F2F is OPEN

Go Animal · January 27

PinoyPJ said:

this happened a few weeks ago with a link....

Shady AF

steven87 · January 27

Go Animal said:

Go Animal said:

Refreshed over 2 dozen times. If someone on here got them, then good for you.

If it was a bot for a reseller? Eat shit & die.

Unbelievable. That sucks. Not sure what is going on with the links lately- sometimes they work and sometimes they don’t, and there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. The last three links I’ve tried have timed out on me. But I know someone else who successfully scored off a link yesterday. How I miss the old F2F.

RatherStarved · January 27

I’m 1 for 1 buying from a link this year, but it was a 200 level single.

runstaples · January 27

Im 2/2 on links but both times were for Raleigh, probably the least demand city of the tour. Im sure Pitt is impossible. This sucks.

Reissy · January 27

Over the past week and a half, completing a F2F transaction while I’m on mobile hasn’t been doable for me. The process fails to progress at various points. But I’ve been successful on desktop.

Could just be a me thing, but I remember seeing Chrrie also mention something about this.

Shaindli1 · January 27

runstaples said:

Im 2/2 on links but both times were for Raleigh, probably the least demand city of the tour. Im sure Pitt is impossible. This sucks.

I had successful links twice: once for Raleigh N2 & one for Pittsburgh N2. Both were coordinated with specific people.
However, I also experienced two failures with the method, both for Raleigh N1, one of those with the same person from whom I scored N2.

Not sure what to make of all this.

ekwipt · January 27

From last night.

ekwipt · January 27

For what it’s worth I saw a lower bowl single go last night that isn’t on resale sites. Seen that a bunch of times for this leg. Would be interesting to see what happens if more people would try to pass their pairs on as two singles with a time gap between them.

jwc6160 · January 27

I hate this. Now the system is set up to not only make it harder for fans to get tickets, but (not that i'm condoning this), fans with actual tickets can't make any money or maybe even get stuck with tickets. Yet, bots are getting the tickets and making a shit ton of money off of them. Blow it all up again.

KJ228171 · January 27

Shaindli1 said:

runstaples said:

Im 2/2 on links but both times were for Raleigh, probably the least demand city of the tour. Im sure Pitt is impossible. This sucks.

I had successful links twice: once for Raleigh N2 & one for Pittsburgh N2. Both were coordinated with specific people.
However, I also experienced two failures with the method, both for Raleigh N1, one of those with the same person from whom I scored N2.

Not sure what to make of all this.

Sometimes you are the hammer. Sometimes you are the nail. More and more we are becoming the nail.

The internet created the inevitable endgame for capitalism. It doesn't matter whether it's concerts or sporting events or kid's games, video game consoles, GPUs, CPUs, and on and on. Last week there were near riots at Costco and Target over Pokémon card. Grow ass adults fighting over a kids toy so they can resell rare cards. Also Victor Wembanyama (NBA) does a cute jersey swap with a young fan only to see the jersey framed and for auction the next starting at $10,000. Last this week NVIDIA will create a new cluster. It doesn't matter if the artist or company or athlete wants to make thing tenable for fans. Other people will sweep in and take advantage of the price disparity.

You can't control the whole market but 10C should control it's allotments. It's a failing. That's why I'm appreciative of every single person that has made an attempt to notify people about F2F listings either here, on Facebook, on Reddit, etc... Not only to the people that have tried to help me (THANK YOU) but for shows that I'm not looking. It just a kind and meaningful gesture for the community.

RatherStarved · January 27

If anyone has a Raleigh 1 extra I’d be happy to try a link, you know, for science.

ekwipt · January 27

RatherStarved said:

If anyone has a Raleigh 1 extra I’d be happy to try a link, you know, for science.

Likewise myself for ATL 2. Somebody needs to start experimenting with it. I get that many people have a fear of losing 1/2 of a pair but I’d say 50% or more of pairs links are being lost anyways. Maybe more than 50% when it comes to front lower bowl & floor.

Go Animal · January 27

ekwipt said:

From last night.

Older ways were better.

Go Animal · January 27

Nice pose, billionaire.

Weston1283 · January 27

Fully transferable 10club tickets is the only way forward

Would you rather have a handful of people abuse full transferability (entering all shows, helping their other 10c buddies, and maybe even someone selling above face value)

Or would you rather continue with what F2F has become

10C is simply not going to go back to a will call system or go back to managing it themselves. The process will forever be outsourced at this point. So that is not a realistic option.

jwc6160 · January 27

Weston1283 said:

Fully transferable 10club tickets is the only way forward

Would you rather have a handful of people abuse full transferability (entering all shows, helping their other 10c buddies, and maybe even someone selling above face value)

Or would you rather continue with what F2F has become

10C is simply not going to go back to a will call system or go back to managing it themselves. The process will forever be outsourced at this point. So that is not a realistic option.

I say no transfers at all at this point. Just kill F2F altogether. You either go or risk giving up your log in info. This would open up tickets for more members initially as people wouldn't put in for every show knowing they can just sell back on F2F. I say this as someone in the midwest who never gets a show in my town. It would be way more risky for me since i'm flying to almost any show I go to. I'd still rather run that risk than see us all get screwed by TM bots and resellers.

Weston1283 · January 27

jwc6160 said:

Weston1283 said:

Fully transferable 10club tickets is the only way forward

Would you rather have a handful of people abuse full transferability (entering all shows, helping their other 10c buddies, and maybe even someone selling above face value)

Or would you rather continue with what F2F has become

10C is simply not going to go back to a will call system or go back to managing it themselves. The process will forever be outsourced at this point. So that is not a realistic option.

I say no transfers at all at this point. Just kill F2F altogether. You either go or risk giving up your log in info. This would open up tickets for more members initially as people wouldn't put in for every show knowing they can just sell back on F2F. I say this as someone in the midwest who never gets a show in my town. It would be way more risky for me since i'm flying to almost any show I go to. I'd still rather run that risk than see us all get screwed by TM bots and resellers.

That could work. So basically a digital will call system. If you can't make it, then tough luck. Wouldn't be a popular option, but it is an option I suppose.

ally12 · January 27

Weston1283 said:

jwc6160 said:

Weston1283 said:

Fully transferable 10club tickets is the only way forward

Would you rather have a handful of people abuse full transferability (entering all shows, helping their other 10c buddies, and maybe even someone selling above face value)

Or would you rather continue with what F2F has become

10C is simply not going to go back to a will call system or go back to managing it themselves. The process will forever be outsourced at this point. So that is not a realistic option.

I say no transfers at all at this point. Just kill F2F altogether. You either go or risk giving up your log in info. This would open up tickets for more members initially as people wouldn't put in for every show knowing they can just sell back on F2F. I say this as someone in the midwest who never gets a show in my town. It would be way more risky for me since i'm flying to almost any show I go to. I'd still rather run that risk than see us all get screwed by TM bots and resellers.

That could work. So basically a digital will call system. If you can't make it, then tough luck. Wouldn't be a popular option, but it is an option I suppose.

This is a great idea

10LordsALeaping · January 27

As much as I like the 10C idea, it would just lead to all resellers joining the club. More so than they already have. I think the no transfer is the best option, albeit an unpopular move, as said above. This is the way.

I don't mean to be that guy or throw shade, but if they don't control tickets, then really they just sell merch.

I've resigned myself to not catching this leg of the tour, since the fix is in.

danofun · January 27

Asking for TM to create a new system isn't going to get you anywhere. 10C goal is to sell tickets and get them in the hands of real fans. They are succeeding at an unprecedented rate. Again, every one of these F2F tickets WAS in the hands of a 10C member. EVERY, SINGLE, TICKET. If you want to solved a problem go to the root cause. We may not want to admit it but 10C members are abusing the lottery system by hoarding tickets for either trade or easy of release. Tickets that many of us would love to USE.

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