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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,595
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/08/us/politics/trump-israel-arms-weapons.html
    So 8 billion for Israel how much will he send for the relocation and housing of the 1.8 million Palestinians refugees that no one wants to take in? 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,948
    edited February 9
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?

    care to answer?  its been ignored before. so I'm not hopeful.

    My idea addressed this. Palestine should get a plan for autonomy, like Japan and Germany and many other countries that have successfully transitioned away from authoritarianism. They also need to negotiate, to give and take to achieve a treaty for peace , as does Israel.

    But there needs to be temporary oversight to ensure money and power does not end up in the hands of Iran and their proxies, as has occurred in the past. Those too young to have voted in 2007 are going to stand up against Iran? Without support and oversight from other nations in the region like Jordan, Egypt and the Saudis? 
    istael retreats to the 67 borders. to live within tbe borders as set by the un.
    Palestine is a wholey soveriegn nation.


    end of negotiations 

    and no. you did not answer the question as posed.

    DO YOU EQUATE ALL PALESTINIANS WITH HAMAS.  very fucking simple. yes or no is sufficient. as I recall I've asked this of you several times. ducked it everytime,  including now.


    The 2023 war has no ramnifications,

    the 1967 war has no ramnifications.

    Give nothing, get nothing, other than perpetual war.

    Israel should retreat to 1967 borders five minutes after Indiana retreats to the 1809 borders 



     Edit, 

    we are actually in agreement, as before the 1967 invasion of Israel from the West Bank (according to palestinian supporters, should have zero ramnifications) pre 1967 the West Bank was controlled by Jordan, which almost exactly aligns with my proposal for peace.



    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,441
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?

    care to answer?  its been ignored before. so I'm not hopeful.

    My idea addressed this. Palestine should get a plan for autonomy, like Japan and Germany and many other countries that have successfully transitioned away from authoritarianism. They also need to negotiate, to give and take to achieve a treaty for peace , as does Israel.

    But there needs to be temporary oversight to ensure money and power does not end up in the hands of Iran and their proxies, as has occurred in the past. Those too young to have voted in 2007 are going to stand up against Iran? Without support and oversight from other nations in the region like Jordan, Egypt and the Saudis? 
    istael retreats to the 67 borders. to live within tbe borders as set by the un.
    Palestine is a wholey soveriegn nation.


    end of negotiations 

    and no. you did not answer the question as posed.

    DO YOU EQUATE ALL PALESTINIANS WITH HAMAS.  very fucking simple. yes or no is sufficient. as I recall I've asked this of you several times. ducked it everytime,  including now.


    The 2023 war has no ramnifications,

    the 1967 war has no ramnifications.

    Give nothing, get nothing, other than perpetual war.

    Israel should retreat to 1967 borders five minutes after Indiana retreats to the 1809 borders 



     Edit, 

    we are actually in agreement, as before the 1967 invasion of Israel from the West Bank (according to palestinian supporters, should have zero ramnifications) pre 1967 the West Bank was controlled by Jordan, which almost exactly aligns with my proposal for peace.




    point being the illegal settlers AND the government sponsored ones can live within the 67 borders.

    AND YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED A SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTION. YOUR SILENCE ON THAT IS DEAFENING.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,948
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?

    care to answer?  its been ignored before. so I'm not hopeful.

    My idea addressed this. Palestine should get a plan for autonomy, like Japan and Germany and many other countries that have successfully transitioned away from authoritarianism. They also need to negotiate, to give and take to achieve a treaty for peace , as does Israel.

    But there needs to be temporary oversight to ensure money and power does not end up in the hands of Iran and their proxies, as has occurred in the past. Those too young to have voted in 2007 are going to stand up against Iran? Without support and oversight from other nations in the region like Jordan, Egypt and the Saudis? 
    istael retreats to the 67 borders. to live within tbe borders as set by the un.
    Palestine is a wholey soveriegn nation.


    end of negotiations 

    and no. you did not answer the question as posed.

    DO YOU EQUATE ALL PALESTINIANS WITH HAMAS.  very fucking simple. yes or no is sufficient. as I recall I've asked this of you several times. ducked it everytime,  including now.


    The 2023 war has no ramnifications,

    the 1967 war has no ramnifications.

    Give nothing, get nothing, other than perpetual war.

    Israel should retreat to 1967 borders five minutes after Indiana retreats to the 1809 borders 



     Edit, 

    we are actually in agreement, as before the 1967 invasion of Israel from the West Bank (according to palestinian supporters, should have zero ramnifications) pre 1967 the West Bank was controlled by Jordan, which almost exactly aligns with my proposal for peace.




    point being the illegal settlers AND the government sponsored ones can live within the 67 borders.

    AND YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED A SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTION. YOUR SILENCE ON THAT IS DEAFENING.
    I did. But all you want is a war and an argument. And to punish the nation you hate.  The pre 1967 borders were controlled by Jordan, which is almost exactly my proposal for peace now. But your kind isn’t interested in peace 

    The choice is simple, have Palestine in a transition controlled by peaceful nations which leads to independence, or have them be independent immediately and let Iran walk in as they  have done in the past. You want that because you support perpetual war. 

    The 1967 borders existed then but do not now for a specific reason. Jordan was a big reason the 1967 borders were eliminated, but since then they have since shown a track record for peace. The people you support do not have that track record. You have zero interest in peace. And the people you support have zero track record respecting the 67 borders. This is a detailed answer to your question.

    the people of Japan and Germany, aided by transitional governments with oversight, as a result of the actions of their government that initiated wars. This led to peace and prosperity, something you have zero interest in.

    Only one group of people are subject to this harsh interpretation of international law and fairness. Wonder why

     Please keep your anger off this forum. Some may have deaf people in their family, and be offended by your language. But what do you care only what you see in the mirror matters.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,350
    More of this “you hate jews” bullshit. It’s almost like you have to believe that in order to hold the views you do, or your entire premise falls apart. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,350
    “Slilence is deafening” is offensive now? THIS IS WHY THE DEMOCRATS LOST 😂 
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?

    care to answer?  its been ignored before. so I'm not hopeful.

    My idea addressed this. Palestine should get a plan for autonomy, like Japan and Germany and many other countries that have successfully transitioned away from authoritarianism. They also need to negotiate, to give and take to achieve a treaty for peace , as does Israel.

    But there needs to be temporary oversight to ensure money and power does not end up in the hands of Iran and their proxies, as has occurred in the past. Those too young to have voted in 2007 are going to stand up against Iran? Without support and oversight from other nations in the region like Jordan, Egypt and the Saudis? 
    istael retreats to the 67 borders. to live within tbe borders as set by the un.
    Palestine is a wholey soveriegn nation.


    end of negotiations 

    and no. you did not answer the question as posed.

    DO YOU EQUATE ALL PALESTINIANS WITH HAMAS.  very fucking simple. yes or no is sufficient. as I recall I've asked this of you several times. ducked it everytime,  including now.


    The 2023 war has no ramnifications,

    the 1967 war has no ramnifications.

    Give nothing, get nothing, other than perpetual war.

    Israel should retreat to 1967 borders five minutes after Indiana retreats to the 1809 borders 



     Edit, 

    we are actually in agreement, as before the 1967 invasion of Israel from the West Bank (according to palestinian supporters, should have zero ramnifications) pre 1967 the West Bank was controlled by Jordan, which almost exactly aligns with my proposal for peace.




    point being the illegal settlers AND the government sponsored ones can live within the 67 borders.

    AND YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED A SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTION. YOUR SILENCE ON THAT IS DEAFENING.
    I did. But all you want is a war and an argument. And to punish the nation you hate.  The pre 1967 borders were controlled by Jordan, which is almost exactly my proposal for peace now. But your kind isn’t interested in peace 

    The choice is simple, have Palestine in a transition controlled by peaceful nations which leads to independence, or have them be independent immediately and let Iran walk in as they  have done in the past. You want that because you support perpetual war. 

    The 1967 borders existed then but do not now for a specific reason. Jordan was a big reason the 1967 borders were eliminated, but since then they have since shown a track record for peace. The people you support do not have that track record. You have zero interest in peace. And the people you support have zero track record respecting the 67 borders. This is a detailed answer to your question.

    the people of Japan and Germany, aided by transitional governments with oversight, as a result of the actions of their government that initiated wars. This led to peace and prosperity, something you have zero interest in.

    Only one group of people are subject to this harsh interpretation of international law and fairness. Wonder why

     Please keep your anger off this forum. Some may have deaf people in their family, and be offended by your language. But what do you care only what you see in the mirror matters.
    Very well explained, Lerx. Spot on.  Who cares what the far left Trainwreckers think.  Don't even waste your time. 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,116
    In case you're wondering how some of those voters in Michigan are feeling after their support of Trump, The Guardian did some follow-up. Some people really give Trump the benefit of the doubt. Others, not so much, but they're pretty quiet these days.

    For many Palestinian Americans, Trump’s Gaza plan evokes legacy of displacement | US politics | The Guardian https://search.app/VjaoFiN5Yba6oiJM7
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,411
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,350
    battle1 said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.
    Fuck Israel too. Don’t get me started on them. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,277
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,948
    More of this “you hate jews” bullshit. It’s almost like you have to believe that in order to hold the views you do, or your entire premise falls apart. 

    If you’re gonna quote me, have the courage to actually quote me. Your hatred and insistence on continued war is obvious in the tone of your bullying comments.


    I simply said give Palestine a similar deal that Japan and Germany received, and I get cursed out by the extremists here. And I said wonder why, and you filled in the blanks,  not me, I am only asking. If that’s normal behavior where you live, good for you. Good for you for defending the other commenters here. They need it.

    .
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,277
    More of this “you hate jews” bullshit. It’s almost like you have to believe that in order to hold the views you do, or your entire premise falls apart. 

    If you’re gonna quote me, have the courage to actually quote me. Your hatred and insistence on continued war is obvious in the tone of your bullying comments.


    I simply said give Palestine a similar deal that Japan and Germany received, and I get cursed out by the extremists here. And I said wonder why, and you filled in the blanks,  not me, I am only asking. If that’s normal behavior where you live, good for you. Good for you for defending the other commenters here. They need it.

    .
    What a joke. Are you suggesting Gaza be nuked? Like Japan was? Twice? When did Gaza attack almost the rest of the world? Yet Israel attacked the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Iran and yet you told us only Gaza was responsible and deserved everything it got.

    Meanwhile, Israel is apparently afraid of books in Jerusalem now. Some shining democracy in the ME.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/10/israeli-police-raid-jerusalem-bookshops-and-arrest-palestinian-owners
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,277
    Israel conducts an illegal blockade of Gaza for years, illegally seizes and occupies Palestinian land and allows illegal settlements and seizures of Palestinian homes in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, again for years, and then is surprised when the people they’re oppressing rise up and fight back, all the while playing both political sides within Palestine against each other. Yet they’re innocent in all this? And Gaza is what needs to be occupied and administered on behalf of the Palestinians? It’s almost like Bibi had a plan.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,411
    I wish I knew what was going on here. It seems like there is a lot of agreement but still a lot of animosity.

    It is kind of interesting to me that the Maga agenda seems to be the opposite of supporting any other country in the world except Israel. 

    trump is way too stupid to be in charge right now with everything going on over there.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,595
    I thought most would agree that the innocent Palestinian citizens deserve a place to live in but now it seems like this administration & Bibbi just want to cleanse that territory of its people! But where are they going to? 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,411
    I thought most would agree that the innocent Palestinian citizens deserve a place to live in but now it seems like this administration & Bibbi just want to cleanse that territory of its people! But where are they going to? 
    Yeah and trumpy was threatening Jordan, et al, if they don't agree to take refugees. 

    I hate to sound like a broken record but I cannot imagine the reaction by the USA and the world if Biden would have said something like that. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,350
    I wish I knew what was going on here. It seems like there is a lot of agreement but still a lot of animosity.

    It is kind of interesting to me that the Maga agenda seems to be the opposite of supporting any other country in the world except Israel. 

    trump is way too stupid to be in charge right now with everything going on over there.
    When you’re trying to have a good faith discussion with someone who interprets “we all just want peace and love for all” as  “Your hatred and insistence on continued war”, there’s absolutely zero point. I’m legitimately confused by the obvious lack of reading comprehension. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,595
    I thought most would agree that the innocent Palestinian citizens deserve a place to live in but now it seems like this administration & Bibbi just want to cleanse that territory of its people! But where are they going to? 
    Yeah and trumpy was threatening Jordan, et al, if they don't agree to take refugees. 

    I hate to sound like a broken record but I cannot imagine the reaction by the USA and the world if Biden would have said something like that. 
    Yeah Old man Joe at least has compassion and empathy and understands that the innocent Palestinians need to be helped! Unlike 🤡 who sees everything through $$$$ signs if he had his way he’d just bulldoze them and all the ruble off a cliff 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,411
    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-king-abdullah-meeting-tulsi-gabbard-confirmation-02-11-25/index.html

    Correction...he's threatening Egypt AND Jordan

    Now...what do you think Hamas is going to do now? Release hostages knowing that they are probably bigger bargaining chips against this US occupation? And trump is threatening them now....you tell me how that works when hostages are involved. How does one "unleash hell" against a country that has already been reduced to rubble? What targets can they hit and still ensure the hostages aren't in harms way?

    trump is a fucking moron
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,595
    Again I ask who’s going to pay for the relocation of nearly 2 million people? 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,350
    All trump knows is demand demand demand. Some “negotiator”. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,441
    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-king-abdullah-meeting-tulsi-gabbard-confirmation-02-11-25/index.html

    Correction...he's threatening Egypt AND Jordan

    Now...what do you think Hamas is going to do now? Release hostages knowing that they are probably bigger bargaining chips against this US occupation? And trump is threatening them now....you tell me how that works when hostages are involved. How does one "unleash hell" against a country that has already been reduced to rubble? What targets can they hit and still ensure the hostages aren't in harms way?

    trump is a fucking moron

    this allows the bibi strung this out to avoid elextions and probable prison suggestion to be supplanted by its the usa fault.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,617
    Again I ask who’s going to pay for the relocation of nearly 2 million people? 
    Mexico
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,595
    Again I ask who’s going to pay for the relocation of nearly 2 million people? 
    Mexico
    😂 touché 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,411
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    Man...trump is already acting like the US owns Gaza. King Hussein is like "hold the fuck up bitch...we haven't met with Egypt yet"

    trump keeps saying he is the real estate king...like these temporary settlements are going to be vacation property or something
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,595
    Man...trump is already acting like the US owns Gaza. King Hussein is like "hold the fuck up bitch...we haven't met with Egypt yet"

    trump keeps saying he is the real estate king...like these temporary settlements are going to be vacation property or something
    It’s fucking disgusting on all levels I’m surprised he hasn’t proposed to build where the attacks of 10/7 happened you know maybe build a race track or some crap! I ask who in their right mind would buy a condo or what have you on grounds where all those folks were blown to pieces! 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,617
    I'm pretty excited for Maga Cay to be added as a private stop on my next Middle East cruise.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,595
    I'm pretty excited for Maga Cay to be added as a private stop on my next Middle East cruise.
    Will look for the all inclusive option! 
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