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  • LaFleur
    LaFleur Posts: 829
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I hesitated watching it because I knew it would fucking infuriate me lol

    Like this is international posturing that will be a really really big fucking deal and lead to the US being an isolated country. And so many morons in this dumb country are going to eat it up. We're so fucking doomed lol

    Having to wait 2 cycles for midterms is comical lol
    too many adjectives to describe feelings after watching that; sad, sickening, infuriating - but that right there in bold is the truly horrifying and grotesque aspect of what just happened.  
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    maga shall celebrate trump's "toughness" from the trailer park rooftops. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    "You have nice ocean but don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future"

    Not a smart comment, but I get getting pissed at fake tough guys sitting across from you....especially JD Vance who was a disgrace and should keep his mouth shut.
    I interpreted that comment as sort of saying, your concerns are different than ours because you have an ocean between you and your enemies.  I'm sure English is his 3rd/4th language so it didn't come out as well as it could have.  

    Fuck our president.  
    I think you are giving him the benefit of the doubt big time there...he used the "Nice ocean" an obvious dig at trump talking about the beautiful ocean protecting us....I think it was a clear, just wait it could happen to you.  

    Again, I feel he was provoked into lashing out for sure, but just sorry he did as it doesn't look good and allowed Trump to berating him...and actually be correct doing do so for a bit at least.  IMO anyhow.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    "You have nice ocean but don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future"

    Not a smart comment, but I get getting pissed at fake tough guys sitting across from you....especially JD Vance who was a disgrace and should keep his mouth shut.
    I interpreted that comment as sort of saying, your concerns are different than ours because you have an ocean between you and your enemies.  I'm sure English is his 3rd/4th language so it didn't come out as well as it could have.  

    Fuck our president.  
    I think you are giving him the benefit of the doubt big time there...he used the "Nice ocean" an obvious dig at trump talking about the beautiful ocean protecting us....I think it was a clear, just wait it could happen to you.  

    Again, I feel he was provoked into lashing out for sure, but just sorry he did as it doesn't look good and allowed Trump to berating him...and actually be correct doing do so for a bit at least.  IMO anyhow.
    I will always give him the benefit of the doubt.  He is, as they say "heroyam".  
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    nato should throw us out, accept ukraine, and then go wipe putin off of the map. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Where the fuck are the Vichy supporters around here, to tell me that I don't understand the Ukrainian people.  
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,875
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    "You have nice ocean but don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future"

    Not a smart comment, but I get getting pissed at fake tough guys sitting across from you....especially JD Vance who was a disgrace and should keep his mouth shut.
    I interpreted that comment as sort of saying, your concerns are different than ours because you have an ocean between you and your enemies.  I'm sure English is his 3rd/4th language so it didn't come out as well as it could have.  

    Fuck our president.  
    I think you are giving him the benefit of the doubt big time there...he used the "Nice ocean" an obvious dig at trump talking about the beautiful ocean protecting us....I think it was a clear, just wait it could happen to you.  

    Again, I feel he was provoked into lashing out for sure, but just sorry he did as it doesn't look good and allowed Trump to berating him...and actually be correct doing do so for a bit at least.  IMO anyhow.

    I thought the nice ocean comment was a dig, as in the US doesn’t have to worry about Russia lying and going back on its agreements like Ukraine does.

    Not a smart move. No one will ever win a logical argument with trump. If he wanted the minerals deal he should have just  stuck to the script and only say please and thank you. It stinks having this president, but this is apparently what the people want.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    nato should throw us out, accept ukraine, and then go wipe putin off of the map. 
    Amen. I think what we need is a fucking thorough ass kicking.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    Ukrainian ambassador to the US during the exchange. She expressed what the rest of the world, minus Russia Russia Russia, is feeling.


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  • DE4173
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    I'm going to watch the full fifty minutes later this weekend. No excuses for what occurred in the 7:55 minutes version that I saw. Curious to see all what was said before that mayhem. 🤨
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    It Was an Ambush

    Today marked one of the grimmest days in the history of American diplomacy.

    Leave aside, if only for a moment, the utter boorishness with which President Donald Trump and Vice President J. D. Vance treated Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the White House today. Also leave aside the spectacle of American leaders publicly pummeling a friend as if he were an enemy. All of the ghastliness inflicted on Zelensky today should not obscure the geopolitical reality of what just happened: The president of the United States ambushed a loyal ally, presumably so that he can soon make a deal with the dictator of Russia to sell out a European nation fighting for its very existence



    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/ukraine-us-relations-trump/681880/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    what baffles me is after contributing billions of dollars to help ukraine defend itself, trump wants to cut it off, let them lose, and just waste all that money for nothing in return.


    wait, that is the gop in a nutshell. my bad.
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,823
    Interested to see what transpired in the first forty or so minutes of the conversation. Like they lay in wait all that time?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    DE4173 said:
    Interested to see what transpired in the first forty or so minutes of the conversation. Like they lay in wait all that time?
    What happened, and what this is all about, is that Trump refused to provide any security guarantees in exchange for half of the mineral rights.  IN other words, he wanted Z to agree to allow American companies develop and extract the minerals for half of the value, in exchange for...nothing.  
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,823
    Thanks mrussel!
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  • DE4173
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    Do conservatives have russian flags in the profile pictures and/or "I Stand With russia" flag pics?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    DE4173 said:
    Do conservatives have russian flags in the profile pictures and/or "I Stand With russia" flag pics?
    No, that lapel pin that you think is an AR15 is a AK47 and their Russian flag lapel pin is worn on the inside of their suit jackets where the inside pocket is located. Except Gym Jordan, he wears his on his small set of pierced balls.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Watch to the end. Strong words. What was that about shooting traitors again?

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  • josevolution
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Watch to the end. Strong words. What was that about shooting traitors again?

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  • mrussel1
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    Interview of Z on Fox news by Brett Baier.  He is fighting for his people and his people are fighting for their freedom.  How can anyone criticize that?

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/zelenskyy-speaks-out-after-public-spat-trump-vance-dustup-bad-both-sides

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