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  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    Zod said:
    jwc6160 said:
    Chrrie said:
    It’s supposedly already an agreement that tickets being scalped will be voided. Given that there already is no transfer I don’t know what they could do to get around the hack other than not use mobile tickets. If the ticket has a barcode it can be hosted on that secure.tickets site. Here’s an example of what one looks like: 

    https://secure.tickets/wallet/EWmxBwu13xSHp8Mki4u1P6

    If they went back to enabling transfers you can say goodbye to face value tickets if you strike out in the lottery other than the handful of good samaritans on here who will play by the rules, UNLESS the 10c actually does crack down on it. But that also half relies on self-policing and reporting the people who are doing it. 
    I guess I don't understand the tech enough. If each ticket has a barcode and the agreement says no resell, can't they see the tickets out on resell sites and void them? Sure it would be a bit of work, but hell, people that post here would do most of the work for them. 

    No, because they don't post the bar code for free, neither do resell sites post the seat #'s,  Just the section and row, most likely on purpose so the tickets can't be tracked to the person that owns them on TM.  It makes it hard to police when you don't know the exact seat #'s.  10c would need to buy the tickets to see what shows up, or fans would, then relay the info.
    Some resale sites occasionally post seat numbers 
     
    Which is why, in the cases you can directly map tickets on resale sites to those from the lottery, void them or will call them to the original ten club member or the name on the Ticketmaster account that purchased them on f2f. 
  • PinoyPJ
    PinoyPJ Los Angeles, CA Posts: 383
    crazy how these links should directly be available to the person you sent it to... TM already know you are selling at face value, why not add like 10 minute head start.... 
    ride amongst the waves...
  • Ryan_WFC
    Ryan_WFC Posts: 1,353
    How are they selling them on those sites? Aren't they non-transferrable?
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
  • RP123663
    RP123663 Posts: 188
    Ryan_WFC said:
    How are they selling them on those sites? Aren't they non-transferrable?
    They are only non-transferrable for 10c and real fans.  Bots and scalpers can do whatever they want.  Its the way the band and TM want it.
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    Ryan_WFC said:
    How are they selling them on those sites? Aren't they non-transferrable?
    Reverse engineered barcode generator host on a website. Buyers get sent a link to a website and scan that barcode at the venue.
  • MakeUSmile
    MakeUSmile NJ Posts: 1,156
    link for Hollywood night 1 GA’s posted on Facebook a few moments ago. U504. Doesn’t look like anyone in the post got them. 
    Then right after the guy posted that he was notified they sold, I saw a single GA pop up on TM. Could t cart those. 
    can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,347
    link for Hollywood night 1 GA’s posted on Facebook a few moments ago. U504. Doesn’t look like anyone in the post got them. 
    Then right after the guy posted that he was notified they sold, I saw a single GA pop up on TM. Could t cart those. 
    GA for Hollywood?
    #Grievance2025 
  • MakeUSmile
    MakeUSmile NJ Posts: 1,156
    Shaindli1 said:
    link for Hollywood night 1 GA’s posted on Facebook a few moments ago. U504. Doesn’t look like anyone in the post got them. 
    Then right after the guy posted that he was notified they sold, I saw a single GA pop up on TM. Could t cart those. 
    GA for Hollywood?
    Yup!  This was the single. But right before this was a pair from a link posted on FB.  
    can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
  • Shaindli1
    Shaindli1 MA Posts: 2,347
    Shaindli1 said:
    link for Hollywood night 1 GA’s posted on Facebook a few moments ago. U504. Doesn’t look like anyone in the post got them. 
    Then right after the guy posted that he was notified they sold, I saw a single GA pop up on TM. Could t cart those. 
    GA for Hollywood?
    Yup!  This was the single. But right before this was a pair from a link posted on FB.  
    Dayyum! 
    #Grievance2025 
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,821
    Just sold some non-PJ tickets on TM.  Looks like they now pay you after the event for tickets listed after January 8.  Not sure if this applies to F2F.
  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Just sold some non-PJ tickets on TM.  Looks like they now pay you after the event for tickets listed after January 8.  Not sure if this applies to F2F.
    It would appear it does. I sold one on 1/11 that I never got paid for. Been arguing with their chat reps the past week about getting payment, and was told repeatedly that you don't get paid until after the event. I just assumed they didn't know what they were talking about (as is usually the case), but it seems I was wrong. Would have been nice if they gave some kind of notice. I sold one 5 days before that and had no problem getting paid.
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    for those of you whose TM accounts were paused, did they eventually reopen?  I tried for FireAid tickets for over an hour until I was paused.  I did a chat and was told they would escalate the matter.
    It took about 10 days for mine to become unblocked. I hope yours doesn't take as long.

    did TM ever call you to discuss?
    They never called. I was one of the people who got the email saying that it would be a permanent ban. Then about a week later it was unblocked. This happened to a bunch of us. So, if you get an email saying that you are permanently banned it may not be the case. Also, as @KJ228171 suggested, if you are not unblocked by the NIN sale, just create a new account. You have to create it with a new email address, but can use the same payment methods.

    Thanks for the information.
    I know most people are tired of this so apologies and closing my loop because I doubt anything comes of it. I emailed 10C about the bans on Dec 26, 2024. They replied today with the following.

    Tickets (Ten Club)

    Jan 29, 2025, 12:40 PM PST

    Hello KXXX,
     
    Thanks for emailing the Ten Club with this information. Sorry for the delay in responding, we have been busy catching up after the ticket sales and holidays.
     
    We will pass along your email, we are always fighting the bots!
     
    Thank you,
     
    Ten Club

  • tylermoore
    tylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 1,113
    KJ228171 said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    for those of you whose TM accounts were paused, did they eventually reopen?  I tried for FireAid tickets for over an hour until I was paused.  I did a chat and was told they would escalate the matter.
    It took about 10 days for mine to become unblocked. I hope yours doesn't take as long.

    did TM ever call you to discuss?
    They never called. I was one of the people who got the email saying that it would be a permanent ban. Then about a week later it was unblocked. This happened to a bunch of us. So, if you get an email saying that you are permanently banned it may not be the case. Also, as @KJ228171 suggested, if you are not unblocked by the NIN sale, just create a new account. You have to create it with a new email address, but can use the same payment methods.

    Thanks for the information.
    I know most people are tired of this so apologies and closing my loop because I doubt anything comes of it. I emailed 10C about the bans on Dec 26, 2024. They replied today with the following.

    Tickets (Ten Club)

    Jan 29, 2025, 12:40 PM PST

    Hello KXXX,
     
    Thanks for emailing the Ten Club with this information. Sorry for the delay in responding, we have been busy catching up after the ticket sales and holidays.
     
    We will pass along your email, we are always fighting the bots!
     
    Thank you,
     
    Ten Club

    What email address did you send this to? If enough of us send one, you’d think they stars to care? Maybe? 
  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435


    Sent me the same response, my email was about aftermarket 10c tickets 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    Hooray for cut & paste platitudes!
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    Go Animal said:
    Hooray for cut & paste platitudes!
    Well they took the time to replace “ideas” with “information.”  :|
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Always fighting the bots lol. It’s been going on for two tours now…
  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    KJ228171 said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    GlowGirl said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    for those of you whose TM accounts were paused, did they eventually reopen?  I tried for FireAid tickets for over an hour until I was paused.  I did a chat and was told they would escalate the matter.
    It took about 10 days for mine to become unblocked. I hope yours doesn't take as long.

    did TM ever call you to discuss?
    They never called. I was one of the people who got the email saying that it would be a permanent ban. Then about a week later it was unblocked. This happened to a bunch of us. So, if you get an email saying that you are permanently banned it may not be the case. Also, as @KJ228171 suggested, if you are not unblocked by the NIN sale, just create a new account. You have to create it with a new email address, but can use the same payment methods.

    Thanks for the information.
    I know most people are tired of this so apologies and closing my loop because I doubt anything comes of it. I emailed 10C about the bans on Dec 26, 2024. They replied today with the following.

    Tickets (Ten Club)

    Jan 29, 2025, 12:40 PM PST

    Hello KXXX,
     
    Thanks for emailing the Ten Club with this information. Sorry for the delay in responding, we have been busy catching up after the ticket sales and holidays.
     
    We will pass along your email, we are always fighting the bots!
     
    Thank you,
     
    Ten Club

    What email address did you send this to? If enough of us send one, you’d think they stars to care? Maybe? 
    I sent messages to info@tenclub.net, to the PR rep, to the GM, to the band manager. Although you can find them I'm not posting the last three on a public forum but if you want them DM me. Strangely the first reply they sent (back in December) was contact information for Pearl Jam Press Relations with a phone number and email.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,766
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Just sold some non-PJ tickets on TM.  Looks like they now pay you after the event for tickets listed after January 8.  Not sure if this applies to F2F.
    It would appear it does. I sold one on 1/11 that I never got paid for. Been arguing with their chat reps the past week about getting payment, and was told repeatedly that you don't get paid until after the event. I just assumed they didn't know what they were talking about (as is usually the case), but it seems I was wrong. Would have been nice if they gave some kind of notice. I sold one 5 days before that and had no problem getting paid.
    I sold one in late December and got paid on 1/6.  Guess I just made it under the wire.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • GB66214
    GB66214 Posts: 14
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Just sold some non-PJ tickets on TM.  Looks like they now pay you after the event for tickets listed after January 8.  Not sure if this applies to F2F.
    It would appear it does. I sold one on 1/11 that I never got paid for. Been arguing with their chat reps the past week about getting payment, and was told repeatedly that you don't get paid until after the event. I just assumed they didn't know what they were talking about (as is usually the case), but it seems I was wrong. Would have been nice if they gave some kind of notice. I sold one 5 days before that and had no problem getting paid.
    Wow that's SUPER lame. TM gets to hold onto my money for 5 months for no good reason? Sweet. Thanks for posting this here to spread awareness, though. Saved me from having to waste my time contacting them about it. 
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