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  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,373
    Bully tactics to strong arm him to take whatever deal is given to him. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,326
    The old “good cop”, “bad cop” routine. Did COOTWH think they were filming an episode of Dragnet? Or was it Maxwell Dumb?

    So fucking embarrassing this week has been. I look forward to the 2:00 am twats.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,888


    Unreal...


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,326
    Gern Blansten said:


    Unreal...


    What is unreal is their “reality.” You’ve had senior members of the administration, including COOTWH and the chairman of the joint chiefs, not be able to say that Putin on the ritz invaded Ukraine. The world is so fucked by, sorry clowns, this clown show. Spend it if you got it.
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  • Vitalogensia
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    Per AP: “‘You’re not acting at all thankful,’ Trump said, before adding, ‘This is going to be great television.’

    Dude still thinks solely in terms of TV ratings. 

    https://apnews.com/article/zelenskyy-security-guarantees-trump-meeting-washington-eebdf97b663c2cdc9e51fa346b09591d
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited February 28
    If you haven’t watched it, you need to. Fucking embarrassing. I wish Zelensky had just cold cocked him and walked out. Fuck COOTWH and JD Byryder. Fuck them both.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/crewqz93yzqo
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  • cincybearcat
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    Gern Blansten said:


    Unreal...


    The irony/hypocrisey there is nuts.  It's all about the projection that MAGA does...say someone does something....all the while it is you.  That was a TV moment for JD, not a diplomacy moment.  

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  • Hawk123
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    cincybearcat said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    Unreal...


    The irony/hypocrisey there is nuts.  It's all about the projection that MAGA does...say someone does something....all the while it is you.  That was a TV moment for JD, not a diplomacy moment.  

    It definitely looked like JD was trying to be the heavy to impress his boss, pretty pathetic 
  • cincybearcat
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    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,027
    That was absolutely grotesque.  
  • dignin
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    With friends like these....
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  • gotthebottle
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    mrussel1 said:
    That was absolutely grotesque.  
    Good description... I'm so horrified 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,326
    Getting mad because you were called out for your lie. A toddler occupies the White House. Thanks ‘Murica.

    President Donald Trump repeated some familiar claims about Ukraine on Friday during a remarkably combative Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Here is a fact check of two of his assertions.

    US wartime aid to Ukraine: Trump, appearing to refer to former President Joe Biden, told Zelensky: “We gave you, through the stupid president, $350 billion.”

    Trump’s $350 billion figure is not close to correct.

    According to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German think tank that closely tracks wartime aid to Ukraine, the US committed a total of about $125 billion in wartime military, financial and humanitarian aid to Ukraine from late January 2022 through December 2024. The US had actually allocated about $120 billion of that total.

    It’s possible to arrive at different totals using different counting methodologies, but there is, regardless, no apparent basis for the “$350 billion” figure Trump has regularly used. The US government inspector general overseeing the Ukraine response says on its website that the US had appropriated about $183 billion for the Ukraine response through December 2024, including about $83 billion actually disbursed — and that includes funding spent in the US or sent to countries other than Ukraine.

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    Just watched the 7:55 video. Insanity.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    cincybearcat said:
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    I took it as Zelensky trying to express, before he was shouted over, that the US will feel the pain of Ukraine losing its war against Putin on the ritz and that the distance of having oceans between the US and the rest of the world won’t matter. He’s right. The US is going to feel the effects but COOTWH didn’t want to hear it because he’s a tough guy and nobody tells him how it’s going to be.
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  • Jearlpam0925
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    edited February 28
    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    That's exactly what he meant. I mean no offense but how is one of your first thoughts to worry about having any kind of jingoism about threats towards the US? The guy's saying it's easy to act tough with a large ocean in between us and Russia. It's like the "first they came for those who don't look like me" routine.

    Semi-related: just fucking wild and how much sheep the R's are in their polls of their dislike of Zolensky. They have swung from roughly net zero approval to net negative 25 points flavorability of him (all because of Trump's stance).

    Also funny Trump says WW3 is coming for Ukraine. Buddy, if there's WW3 it's coming for us as well.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Watching more, wtf was Zelinsky thinking trying to insinuate war and the pain of it was coming to the USA?  It's probably tough to keep your cool with trump and JD Asshat but damn what a dumb statement.

    While of course trump is wrong about so many things, him replying to that was pretty dead on reality.
    did he say that? I took it to mean that we are lucky that we are far away from Russia
    That's exactly what he meant. I mean no offense but how is one of your first thoughts to worry about having any kind of jingoism about threats towards the US? The guy's saying it's easy to act tough with a large ocean in between us and Russia. It's like the "first they came for those who don't look like me" routine.
    yeah...sorry cincy but you're way off
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