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  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,344
    Bully tactics to strong arm him to take whatever deal is given to him. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,714
    The old “good cop”, “bad cop” routine. Did COOTWH think they were filming an episode of Dragnet? Or was it Maxwell Dumb?

    So fucking embarrassing this week has been. I look forward to the 2:00 am twats.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,532


    Unreal...


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,714


    Unreal...


    What is unreal is their “reality.” You’ve had senior members of the administration, including COOTWH and the chairman of the joint chiefs, not be able to say that Putin on the ritz invaded Ukraine. The world is so fucked by, sorry clowns, this clown show. Spend it if you got it.
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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 2,097
    Per AP: “‘You’re not acting at all thankful,’ Trump said, before adding, ‘This is going to be great television.’

    Dude still thinks solely in terms of TV ratings. 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,714
    edited February 28
    If you haven’t watched it, you need to. Fucking embarrassing. I wish Zelensky had just cold cocked him and walked out. Fuck COOTWH and JD Byryder. Fuck them both.

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,650


    Unreal...


    The irony/hypocrisey there is nuts.  It's all about the projection that MAGA does...say someone does something....all the while it is you.  That was a TV moment for JD, not a diplomacy moment.  

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  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,344


    Unreal...


    The irony/hypocrisey there is nuts.  It's all about the projection that MAGA does...say someone does something....all the while it is you.  That was a TV moment for JD, not a diplomacy moment.  

    It definitely looked like JD was trying to be the heavy to impress his boss, pretty pathetic 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,650
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,466
    That was absolutely grotesque.  
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,445
    With friends like these....
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  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,156
    mrussel1 said:
    That was absolutely grotesque.  
    Good description... I'm so horrified 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,714
    Getting mad because you were called out for your lie. A toddler occupies the White House. Thanks ‘Murica.

    President Donald Trump repeated some familiar claims about Ukraine on Friday during a remarkably combative Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Here is a fact check of two of his assertions.

    US wartime aid to Ukraine: Trump, appearing to refer to former President Joe Biden, told Zelensky: “We gave you, through the stupid president, $350 billion.”

    Trump’s $350 billion figure is not close to correct.

    According to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German think tank that closely tracks wartime aid to Ukraine, the US committed a total of about $125 billion in wartime military, financial and humanitarian aid to Ukraine from late January 2022 through December 2024. The US had actually allocated about $120 billion of that total.

    It’s possible to arrive at different totals using different counting methodologies, but there is, regardless, no apparent basis for the “$350 billion” figure Trump has regularly used. The US government inspector general overseeing the Ukraine response says on its website that the US had appropriated about $183 billion for the Ukraine response through December 2024, including about $83 billion actually disbursed — and that includes funding spent in the US or sent to countries other than Ukraine.

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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,612
    Just watched the 7:55 video. Insanity.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,532
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,714
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    I took it as Zelensky trying to express, before he was shouted over, that the US will feel the pain of Ukraine losing its war against Putin on the ritz and that the distance of having oceans between the US and the rest of the world won’t matter. He’s right. The US is going to feel the effects but COOTWH didn’t want to hear it because he’s a tough guy and nobody tells him how it’s going to be.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,353
    edited February 28
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    That's exactly what he meant. I mean no offense but how is one of your first thoughts to worry about having any kind of jingoism about threats towards the US? The guy's saying it's easy to act tough with a large ocean in between us and Russia. It's like the "first they came for those who don't look like me" routine.

    Semi-related: just fucking wild and how much sheep the R's are in their polls of their dislike of Zolensky. They have swung from roughly net zero approval to net negative 25 points flavorability of him (all because of Trump's stance).

    Also funny Trump says WW3 is coming for Ukraine. Buddy, if there's WW3 it's coming for us as well.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,532
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    That's exactly what he meant. I mean no offense but how is one of your first thoughts to worry about having any kind of jingoism about threats towards the US? The guy's saying it's easy to act tough with a large ocean in between us and Russia. It's like the "first they came for those who don't look like me" routine.
    yeah...sorry cincy but you're way off
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,650
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    "You have nice ocean but don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future"

    Not a smart comment, but I get getting pissed at fake tough guys sitting across from you....especially JD Vance who was a disgrace and should keep his mouth shut.
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,313
    That was absolutely insane.  Really embarrassing.  
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,353
    It's a shame we don't have any Zolensky's in this country running for president.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,714
    Is there a GoFundMe for Ukraine to help them buy arms from other countries?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,650
    The talk of being thankful, etc...such bullshit.  Just trying to embarrass a leader of a country you are supposed to be a friend of....not cool at all.  
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,650
    I should not have watched this....

    Fucking trump man....Hunter Biden said 3-4 times...Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton...Obama....holy shit....he is an asshole.   We'd all be better off if Trump had been punched in the face 1 time growing up.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,113
    Zelensky isn't  afraid of putin you can be sure he isn't  afraid of the 🍊 🤡
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,532
    I still can't believe it. trump had even got done saying he wouldn't insult Putin because he wanted to negotiate and then he slams Zelensky
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,353
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    I hesitated watching it because I knew it would fucking infuriate me lol

    Like this is international posturing that will be a really really big fucking deal and lead to the US being an isolated country. And so many morons in this dumb country are going to eat it up. We're so fucking doomed lol

    Having to wait 2 cycles for midterms is comical lol
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,466
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
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    Not a smart comment, but I get getting pissed at fake tough guys sitting across from you....especially JD Vance who was a disgrace and should keep his mouth shut.
    I interpreted that comment as sort of saying, your concerns are different than ours because you have an ocean between you and your enemies.  I'm sure English is his 3rd/4th language so it didn't come out as well as it could have.  

    Fuck our president.  
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