I have purchased the Manchester bootleg but when I play it on Apple Music, Alive is greyed out saying unavailable in my country region (UK) ? How do I fix this?
London 02 18/09/2009 London Hyde Park 25/06/2010 Arras 03/07/2010 Werchter 04/07/2010 Manchester 21/06/2012 Amsterdam 26/06/2012 Stockholm 07/07/2012 Portland 29/11/2013 Spokane 30/11/2013 Amsterdam 16/06/14 Leeds 08/07/14 London 02 Arena 18/06/2018 London 02 Arena 17/07/2018 London Hyde Park 08/07/2022 London Hyde Park 09/07/2022 Manchester 25/06/2024
The Homepage is buzzing and offers live footage… [watch;]
Their entering of the stage is a must see…🤣
Imagine Bumble B. Boy on stage at Manchester’s Co-op Live Arena - in front of a 20.000+ crowd… at best: the whole whatever even on the big screen. Easily a once in a lifetime spectacle for the band on stage and the (PJ) audience.
FAILED CHILDREN'S ENTERTAINER PUSHES BOUNDARIES WITH A UNIQUE BLEND OF THEATER AND ELECTRIC PUNK ENERGY
Theatrical shows that fall somewhere between a grand rock opera and an average episode of the Teletubbies. Bumble B. Boy does it. This Australian, who resides in Nijmegen, is currently perhaps the most bizarre festival sensation in the Netherlands. This rapidly rising art-punk artist and failed children’s entertainer is pushing boundaries with his unique mix of theater, storytelling, and electric punk energy. He emerged earlier this year as a true live sensation, aweing crowds at Best Kept Secret, Down the Rabbit Hole, and Into the Great Wide Open.
Much noise is being made around the acoustics inside Co-op Live. The vision for Co-op Live was to create the best arena for music ever, and that means audio to match.
“It’s great to be working on a project with a defined and clear goal, to be the world’s best live music venue,” said Olly Creedy, associate director at Vanguardia, sound designer at Co-op Live. There were unique challenges and opportunities on the project. “The main challenges are due to the sheer volume of the space and still maintaining well defined acoustics and clarity,” Creedy said. “It’s far different from a classic music hall or theatre where the early reflections are encouraged. Any useful early reflections are impossible to achieve in a venue this size, where the sound off any of the surrounding surfaces has potential for causing disturbing late reflections. The aim is to provide good aligned direct sound, followed by a smooth dense reverb tail with lack of discrete audible reflections.” Vanguardia carried out detailed computer modeling to accurately determine the acoustics of the space. “Careful attention ensures a good tonal balance across the frequency range and to ensure any late reflections are masked within the reverberation tails,” Creedy said. “The balance of this is critical as minimizing the reverberation time improves the clarity of the sound but can lead to discrete reflections being audible that can be more disturbing than longer reverberation times. We have explored using more diffusive and angled profiles than are typically used on any other arenas, including concertina style side walls and angled walls to the rear. This ensures sound is redirected to exactly where we want it.” Some of Co-op Live’s architectural design elements came in handy while figuring out the sound. The lack of advertising in the bowl, for instance, “meant we could provide acoustic treatment to any areas that were causing reflection issues,” Creedy said. “This included balcony fronts where you would typically have LED ribbon boards to ensure the quality of the sound could be maintained.” They used resonant membrane bass traps to absorb low frequencies without impacting higher frequency absorption. “Typically, in arenas where only broadband absorption is used, there is a fall in reverberation time as the frequency increases,” Creedy said. “This was something we wanted to avoid so we explored areas where we could use bass traps to absorb the lower frequencies whilst maintaining reflective at high frequencies.” As the length of the arena is relatively short compared to other arenas, “It not only improves the visual intimacy but also provides a more intimate acoustic experience, minimizes the physical volume, improves direct sound coverage and reduces the time arrival from late reflections,” Creedy explained. Co-op Live’s permanently installed system is a combination of d&b’s Vi-Series and ALi-Series loudspeakers, with custom rigging hardware. “The standard versions of these loudspeaker systems are a mainstay of technical riders for many of the top touring artists all over the world and were chosen to provide the high performance and production sound quality expected by the audiences, as well as integrating seamlessly into the systems that touring productions will deploy in the venue,” explained Steve Jones, head of education & application support for Europe, the Middle East and Africa at speaker supplier d&b audiotechnik. “The overall system provides the best combination of headroom, coverage and pattern control possible within the wider project scope.” The loudspeakers are driven by the d&b 40D amplifier, which he says provides efficient, powerful signal processing and extended integration, allowing comprehensive control and monitoring. Jones said he found OVG’s music-first approach refreshing, as it “enabled us to collaborate closely with Vanguardia and Diversified to ensure that the sound systems support the requirements of the touring productions.” Noting that touring productions typically have much greater audio requirements than a general multipurpose venue, Jones said Co-op Live’s system was built with that in mind. “The upper section of each of the V-Series have been designed independently from the rest of the arrays to augment touring production,” he said. “A line array’s performance is dependent on the whole shape of the array, so when we design one physical array for two different coverage scenarios it would typically involve quite a large compromise. This is where d&b’s ArrayProcessing technology comes into play to add an extra level of flexible control and performance choices to provide the audience with an optimum audio experience for both performance setups, and to ensure the visiting production can have confidence in integrating into their own mobile system.” by Gideon Gottfried (Venuesnow)
Last performed in 2022, “All Night” and Neil Young’s “Fuckin’ Up” make Manchester’s list. The voices of 20k concert-goers combined with McCready’s godly guitar work support a grateful Ed as he powers through a 23-song set despite a strained voice.
08:00 - Joined the GA queue (about 50-70 people in) - reunited with Rob (London) and Laura (Spain)
Inside the venue - briefly reunited with Stefan (Netherlands)
Managed to secure a spot at the second row together with Rob (Portsmouth) and Chandler (USA)
Aha moment: The stage was at perfect height giving me the impression of an intimate show similar to the 2002 10C shows at the Showbox (at least for the people at the front)
While waiting for the show to begin, I met a lovely Brazilian couple as well as Amy and her mum from Australia
Thank you to everyone who signed my Greek flag!
One of the cute Polish girls in front of me struggled to blow up her inflatable guitar, so she asked me to do it (does that count as a kiss? ). She later got to hear her request: I Got ID.
First highlight of the night: Ten songs in (while Even Flow was playing) I managed to give Eddie my EDUCATION banner which he put on his piano for the rest of the night.
Second highlight of the night: Eddie personally handed me one of his guitar picks towards the end of the concert.
Thank you for making 2024 such a special year for me, PJ!
BEE special add-on. Just thought I should buy the poster zoomed the small shop picture and there it is!
The stripes on the house are bee too.
Four of those small things/pins are unclear.
The wheel-like orange thing could be familiar to someone - what does it stand for? Plus another iron next to the bee ? - unless someone has a better idea.
From what I could find the closest thing to the white/red pin is part of this…
This place drifts to PJ 2024 Manchester Co-op Live Arena - all in one + X
The orange thing/pin on the poster looks like a piece of fruit now. The question about it could be answered. There is a lot of orange in Manchester.
My research lead to a giant Orange Parking area next to the stadium - not good enough. Then pictures of Buses. Manchester Buses were orange - and (online) it looks like all Buses are bee-yellow nowadays.
I walked from the city centre to the venue and back for the Airport Bus. No need to look on Metrolink maps and for stops on location. My first photo in the setlist thread shows the arena. There was a stairway right in front of me down to the public transport - and there must be such orange Metrolink signs. A lot of people arrived this way. I had to wait for a shot without any person in view AND Pearl Jam on the venue wall in combination - the band name shared place and time with some announcements in repeat.
The Official Orange Parking is next to the stadium. The arrow points to the Metroline. The orange dot on the Co-op Live marks where „Pearl Jam“ was visible up on the side of the arena. The black line shows my walking route and ends at the spot from where I shot the photo.
The tricky / baffling thing is the flat iron head on the poster. The electric flat iron wasn‘t invented in Manchester - was my first guess and first researched.
If the Steakhouse owner’s home town would be a different city, his restaurant business would have probably the same name. Double-Coincidence!?: very similar word + same city
End of the Poster-Restaurant trace/confusion. Back to Zero. ———————————— I visited the Manchester
Science and Industry Museum years ago. Lead to this approach: Manchester+Textile+History
Easy find via www
Manchester acquired the nickname "Cottonopolis" during the early 19th century owing to its many textile factories. In the second half of the 1800s, Manchester's reputation as a financial and commercial centre was boosted by the unprecedented number of warehouses erected in the city centre. In 1806 there were just over 1,000 but by 1815 this had almost doubled to 1,819. Manchester was dubbed "warehouse city".
(more than this example are still there)
The packing warehouses: Asia House, India House and Velvet House along Whitworth Street were among the tallest buildings of their time. These dominant buildings were the stately homes of the cotton industry and the backbone of Cottonopolis, providing not just the storage facilities but they displayed the finished goods.
The building on the poster could be a specific warehouse or any typical brick stone building.
unsolved: IF Manchester + Textile + History > Flatiron / Iron is correct for the poster, what’s the “real idea” behind the connection?
Was there an Iron Workforce in old Manchester, working like Robots, and the modern Iron is on the poster because it looks slicker or fits better?
unsolved detail: Is the building on the poster 1:1 to find in Manchester?
poster bought My impression of it was never bad and is improved now I see the iron head mystery even as plus now.
He knows everything.
Just tried the iron + work + old England path. I found three iron in a very long list worldthroughthelens.com
the headline fits perfect
OBSCURE OLD ENGLISH CENSUS OCCUPATIONS
Below is a list of some of the more obscure occupations that you may find on the English Census during your genealogy research. Because many of these jobs are no longer in existance there is a brief description against each one. Please note this list is by no means exhaustive and if you would like to add an obscure job to the list feel free to email us with your suggestion and its meaning. We hope you find the updated information useful for your research.
wrong iron 👇🏿
IRON FOUNDER A person who made iron castings. IRON MONGER Dealer in hardware made of iron IRON TURNER An iron turner was a metal machinist. The lathes were driven by a belt attached to a pulley wheel on a line shaft up at ceiling level which was driven by an engine. The 'Turners' turned (machined) cast iron, brass and bronze castings.
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Just stumbled over it: the over-the-top-fitting (but missed) support band for this Manchester date.
https://bumblebboy.buzz/
The Homepage is buzzing and offers live footage… [watch;]
Their entering of the stage is a must see…🤣
Imagine Bumble B. Boy on stage at Manchester’s Co-op Live Arena - in front of a 20.000+ crowd… at best: the whole whatever even on the big screen. Easily a once in a lifetime spectacle for the band on stage and the (PJ) audience.
FAILED CHILDREN'S ENTERTAINER PUSHES BOUNDARIES WITH A UNIQUE BLEND OF THEATER AND ELECTRIC PUNK ENERGY
Theatrical shows that fall somewhere between a grand rock opera and an average episode of the Teletubbies. Bumble B. Boy does it. This Australian, who resides in Nijmegen, is currently perhaps the most bizarre festival sensation in the Netherlands. This rapidly rising art-punk artist and failed children’s entertainer is pushing boundaries with his unique mix of theater, storytelling, and electric punk energy. He emerged earlier this year as a true live sensation, aweing crowds at Best Kept Secret, Down the Rabbit Hole, and Into the Great Wide Open.
https://bumblebboybuzz.bandcamp.com/album/bumble-b-boy
(debut album out now)
👆🏿 Welcome to the Fantasy Zone (on board incl. Manchester again + Bumble B. Boy)
Still looking for something…
+ stumbled over a total view on co-op in Manchester whilst looking for something else
and stumbled over this arena sound bit:
A CLOSE LOOK AT CO-OP LIVE’S ACOUSTICAL TREATMENT
d&b audio’s Array calc simulation view showing the system’s performance inside Co-op Live.
Much noise is being made around the acoustics inside Co-op Live. The vision for Co-op Live was to create the best arena for music ever, and that means audio to match.
“The main challenges are due to the sheer volume of the space and still maintaining well defined acoustics and clarity,” Creedy said. “It’s far different from a classic music hall or theatre where the early reflections are encouraged. Any useful early reflections are impossible to achieve in a venue this size, where the sound off any of the surrounding surfaces has potential for causing disturbing late reflections. The aim is to provide good aligned direct sound, followed by a smooth dense reverb tail with lack of discrete audible reflections.”
Vanguardia carried out detailed computer modeling to accurately determine the acoustics of the space.
“Careful attention ensures a good tonal balance across the frequency range and to ensure any late reflections are masked within the reverberation tails,” Creedy said. “The balance of this is critical as minimizing the reverberation time improves the clarity of the sound but can lead to discrete reflections being audible that can be more disturbing than longer reverberation times. We have explored using more diffusive and angled profiles than are typically used on any other arenas, including concertina style side walls and angled walls to the rear. This ensures sound is redirected to exactly where we want it.”
Some of Co-op Live’s architectural design elements came in handy while figuring out the sound. The lack of advertising in the bowl, for instance, “meant we could provide acoustic treatment to any areas that were causing reflection issues,” Creedy said. “This included balcony fronts where you would typically have LED ribbon boards to ensure the quality of the sound could be maintained.” They used resonant membrane bass traps to absorb low frequencies without impacting higher frequency absorption.
“Typically, in arenas where only broadband absorption is used, there is a fall in reverberation time as the frequency increases,” Creedy said. “This was something we wanted to avoid so we explored areas where we could use bass traps to absorb the lower frequencies whilst maintaining reflective at high frequencies.”
As the length of the arena is relatively short compared to other arenas, “It not only improves the visual intimacy but also provides a more intimate acoustic experience, minimizes the physical volume, improves direct sound coverage and reduces the time arrival from late reflections,” Creedy explained.
Co-op Live’s permanently installed system is a combination of d&b’s Vi-Series and ALi-Series loudspeakers, with custom rigging hardware.
“The standard versions of these loudspeaker systems are a mainstay of technical riders for many of the top touring artists all over the world and were chosen to provide the high performance and production sound quality expected by the audiences, as well as integrating seamlessly into the systems that touring productions will deploy in the venue,” explained Steve Jones, head of education & application support for Europe, the Middle East and Africa at speaker supplier d&b audiotechnik.
“The overall system provides the best combination of headroom, coverage and pattern control possible within the wider project scope.”
The loudspeakers are driven by the d&b 40D amplifier, which he says provides efficient, powerful signal processing and extended integration, allowing comprehensive control and monitoring.
Jones said he found OVG’s music-first approach refreshing, as it “enabled us to collaborate closely with Vanguardia and Diversified to ensure that the sound systems support the requirements of the touring productions.”
Noting that touring productions typically have much greater audio requirements than a general multipurpose venue, Jones said Co-op Live’s system was built with that in mind.
“The upper section of each of the V-Series have been designed independently from the rest of the arrays to augment touring production,” he said. “A line array’s performance is dependent on the whole shape of the array, so when we design one physical array for two different coverage scenarios it would typically involve quite a large compromise. This is where d&b’s ArrayProcessing technology comes into play to add an extra level of flexible control and performance choices to provide the audience with an optimum audio experience for both performance setups, and to ensure the visiting production can have confidence in integrating into their own mobile system.”
by Gideon Gottfried (Venuesnow)
Manchester, U.K. / Co-Op Live Arena
June 25
Last performed in 2022, “All Night” and Neil Young’s “Fuckin’ Up” make Manchester’s list. The voices of 20k concert-goers combined with McCready’s godly guitar work support a grateful Ed as he powers through a 23-song set despite a strained voice.
> Fanviews on the Forum
> Show Page
> Buy Bootleg
Just thought I should buy the poster
zoomed the small shop picture and
there it is!
Plus another iron next to the bee ? - unless someone has a better idea.
PJ 2024 Manchester Co-op Live Arena - all in one + X
The orange thing/pin on the poster looks like a piece of fruit now. The question about it could be answered.
There is a lot of orange in Manchester.
No need to look on Metrolink maps and for stops on location.
My first photo in the setlist thread shows the arena. There was a stairway right in front of me down to the public transport - and there must be such orange Metrolink signs. A lot of people arrived this way. I had to wait for a shot without any person in view AND Pearl Jam on the venue wall in combination - the band name shared place and time with some announcements in repeat.
astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
wembley 07
dusseldorf 07
nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
The electric flat iron wasn‘t invented in Manchester
Origin in London looks like the K.O. for this trace but I was still hooked enough.
And…lucky find!
Flat Iron + Manchester ?
Dead End ?
(a cut of steak)
Poster > flatiron / iron
Double-Coincidence!?: very similar word + same city
Back to Zero.
————————————
I visited the Manchester
In the second half of the 1800s, Manchester's reputation as a financial and commercial centre was boosted by the unprecedented number of warehouses erected in the city centre. In 1806 there were just over 1,000 but by 1815 this had almost doubled to 1,819. Manchester was dubbed "warehouse city".
(more than this example are still there)
The packing warehouses: Asia House, India House and Velvet House along Whitworth Street were among the tallest buildings of their time. These dominant buildings were the stately homes of the cotton industry and the backbone of Cottonopolis, providing not just the storage facilities but they displayed the finished goods.
The building on the poster could be a specific warehouse or any typical brick stone building.
IF
Manchester + Textile + History > Flatiron / Iron
is correct for the poster, what’s the “real idea” behind the connection?
unsolved detail: Is the building on the poster 1:1 to find in Manchester?
My impression of it was never bad and is improved now
I see the iron head mystery even as plus now.
I found three iron in a very long list
worldthroughthelens.com
the headline fits perfect
OBSCURE OLD ENGLISH CENSUS OCCUPATIONS
Below is a list of some of the more obscure occupations that you may find on the English Census during your genealogy research. Because many of these jobs are no longer in existance there is a brief description against each one. Please note this list is by no means exhaustive and if you would like to add an obscure job to the list feel free to email us with your suggestion and its meaning.
We hope you find the updated information useful for your research.
wrong iron 👇🏿
IRON FOUNDER A person who made iron castings.
IRON MONGER Dealer in hardware made of iron
IRON TURNER An iron turner was a metal machinist. The lathes were driven by a belt attached to a pulley wheel on a line shaft up at ceiling level which was driven by an engine. The 'Turners' turned (machined) cast iron, brass and bronze castings.
https://g.co/kgs/AWXAJUr