#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

Choccoloccotide said:

brianlux said:

Anybody ever notice how angry and hostile Trump fans are these days, even after their crazy man won the election?  It's not surprising, really.  We all know what a shit show the next four years will be.  It's all just a game to the Dictator and his Ambassador of Chaos.  And many of the people who voted for him know or at least deep down know that they were duped, or at the very least are beginning to understand that.  But of course they won't admit it to anyone, least of all themselves.  So they do their best to keep pushing false narratives, and try their best to believe they made the right choice.   But eventually the cracks begin to show and they just get frustrated and angry.  

It would just be so much simpler to admit when you messed up and learn from the situation.  I've always found that's the best thing to do anyway.

And hey, let's be fair, everyone could use to do that.  Democrats could do better too.  The whole country is going down like the Titanic.  It’s 

time to stop fucking around and get serious about righting this ship. 

You’re not gonna be able to right these ships me thinks.

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

Choccoloccotide said:

brianlux said:

Anybody ever notice how angry and hostile Trump fans are these days, even after their crazy man won the election?  It's not surprising, really.  We all know what a shit show the next four years will be.  It's all just a game to the Dictator and his Ambassador of Chaos.  And many of the people who voted for him know or at least deep down know that they were duped, or at the very least are beginning to understand that.  But of course they won't admit it to anyone, least of all themselves.  So they do their best to keep pushing false narratives, and try their best to believe they made the right choice.   But eventually the cracks begin to show and they just get frustrated and angry.  

It would just be so much simpler to admit when you messed up and learn from the situation.  I've always found that's the best thing to do anyway.

And hey, let's be fair, everyone could use to do that.  Democrats could do better too.  The whole country is going down like the Titanic.  It’s 

time to stop fucking around and get serious about righting this ship. 

You’re not gonna be able to right these ships me thinks.

Podesta/Clinton?  I don't know why you think this meme is either relevant or mildly convincing of anything.  

Modern arguments are so trite and fucking stupid, using memes to make a point.  It's a sign of how pathetic our culture has become.  And usually older generations blame the "young", but that's not really the case.  Everyone's brains are going to mush at this point and old fucks are just as blame-worthy. Try to be better and make your case with, you know, actual thoughts and words.  

thats it, melania has her new cause

be better ... again

brianlux said:

Anybody ever notice how angry and hostile Trump fans are these days, even after their crazy man won the election?  It's not surprising, really.  We all know what a shit show the next four years will be.  It's all just a game to the Dictator and his Ambassador of Chaos.  And many of the people who voted for him know or at least deep down know that they were duped, or at the very least are beginning to understand that.  But of course they won't admit it to anyone, least of all themselves.  So they do their best to keep pushing false narratives, and try their best to believe they made the right choice.   But eventually the cracks begin to show and they just get frustrated and angry.  

It would just be so much simpler to admit when you messed up and learn from the situation.  I've always found that's the best thing to do anyway.

And hey, let's be fair, everyone could use to do that.  Democrats could do better too.  The whole country is going down like the Titanic.  Its time to stop fucking around and get serious about righting this ship. 

Gern Blansten said:

benjs said:

brianlux said:

Anybody ever notice how angry and hostile Trump fans are these days, even after their crazy man won the election?  It's not surprising, really.  We all know what a shit show the next four years will be.  It's all just a game to the Dictator and his Ambassador of Chaos.  And many of the people who voted for him know or at least deep down know that they were duped, or at the very least are beginning to understand that.  But of course they won't admit it to anyone, least of all themselves.  So they do their best to keep pushing false narratives, and try their best to believe they made the right choice.   But eventually the cracks begin to show and they just get frustrated and angry.  

It would just be so much simpler to admit when you messed up and learn from the situation.  I've always found that's the best thing to do anyway.

And hey, let's be fair, everyone could use to do that.  Democrats could do better too.  The whole country is going down like the Titanic.  Its time to stop fucking around and get serious about righting this ship. 

1. People would rather be right than be righteous
2. Undue thought control can occur to anyone by appealing to various elements of a person (fear, racism, greed, wealth, homogeny in society, etc), and it's a fallacy that only the foolish can be fooled
3. Due to polarization, people have inherent distrust of those with other beliefs to their own, and discourse is limited to echo chambers or conversations with trolls, hence no minds are swayed
4. There is no desire to think long-term, nor is there political incentive to act in long-term ways
5. Corruption masks itself as stupidity, and stupidity masks itself as corruption. 

I don't believe there are cracks appearing, I believe this has been one of the best propaganda efforts probably since the Nazis, and it has worked on an alarming number of people. I'm a nihilist at this point, and don't feel you can fix widespread epidemics of apathy, greed, indecency, or corruption - especially when they're all present at the same time. 

We need to learn to enjoy our local lives, because as you zoom out to a global scale, problems become more unsolvable. At least locally, we have the illusion of some control, and can choose to move towards decency. 

PS - yes, I compared Trump's administration's behaviours to Nazis; and no, I don't care if anyone thinks that's an exaggeration

Agreed...my opinion is that trump is an anomaly...he's an actor and arguably the best actor we've ever come across because he has been able to convince people that he is a leader, that he is religious, that he has morals, that he loves our country, etc.

Gern Blansten said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

benjs said:

brianlux said:

Anybody ever notice how angry and hostile Trump fans are these days, even after their crazy man won the election?  It's not surprising, really.  We all know what a shit show the next four years will be.  It's all just a game to the Dictator and his Ambassador of Chaos.  And many of the people who voted for him know or at least deep down know that they were duped, or at the very least are beginning to understand that.  But of course they won't admit it to anyone, least of all themselves.  So they do their best to keep pushing false narratives, and try their best to believe they made the right choice.   But eventually the cracks begin to show and they just get frustrated and angry.  

It would just be so much simpler to admit when you messed up and learn from the situation.  I've always found that's the best thing to do anyway.

And hey, let's be fair, everyone could use to do that.  Democrats could do better too.  The whole country is going down like the Titanic.  Its time to stop fucking around and get serious about righting this ship. 

1. People would rather be right than be righteous
2. Undue thought control can occur to anyone by appealing to various elements of a person (fear, racism, greed, wealth, homogeny in society, etc), and it's a fallacy that only the foolish can be fooled
3. Due to polarization, people have inherent distrust of those with other beliefs to their own, and discourse is limited to echo chambers or conversations with trolls, hence no minds are swayed
4. There is no desire to think long-term, nor is there political incentive to act in long-term ways
5. Corruption masks itself as stupidity, and stupidity masks itself as corruption. 

I don't believe there are cracks appearing, I believe this has been one of the best propaganda efforts probably since the Nazis, and it has worked on an alarming number of people. I'm a nihilist at this point, and don't feel you can fix widespread epidemics of apathy, greed, indecency, or corruption - especially when they're all present at the same time. 

We need to learn to enjoy our local lives, because as you zoom out to a global scale, problems become more unsolvable. At least locally, we have the illusion of some control, and can choose to move towards decency. 

PS - yes, I compared Trump's administration's behaviours to Nazis; and no, I don't care if anyone thinks that's an exaggeration

Agreed...my opinion is that trump is an anomaly...he's an actor and arguably the best actor we've ever come across because he has been able to convince people that he is a leader, that he is religious, that he has morals, that he loves our country, etc.

And that he’s “tough.” Because nothing says “tough” like snapping your suit jacket and pushing people out of the way. Plus, he’s the epitome of fitness. He had a doctor’s note stating such.

It's truly the "Dear Leader" fantasy...he's bald, fat, smells, probably incontinent, his wife has a totally separate sex life from him, fake teeth, fake bird's nest hair, pasty white yet is always bronze in public, etc.

Gern Blansten said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

benjs said:

brianlux said:

Anybody ever notice how angry and hostile Trump fans are these days, even after their crazy man won the election?  It's not surprising, really.  We all know what a shit show the next four years will be.  It's all just a game to the Dictator and his Ambassador of Chaos.  And many of the people who voted for him know or at least deep down know that they were duped, or at the very least are beginning to understand that.  But of course they won't admit it to anyone, least of all themselves.  So they do their best to keep pushing false narratives, and try their best to believe they made the right choice.   But eventually the cracks begin to show and they just get frustrated and angry.  

It would just be so much simpler to admit when you messed up and learn from the situation.  I've always found that's the best thing to do anyway.

And hey, let's be fair, everyone could use to do that.  Democrats could do better too.  The whole country is going down like the Titanic.  Its time to stop fucking around and get serious about righting this ship. 

1. People would rather be right than be righteous
2. Undue thought control can occur to anyone by appealing to various elements of a person (fear, racism, greed, wealth, homogeny in society, etc), and it's a fallacy that only the foolish can be fooled
3. Due to polarization, people have inherent distrust of those with other beliefs to their own, and discourse is limited to echo chambers or conversations with trolls, hence no minds are swayed
4. There is no desire to think long-term, nor is there political incentive to act in long-term ways
5. Corruption masks itself as stupidity, and stupidity masks itself as corruption. 

I don't believe there are cracks appearing, I believe this has been one of the best propaganda efforts probably since the Nazis, and it has worked on an alarming number of people. I'm a nihilist at this point, and don't feel you can fix widespread epidemics of apathy, greed, indecency, or corruption - especially when they're all present at the same time. 

We need to learn to enjoy our local lives, because as you zoom out to a global scale, problems become more unsolvable. At least locally, we have the illusion of some control, and can choose to move towards decency. 

PS - yes, I compared Trump's administration's behaviours to Nazis; and no, I don't care if anyone thinks that's an exaggeration

Agreed...my opinion is that trump is an anomaly...he's an actor and arguably the best actor we've ever come across because he has been able to convince people that he is a leader, that he is religious, that he has morals, that he loves our country, etc.

And that he’s “tough.” Because nothing says “tough” like snapping your suit jacket and pushing people out of the way. Plus, he’s the epitome of fitness. He had a doctor’s note stating such.

It's truly the "Dear Leader" fantasy...he's bald, fat, smells, probably incontinent, his wife has a totally separate sex life from him, fake teeth, fake bird's nest hair, pasty white yet is always bronze in public, etc.

benjs said:

brianlux said:

Anybody ever notice how angry and hostile Trump fans are these days, even after their crazy man won the election?  It's not surprising, really.  We all know what a shit show the next four years will be.  It's all just a game to the Dictator and his Ambassador of Chaos.  And many of the people who voted for him know or at least deep down know that they were duped, or at the very least are beginning to understand that.  But of course they won't admit it to anyone, least of all themselves.  So they do their best to keep pushing false narratives, and try their best to believe they made the right choice.   But eventually the cracks begin to show and they just get frustrated and angry.  

It would just be so much simpler to admit when you messed up and learn from the situation.  I've always found that's the best thing to do anyway.

And hey, let's be fair, everyone could use to do that.  Democrats could do better too.  The whole country is going down like the Titanic.  Its time to stop fucking around and get serious about righting this ship. 

1. People would rather be right than be righteous
2. Undue thought control can occur to anyone by appealing to various elements of a person (fear, racism, greed, wealth, homogeny in society, etc), and it's a fallacy that only the foolish can be fooled
3. Due to polarization, people have inherent distrust of those with other beliefs to their own, and discourse is limited to echo chambers or conversations with trolls, hence no minds are swayed
4. There is no desire to think long-term, nor is there political incentive to act in long-term ways
5. Corruption masks itself as stupidity, and stupidity masks itself as corruption. 

I don't believe there are cracks appearing, I believe this has been one of the best propaganda efforts probably since the Nazis, and it has worked on an alarming number of people. I'm a nihilist at this point, and don't feel you can fix widespread epidemics of apathy, greed, indecency, or corruption - especially when they're all present at the same time. 

We need to learn to enjoy our local lives, because as you zoom out to a global scale, problems become more unsolvable. At least locally, we have the illusion of some control, and can choose to move towards decency. 

PS - yes, I compared Trump's administration's behaviours to Nazis; and no, I don't care if anyone thinks that's an exaggeration