End of the American Republic?

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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    benjs said:
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    There's an astonishing amount of smoke around for some people to declare that there's no fire. There's been an astonishing amount of devaluing or ignoring norms. Also an astonishing amount of devaluing or ignoring the law. 

    Even if one doesn't believe the above, a functional democracy must have an informed (and educated) population to make it better (or at least survive). Anyone who criticizes speaking up, should shove it and remind themselves what democracy actually means. 
    They can attempt to start all the fires they want, to use your analogy. And those fires will be extinguished through the checks and balances established since the beginning of our time. The first time our system actually fails we can talk. I don’t pay attention to rhetoric. 

    The claims around here are not “speaking up”. If you read A Moving Trainwreck and didn’t know any better you would already believe the American Republic has been overthrown. Which is about the funniest crock of shit I have ever seen. By all means protest, I am wondering myself where the masses are? If all of this is happening where are all the people speaking out? No one is protesting. I personally don’t, I focus on myself and my family/friends. But I would appreciate seeing all these keyboard warriors get out there and be heard. After all, our country is being taken, right?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,628
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,628
    Well, for as long as we have them


  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,342
    move to Canada. 

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,408
    battle1 said:
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS
    does palpable fear include wanting to "throat punch" our duly elected president?
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    battle1 said:
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS
    does palpable fear include wanting to "throat punch" our duly elected president?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,261
    Well, I’m imagining that some women in certain states, as well as members of the LGBTQ+ and minority communities are living with “palatable fear.” Fuck those people, like the tomorrow people at the Gorge in 2006, eh? I’m guessing the “what me, worry?” Guy is a white male? Just a guess.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,426
    Well, for as long as we have them



    except its not within the executive to make arbitrary cuts , that comes from congress. Vance's ears were still wet or he would have known that.....

    and yes Judges are in fact allowed to check a president.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,628
    lets hope its just him being an idiot and not the breadcrumbs to something worse.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,825
    OnWis97 said:
    Fake news got us here.

    And yeah, it's a coup attempt. Elon's doing it in plain sight. Why you (or anyone) would believe he has the nation's interest in mind is beyond me.
    Can anyone legitimately are otherwise?  To do so would be like saying the Eagles are actually NOT winning at half time 24 to zip. 

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,825
    move to Canada. 

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,342
    so when it comes to the president and the courts in a stand off, no matter what level of court, this is how it works as I understand it from this interview:

    -court gives president an order
    -president defies order
    -court holds president in contempt
    -DOJ is the enforcement mechanism that would deploy marshals to enforce order (whatever that may look like)
    -head of DOJ is a Trump lapdog, refuses to deploy marshals to enforce order
    -president does whatever the fuck he wants

    look, the founders did an amazing job with the initial setup, tried the best they could to separate powers, but holy mothereverloving fuck, they obviously did not bet on the president being a guy like trump. 

    oh, but look, it's beautiful outside today, america still stands. nothing to worry about here. JFC

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,393
    so when it comes to the president and the courts in a stand off, no matter what level of court, this is how it works as I understand it from this interview:

    -court gives president an order
    -president defies order
    -court holds president in contempt
    -DOJ is the enforcement mechanism that would deploy marshals to enforce order (whatever that may look like)
    -head of DOJ is a Trump lapdog, refuses to deploy marshals to enforce order
    -president does whatever the fuck he wants

    look, the founders did an amazing job with the initial setup, tried the best they could to separate powers, but holy mothereverloving fuck, they obviously did not bet on the president being a guy like trump. 

    oh, but look, it's beautiful outside today, america still stands. nothing to worry about here. JFC

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/politics/video/toobin-what-if-trump-defies-federal-judge-ac360-digvid?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc
    I have always kinda thought that they did bet on a guy like Trump but they didn't bet on an entire party of people in the other two branches stepping aside and allowing it. I'm kinda splitting hairs here but I feel like the idea was not to let one branch of government (particularly the President get too much power and assuming that the other two branches would likely want their share of the power enough to stop it.

    Turns out they couldn't anticipate Fox News and the App Formerly Known as Twitter any more than they could have anticipated machine guns.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,595
    so when it comes to the president and the courts in a stand off, no matter what level of court, this is how it works as I understand it from this interview:

    -court gives president an order
    -president defies order
    -court holds president in contempt
    -DOJ is the enforcement mechanism that would deploy marshals to enforce order (whatever that may look like)
    -head of DOJ is a Trump lapdog, refuses to deploy marshals to enforce order
    -president does whatever the fuck he wants

    look, the founders did an amazing job with the initial setup, tried the best they could to separate powers, but holy mothereverloving fuck, they obviously did not bet on the president being a guy like trump. 

    oh, but look, it's beautiful outside today, america still stands. nothing to worry about here. JFC

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/politics/video/toobin-what-if-trump-defies-federal-judge-ac360-digvid?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc
    He’s daring the courts to try stop him
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,426
    OnWis97 said:
    so when it comes to the president and the courts in a stand off, no matter what level of court, this is how it works as I understand it from this interview:

    -court gives president an order
    -president defies order
    -court holds president in contempt
    -DOJ is the enforcement mechanism that would deploy marshals to enforce order (whatever that may look like)
    -head of DOJ is a Trump lapdog, refuses to deploy marshals to enforce order
    -president does whatever the fuck he wants

    look, the founders did an amazing job with the initial setup, tried the best they could to separate powers, but holy mothereverloving fuck, they obviously did not bet on the president being a guy like trump. 

    oh, but look, it's beautiful outside today, america still stands. nothing to worry about here. JFC

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/politics/video/toobin-what-if-trump-defies-federal-judge-ac360-digvid?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc
    I have always kinda thought that they did bet on a guy like Trump but they didn't bet on an entire party of people in the other two branches stepping aside and allowing it. I'm kinda splitting hairs here but I feel like the idea was not to let one branch of government (particularly the President get too much power and assuming that the other two branches would likely want their share of the power enough to stop it.

    Turns out they couldn't anticipate Fox News and the App Formerly Known as Twitter any more than they could have anticipated machine guns.

    this. further I want to point out we weren't set up with parties in mind but the early factions of differing political thoughts on how we were to be set up coalesced around themselves.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,945
    battle1 said:
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS


    Battle banned now? What the heck. Liberals here get away with not only talking about others, but mocking those who don’t agree. Support the right, you’re getting banned? Support the left, get away with a lot.
  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,440
    Maybe you don't need to necessarily fly flags or have boat parades to be in a cult.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,408
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    battle1 said:
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS


    Battle banned now? What the heck. Liberals here get away with not only talking about others, but mocking those who don’t agree. Support the right, you’re getting banned? Support the left, get away with a lot.
    uh...pay attention, he isn't a trumpster. Follow the rules or take a time out. Pretty clear.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,408
    so when it comes to the president and the courts in a stand off, no matter what level of court, this is how it works as I understand it from this interview:

    -court gives president an order
    -president defies order
    -court holds president in contempt
    -DOJ is the enforcement mechanism that would deploy marshals to enforce order (whatever that may look like)
    -head of DOJ is a Trump lapdog, refuses to deploy marshals to enforce order
    -president does whatever the fuck he wants

    look, the founders did an amazing job with the initial setup, tried the best they could to separate powers, but holy mothereverloving fuck, they obviously did not bet on the president being a guy like trump. 

    oh, but look, it's beautiful outside today, america still stands. nothing to worry about here. JFC

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/politics/video/toobin-what-if-trump-defies-federal-judge-ac360-digvid?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc
    He’s daring the courts to try stop him
    That's really what it has come down to. He's attempting to destroy the checks and balances of the two other branches. He seems to have successfully destroyed the legislative branch. Judicial is next.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,342
    battle1 said:
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS


    Battle banned now? What the heck. Liberals here get away with not only talking about others, but mocking those who don’t agree. Support the right, you’re getting banned? Support the left, get away with a lot.
    Dude is a liberal. There goes THAT narrative. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,791
    battle1 said:
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

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    Battle banned now? What the heck. Liberals here get away with not only talking about others, but mocking those who don’t agree. Support the right, you’re getting banned? Support the left, get away with a lot.
    Dude is a liberal. There goes THAT narrative. 
    You believe that now? Not sure anyone bought it before the ban 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,408
    nicknyr15 said:
    battle1 said:
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS


    Battle banned now? What the heck. Liberals here get away with not only talking about others, but mocking those who don’t agree. Support the right, you’re getting banned? Support the left, get away with a lot.
    Dude is a liberal. There goes THAT narrative. 
    You believe that now? Not sure anyone bought it before the ban 
    He was what others refer to around here as a "hardcore far left liberal"....he even wanted to throat punch trump due to a bad haircut
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,791
    nicknyr15 said:
    battle1 said:
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS


    Battle banned now? What the heck. Liberals here get away with not only talking about others, but mocking those who don’t agree. Support the right, you’re getting banned? Support the left, get away with a lot.
    Dude is a liberal. There goes THAT narrative. 
    You believe that now? Not sure anyone bought it before the ban 
    He was what others refer to around here as a "hardcore far left liberal"....he even wanted to throat punch trump due to a bad haircut
    Sure. Sure he was 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,342
    nicknyr15 said:
    battle1 said:
    battle1 said:j
    I guess you have a lot more faith in the system. And hopefully everything he is doing is bullshit and it doesn't affect the country in any meaningful way. 

    I hope you are right. I am just more pessimistic about this.


    But yes, thats what I gather from your stance. You believe people here are handwringing (and you would be right) and you think there is nothing to handwring about. 
     

    I believe our system will prevail as always. Is that so hard to understand. By all means be pessimistic, thats your choice, along with the rest of the A Moving Trainwreck posse. Fear yourselves to death for all I care. And I will continue try to remind you all that America will always prevail through checks and balances. Now go back to the regularly scheduled mean orange bad guy coup rhetoric. 
    I agree it will prevail and don’t subscribe to it being “the end of the republic”, but I do believe aspects of our society will be fundamentally changed and things will be worse than they have been for many Americans. I think that’s the palpable fear people here are sensing and posting about and they have every right to be worried. 

    I agree that aspects will be fundamentally different, at least for the next 4 years. That’s extremely unfortunate, but again, I believe America will overcome. As always. Again, the select few Trainwreckers are posting well beyond “palpable fear”, in my humble opinion. But happy to see we ultimately agree on something and happy to see at least one other person around here believes in our checks and balances. 

    GO 🦅 BIRDS


    Battle banned now? What the heck. Liberals here get away with not only talking about others, but mocking those who don’t agree. Support the right, you’re getting banned? Support the left, get away with a lot.
    Dude is a liberal. There goes THAT narrative. 
    You believe that now? Not sure anyone bought it before the ban 
    People (myself included) assumed he was a maga at first because of how he talked about hating the left. He’s a democrat who hates the extremes of both sides. But he wrongly assumes the liberals here are all far left. He also seems to despise, or at least find irrelevance, in everything non-american. 
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  • SeaSea Posts: 3,079
    Let’s get this thread back on topic please. Discuss the topic not the people discussing the topic. Thank you.

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,426
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    good to know one tenet is alive and well in america.
    you are free to speak as you wish.
    you are also free to experience the consequences of that speech.


    so we arent quite at the end just yet.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,261
    mickeyrat said:
    good to know one tenet is alive and well in america.
    you are free to speak as you wish.
    you are also free to experience the consequences of that speech.


    so we arent quite at the end just yet.
    Well, we are if you work in the federal government.
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    Today’s WaPo headlines. Very impressive and awesome news. Bodes well for the future, for sure. Had enough winning yet?

    Trump administration directs agency heads to fire most probationary staff

    Terminations should happen within two days, according to four people familiar with internal conversations.

    DOGE rips through Education Department, cutting contracts, staff and grants

    Contracts that are key to interpreting data about the American education system were cut as DOGE seeks to trim spending. Some contracts will be rebid.

    McMahon, Trump’s pick for schools chief, says local control has its limits

    Democrats pressed the nominee on Trump’s plan to close the agency, spending cuts and the fate of Black history classes during her confirmation hearing Thursday.

    Kennedy Center staff describe climate of fear as events drop from calendar

    Issa Rae became the first major artist to publicly cancel an upcoming show at the center after President Trump took over its board and leadership.

    U.S. plan to award $400M vehicle contract removes reference to Musk’s Tesla

    The lucrative contract was amended Wednesday to remove Tesla as the manufacturer after news outlets reported on the potential conflict of interest involving Trump adviser Elon Musk.

    Top N.Y. prosecutor, others resign after order to drop Eric Adams case

    Five Justice Department officials also submitted resignations, gutting the Public Integrity Section, which investigates public officials and election crimes.

    Hegseth team invites far-right activist Jack Posobiec on overseas trip

    The offer triggered alarm among Pentagon officials concerned about the military being dragged into partisan warfare.

    Trump’s call with Putin alarms Europe and shocks Ukraine

    The announcement of the Trump-Putin call made no mention of Europe or of much of a Ukrainian role, playing into fears that their interests will fall by the wayside.

    Hegseth softens stance on Ukraine’s NATO goal as Trump doubles down

    Their remarks added to the anxiety, in Washington and across Europe, surrounding the president’s plan to pursue a deal that would end the Russia-Ukraine war.

    U.S. park service deletes trans references on Stonewall monument page

    “LGB” change made to comply with Trump executive order on gender, National Park Service says.

    Trump insults McConnell over RFK Jr. vote, casts doubts on polio diagnosis

    “I have no idea if he had polio,” Trump said when asked about the 82-year-old senator’s decision to vote against Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

    Delayed CDC report shows increased evidence of bird flu spread to people

    Veterinarians who provide care for cattle were unknowingly infected last year.

    Missouri AG sues Starbucks, says workforce is ‘more female and less white’

    Attorney General Andrew Bailey takes aim at the coffee giant’s diversity policies, accusing the company of racist and discriminatory hiring practices.

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