only reason we're not looking at a Conservative majority this morning is because PP himself is deeply unpopular. If almost anyone else was running they would have won probably by a landslide.
     I think if Harris had been President then we would have seen a different result as you say.

    But everyone got trolled by Trump and voted based on external fear instead of domestic issues.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,293
    dignin said:
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
    I heard 79% voter turnout in Carleton. Probably the highest in the country. Accessibility wasn't an issue.

    They just wanted PP gone.

    The only reason we're not looking at a Conservative majority this morning is because PP himself is deeply unpopular. If almost anyone else was running they would have won probably by a landslide.
     I think if Harris had been President then we would have seen a different result as you say.

    But everyone got trolled by Trump and voted based on external fear instead of domestic issues.
    That may be the case - but despite what Trump would like, the world is one system, and the concepts of domestic and international are quite intertwined these days. Look at the label on any of your clothes. Check where your electronics are made. Look at where your medications were researched and developed. Every issue is a domestic one - especially a lunatic sharing a land border making repeated statements about taking over Canada, and especially a lunatic starting trade wars, consequences be damned, and especially a lunatic who declares that the strategy is to create uncertainty (aka chaos). I would like to know what domestic issues are more important than Canadians' abilities to pay bills, keep roofs over our heads, and maintain our quality of life - than what Trump's impact has been on our economy (so far). 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,466
    dignin said:
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
    I heard 79% voter turnout in Carleton. Probably the highest in the country. Accessibility wasn't an issue.

    They just wanted PP gone.

    The only reason we're not looking at a Conservative majority this morning is because PP himself is deeply unpopular. If almost anyone else was running they would have won probably by a landslide.
    I don’t think you read the article. My point has nothing to do with partisan politics.
    Did you read the comment you responded to?
  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,888
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
    I heard 79% voter turnout in Carleton. Probably the highest in the country. Accessibility wasn't an issue.

    They just wanted PP gone.

    The only reason we're not looking at a Conservative majority this morning is because PP himself is deeply unpopular. If almost anyone else was running they would have won probably by a landslide.
    I don’t think you read the article. My point has nothing to do with partisan politics.
    Did you read the comment you responded to?
    You say accessibility wasn’t an issue but the whole point of the article is how the Longest Ballot protest caused issues and anxiety for a man with multiple disabilities. That’s an accessibility issue as far as I can tell. Not the intent of the protesters but responsibility ultimately lies with them.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,936
    hunterh75 said:
    Percentage of Americans who give a fuck about liberal Canadians.....zero
    Number of americans who claim they don't give a fuck, yet took the time to comment: 1
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,936
    "trolled by trump". haha. both parties made trump a major issue, as they should have. biggest political power on the planet is wreaking economic havoc all over the place and causing chaos at every turn. that's not trolling. People losing thousands in life savings and profits in business is not "trolling". Why do you think both major parties increased their vote share and the greens and oranges lost big time? because it's a big issue. if you think trump's chaos isn't related to domestic issues, you have your head in the sand. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,936
    dignin said:
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
    I heard 79% voter turnout in Carleton. Probably the highest in the country. Accessibility wasn't an issue.

    They just wanted PP gone.

    The only reason we're not looking at a Conservative majority this morning is because PP himself is deeply unpopular. If almost anyone else was running they would have won probably by a landslide.
    I don’t think you read the article. My point has nothing to do with partisan politics.
    your point is one person had trouble voting because of long lines (a problem all over the country) and the long ballot causing issues for him and his mother. While I sympathize with him, that's not why pp lost. He lost cuz he's a lying asshole. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,464
    Percentage of Canadians whose vote was impacted by their negative feelings towards Trump? Certainly not zero. Don't say Trump doesn't have coattails...he very well have delivered that victory yesterday.
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,888
    dignin said:
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
    I heard 79% voter turnout in Carleton. Probably the highest in the country. Accessibility wasn't an issue.

    They just wanted PP gone.

    The only reason we're not looking at a Conservative majority this morning is because PP himself is deeply unpopular. If almost anyone else was running they would have won probably by a landslide.
    I don’t think you read the article. My point has nothing to do with partisan politics.
    your point is one person had trouble voting because of long lines (a problem all over the country) and the long ballot causing issues for him and his mother. While I sympathize with him, that's not why pp lost. He lost cuz he's a lying asshole. 
    I’m glad you have some sympathy for the man in the article, why the need to gloat?

    I made other posts you can gloat over, I don’t know why this article is being politicized when it had nothing to do with the parties and should focus on Elections Canada if anything.

    The Longest Ballot people screwed this man. Maybe they need to reassess their approach.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,466

    Poilievre vows to stay on as party leader for reasons of being otherwise unemployable


    https://www.thebeaverton.com/2025/04/poilievre-vows-to-stay-on-as-party-leader-for-reasons-of-being-otherwise-unemployable/
  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,888
    I can only assume that in the interests of fairness the Longest Ballot protest will exclusively target Carney’s riding in the next election, otherwise they’ve chosen a side and are yet another partisan organization.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,466
    edited 5:15PM
    I can only assume that in the interests of fairness the Longest Ballot protest will exclusively target Carney’s riding in the next election, otherwise they’ve chosen a side and are yet another partisan organization.
    Is this the weird thing the conservative universe is focusing on today?
    Post edited by dignin at
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,317
    OnWis97 said:
    Percentage of Canadians whose vote was impacted by their negative feelings towards Trump? Certainly not zero. Don't say Trump doesn't have coattails...he very well have delivered that victory yesterday.

    The impact of his insane policies certainly did. That isn't a "riding his coattails" kind of thing. Canadians obviously feel that Carney is the best candidate to deal with the chaos Trump is causing in the economy right now. Others also felt that PP was too much like Trump in some ways, and are wary of Canada moving in that direction.
    Top of my mind right now is that we definitely became more like America in one way yesterday: We basically became a two-party nation just like the US. That sucks. I hope it's reversible at some point. Clearly all the NDPers voted Liberal because they think Carney can best deal with the global economic shake up caused by the doofus.
    This all makes a lot of sense to me... I'm not really understanding how it feels like some are trying to kind of disenfranchise all those voters who made such decisions, as though they were swindled into it somehow. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,936
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,936
    we aren't a two party system. The NDP and Greens will be back (the latter, less so). Cons were defeated within an inch of their lives in pretty recent history, and people were saying they were done. Well, the clearly aren't done. Their leader lost his seat but the party still got a higher percentage of the vote than Harper did when he won. So they'll be fine. And I think people will move back to their "own" parties when the buffoon to the south is gone or tamed. The Bloq even lost significantly last night and that exit polling showed many were "lending" their votes to the other two majors in light of what's going on. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,317
    Ha. I keep forgetting about the Bloc. I think it's an absolute travesty that they are a so-called federal party.
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,888
    dignin said:
    I can only assume that in the interests of fairness the Longest Ballot protest will exclusively target Carney’s riding in the next election, otherwise they’ve chosen a side and are yet another partisan organization.
    Is this the weird thing the conservative universe is focusing on today?
    I refrained from posting the story yesterday but apparently I should’ve so it wouldn’t be blown off as sour grapes.

    THIS STORY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PARTIES FOR FUCK’S SAKES.
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,818
    dignin said:
    PP lost his own seat. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/long-ballot-lines-carleton-accessibility

    haha I guess.
    I heard 79% voter turnout in Carleton. Probably the highest in the country. Accessibility wasn't an issue.

    They just wanted PP gone.

    The only reason we're not looking at a Conservative majority this morning is because PP himself is deeply unpopular. If almost anyone else was running they would have won probably by a landslide.
    If Jean Charest was the leader of the Conservative Party... I would have been Team Charest all day to change from Liberals. That's based on my belief that Charest would have ran a mature campaign as opposed to the circus fest Pierre was counting on. 

    Pierre losing his riding and popularity should come as ZERO surprise. 

    In particular... his riding is a public sector suburb. Much of what he was saying to boost his popularity to voters in Alberta for example were pissing people off in his own riding. Not to mention his coziness with the Convoy. To really "Bring it Home" I'm surprised he didn't declare himself a die-hard Maple Leafs fan while he was at it. 

    Once again... what ought to have been a remarkably easy Conservative landslide victory turned into them shooting themselves in the foot.... again. Mistake after mistake after mistake. I'm confident I hit on many of these in pages past lol. 

    Recently... from Pierre taking a report WAY out of context suggesting that Canadians will need to forage for food in a few years... to Andrew Scheer's inexplicably awkward pub commercial where he (creepily in my opinion) suggested voting Liberal meant you would be so badly sinking in debt that you would of course become a meth addict to the fairly obvious Trump comparisons.  

    These tactics worked in America. Thankfully, they did not work in Canada and I hope they never do. 

    I hope Carney's Liberals do a much better job moving forward. And for the Conservatives... time to grow the fuck up. 




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