End of the American Republic?

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    you can't unpardon someone, can you?
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    you can't unpardon someone, can you?
    No.
    But watch him do it. The checks and balances are gone.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    OnWis97 said:
    you can't unpardon someone, can you?
    No.
    But watch him do it. The checks and balances are gone.
    no DA or judge would order the arrest of someone who was previously pardoned and re-instate their sentence. And Trump is powerless with judges. It won't happen. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    OnWis97 said:
    you can't unpardon someone, can you?
    No.
    But watch him do it. The checks and balances are gone.
    no DA or judge would order the arrest of someone who was previously pardoned and re-instate their sentence. And Trump is powerless with judges. It won't happen. 
    Powerless? He’s telling the judiciary to go fuck themselves as well as the adversarial system of justice. “Fuck you, I’m going to do what I want and you can’t stop me.” People detained without charge, people deported in violation of court orders and attacking and denigrating the justice system at the DOJ. Powerless.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    OnWis97 said:
    you can't unpardon someone, can you?
    No.
    But watch him do it. The checks and balances are gone.
    no DA or judge would order the arrest of someone who was previously pardoned and re-instate their sentence. And Trump is powerless with judges. It won't happen. 
    Powerless? He’s telling the judiciary to go fuck themselves as well as the adversarial system of justice. “Fuck you, I’m going to do what I want and you can’t stop me.” People detained without charge, people deported in violation of court orders and attacking and denigrating the justice system at the DOJ. Powerless.
    let's say he orders a person's arrest. then they have to go before a judge. Every judge in the country would release that person immediately. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    It's more like (to borrow a song title) the end of the world as we know it.  At least here in the U.S.   
    Anger abounds (much of it righteous, but still, so much anger, so little joy). 
    Rudeness abounds (yes, kindness is still a thing, but I've never know so much rude behavior.) 
    Tyranny abounds (but resistance is building.  The question is will it be a: enough and b: strong and tenacious enough?)
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    U.S. could lose democracy status, says global watchdog
      
    Trump has escalated an authoritarian turn in last few days


    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-democracy-report-1.7486317

    Winning!!!
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    dignin said:
    U.S. could lose democracy status, says global watchdog
      
    Trump has escalated an authoritarian turn in last few days


    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-democracy-report-1.7486317

    Winning!!!
    It’s too late, waaaaaaay too late. From the report:

    The report adds an important caveat: this year's version does not including events in 2025, meaning it does not cover the start of Donald Trump's latest presidential term.

    But it refers to ongoing events in the U.S. as unprecedented, mentioning Trump pardoning 1,500 criminals who supported him; firing independent agency watchdogs without process; purging apolitical police and military brass; ignoring laws; and his unilaterally deleting federal programs, and even a whole organization, created by U.S. Congress.

    In the last few days alone, Trump has smashed past several new milestones. 

    He's just called his predecessor's pardons void and vacated. He gave a bitterly partisan speech at the Department of Justice, demanding the prosecution of the media and certain adversaries. He threatened numerous universities with sanctions. He invoked a 227-year-old war measures law during peacetime — for the first time ever — to deport accused gang members without due process. And, most importantly, when that deportation plan wound up in court, he may have — although it's still in dispute — defied a court order, cracking the ultimate constitutional safeguard.

    It's not just the scope of what Trump's done that has Lindberg envisioning the once-unthinkable: removing the U.S. from the democratic list and shifting it to the second-lowest tier among five, to a so-called electoral autocracy. It's also the speed. 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And if you haven’t yet, you have to watch the speech COOTWH gave at DOJ that is linked within the posted article. Off the rails within 3 minutes of stepping up to the podium. Me thinks COOTWH was sampling some product. But hey, happy days are here again!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Holy hell, 26 minutes in but in general? And some are afraid of Palestinian protesters? You, general you,  might want to wake up but I doubt you, general you, will.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    He’ll be here for 1,404 days folks. Try the liver and onions and don’t forget to tip your waitress and bartender.
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  • Zod
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    He’ll be here for 1,404 days folks. Try the liver and onions and don’t forget to tip your waitress and bartender.
    or longer?  Who is going to oppose him if attempts a 3rd term? 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    You think it’s a one off? No big deal, eh? Welcome to the United States of Authoritarianism. Better wake up. No, you, general you, better wake the fuck up. Enter at your own risk.

    French scientist denied US entry after phone messages critical of Trump found

    France’s research minister said the scientist was traveling to Houston for a conference when his phone was searched

    France’s research minister said a French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration.

    “I learned with concern that a French researcher” on assignment for the French National Center for Scientific Research (CNRS) “who was traveling to a conference near Houston was denied entry to the United States before being expelled”, Philippe Baptiste, France’s minister of higher education and research, said in a statement on Monday to Agence France-Presse published by Le Monde. “This measure was apparently taken by the American authorities because the researcher’s phone contained exchanges with colleagues and friends in which he expressed a personal opinion on the Trump administration’s research policy,” the minister added.

    “Freedom of opinion, free research, and academic freedom are values ​​that we will continue to proudly uphold. I will defend the right of all French researchers to be faithful to them, while respecting the law,” Baptiste said.

    A diplomatic source told the French news agency that the incident occurred on 9 March.

    Another AFP source said that US authorities accused the French researcher of “hateful and conspiratorial messages”. He was reportedly also informed of an FBI investigation, but told that “charges were dropped” before being expelled.

    The Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    The research minister, Baptiste, has been outspoken in his own criticism of the Trump administration, and Elon Musk, for making huge cuts to scientific research budgets.

    On the same day that the researcher was denied entry to the US, Baptiste published a letter calling on American researchers to relocate to France. “Many well-known researchers are already questioning their future in the United States,” he wrote. “We would naturally wish to welcome a certain number of them.”

    The next day, Baptiste posted a photograph of himself in a virtual meeting with a researcher at the University of Maryland School of Medicine who had decided to take up an invitation from Aix-Marseille University to welcome researchers who wish to leave the United States.

    On 12 March, Baptiste shared video on X, of a television appearance in which he deplored the way that research on health, climate, energy and AI “is being chainsawed in the United States”.

    In the same interview, Baptiste said that he had “heard Elon Musk say that the International Space Station should be shut down in 2027. Who are we talking about? The boss of SpaceX? The head of the American public administration? None of this makes any sense.”

    It was not immediately clear what conference the researcher who was denied entry to the US was planning to attend, but the 56th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference was held outside Houston from 10 to 14 March.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    There used to be a term. What was it? Let me think for a minute. Hmmmmmm? Its on the tip of my tongue. Yup, its coming back to me. It used to be a pretty popular phrase. What was it again? Oh yea, I know, "unAmerican." That's it! Un-American! UN-AMERICAN!

    From A Letter From An American:

    In a webcast on Monday, Trump ally Steve Bannon defended the deportations even if, as his guest said, they swept in “some gardener or something who’d never been in trouble.” Bannon replied: “ Big deal…. Maybe some people got caught up in it. Who knows?... I think they got everybody who was a bad guy, but guess what? If there's some innocent gardeners in there? Hey, tough break for a swell guy. That's where we stand.”

    Throughout our history, that is not where the laws of the United States, or the majority of its people, have stood.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Zod said:
    He’ll be here for 1,404 days folks. Try the liver and onions and don’t forget to tip your waitress and bartender.
    or longer?  Who is going to oppose him if attempts a 3rd term? 
    No one. Its too late.

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    edited March 20
    When living in a country not being a threat to the world:

    Other Nordic countries are also once again at the top of the happiness rankings in the annual report published by the Wellbeing Research Centre at the University of Oxford. Besides Finland, Denmark, Iceland and Sweden remain the top four and in the same order.

    When living in a country being a threat to the world:

    When it comes to decreasing happiness — or growing unhappiness —the United States has dropped to its lowest-ever position at 24, having previously peaked at 11th place in 2012. 


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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    When living in a country not being a threat to the world:

    Other Nordic countries are also once again at the top of the happiness rankings in the annual report published by the Wellbeing Research Centre at the University of Oxford. Besides Finland, Denmark, Iceland and Sweden remain the top four and in the same order.

    When living in a country being a threat to the world:

    When it comes to decreasing happiness — or growing unhappiness —the United States has dropped to its lowest-ever position at 24, having previously peaked at 11th place in 2012. 


    Some would only believe those rankings if the US was at the top. Oddly familiar to someone we know…
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    "That's because the socialist governments convince these suckers that they're happy paying for each other's health care, driving vehicles that aren't even as tall as they are, and not having nearly half of the populace one missed paycheck from disaster. Soft."
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    All these people screaming at town halls.  Those who voted for Trump have no right saying anything.  They’re getting what they voted for.  
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited March 20
    All these people screaming at town halls.  Those who voted for Trump have no right saying anything.  They’re getting what they voted for.  
    They are getting what they voted for. Some of them (the ones not screaming at town halls; which I'd guess is most) love it. Others bought the absolute nonsense they hear from Twitter, OAN, Charlie Kirk, or whatever fearmongering misinformation source convinced them they were saving America.

    In any case, I don't want to absolve them of their responsibility, but aside from their first amendment right to say something (which I realize is not what you likely meant by "right") I'd argue that the more regret the better. I'm not particularly hopeful that this too shall pass, but without messages of regret and anger from his voters, the slim chance of getting out of this gets even slimmer.
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