#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,189
    edited January 31
    industries such as these don't lower their standards to be able to hire everyone. They simply pledge to not discriminate against those who are qualified and aren't a white male, and encourage everyone to apply. That's it. That's all. Stop making it out to be more than it is. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,317
    If you’re planning on flying, you might want to check and see who’s in the cockpit because I’m going to fathom that 94% of plane crashes had a white person at the controls. You might want to turn around and head for the car rental counter.
    Have you seen how those white people drive though? Hard pass
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,317
    If you’re planning on flying, you might want to check and see who’s in the cockpit because I’m going to fathom that 94% of plane crashes had a white person at the controls. You might want to turn around and head for the car rental counter.
    Question:  Is it unreasonable to believe that people should be hired based on their qualifications?  I can understand trying to hire a diverse workforce.  I can understand that perspective and not vilify it.  But do you believe someone is racist or sexist if they do not agree or support DEI programs?  

    This question has nothing to do with this plane incident. 
    What underlies your question is that DEI leads to hiring unqualified people. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,500
    If you’re planning on flying, you might want to check and see who’s in the cockpit because I’m going to fathom that 94% of plane crashes had a white person at the controls. You might want to turn around and head for the car rental counter.
    Question:  Is it unreasonable to believe that people should be hired based on their qualifications?  I can understand trying to hire a diverse workforce.  I can understand that perspective and not vilify it.  But do you believe someone is racist or sexist if they do not agree or support DEI programs?  

    This question has nothing to do with this plane incident. 
    Do you believe DEI prevents people from being hired based on their qualifications?


    The Trump administration clearly does not like DEI programs yet has assembled what most considered to be the least qualified cabinet members in recent history. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,346
    If you’re planning on flying, you might want to check and see who’s in the cockpit because I’m going to fathom that 94% of plane crashes had a white person at the controls. You might want to turn around and head for the car rental counter.
    Question:  Is it unreasonable to believe that people should be hired based on their qualifications?  I can understand trying to hire a diverse workforce.  I can understand that perspective and not vilify it.  But do you believe someone is racist or sexist if they do not agree or support DEI programs?  

    This question has nothing to do with this plane incident. 
    Do you believe DEI prevents people from being hired based on their qualifications?


    The Trump administration clearly does not like DEI programs yet has assembled what most considered to be the least qualified cabinet members in recent history. 
    exactly....Gabbard, Patel, etc....are they really the best available for those positions? Or are they the few minorities selected?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,004

    People Will Die”: The Trump Administration Said It Lifted Its Ban on Lifesaving Humanitarian Aid. That’s Not True.

    Organizations that provide vital care for desperate and vulnerable people around the world have been forced to halt operations, turn away patients and lay off staff. “I’ve never seen anything that scares me as much as this,” one doctor said.

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    On Friday morning, the staffers at a half dozen U.S.-funded medical facilities in Sudan who care for severely malnourished children had a choice to make: Defy President Donald Trump’s order to immediately stop their operations or let up to 100 babies and toddlers die.

    They chose the children.

    In spite of the order, they will keep their facilities open for as long as they can, according to three people with direct knowledge of the situation. The people requested anonymity for fear that the administration might target their group for reprisals. Trump’s order also meant they would stop receiving new, previously approved funds to cover salaries, IV bags and other supplies. They said it’s a matter of days, not weeks, before they run out.

    American-funded aid organizations around the globe, charged with providing lifesaving care for the most desperate and vulnerable populations imaginable, have for days been forced to completely halt their operations, turn away patients and lay off staff following a series of sudden stop-work demands from the Trump administration. Despite an announcement earlier this week ostensibly allowing lifesaving operations to continue, those earlier orders have not been rescinded.

    Many groups doing such lifesaving work either don’t know the right way to request an exemption to the order, known as a waiver, or have no sense of where their request stands. They’ve received little information from the U.S. government, where, in recent days, humanitarian officials have been summarily ousted or prohibited from communicating with the aid organizations.


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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,106
    If you’re planning on flying, you might want to check and see who’s in the cockpit because I’m going to fathom that 94% of plane crashes had a white person at the controls. You might want to turn around and head for the car rental counter.
    Question:  Is it unreasonable to believe that people should be hired based on their qualifications?  I can understand trying to hire a diverse workforce.  I can understand that perspective and not vilify it.  But do you believe someone is racist or sexist if they do not agree or support DEI programs?  

    This question has nothing to do with this plane incident. 
    Not necessarily racist or sexist, but it's highly likely they are misinformed or purposely ignorant if they believe DEI = less qualified. Just because someone may turn out not to be a good fit/employee who is a minority class, doesn't then justify the assessment that DEI = unqualified, but that seems to be the narrative.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,004

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,224
    Hey anyone want to hazard a guess at what time the announcement of tariffs hit?  


  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,004
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,004
    edited January 31
    this feels like a" put up or shut up motherfucker " kinda statement. I like it.



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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,004
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,037
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,356
    It seems like our MAGA posters are either taking breaks or just posting stuff about Democrats. Not too much about the Great One over the last few days.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,224
    She looks 47 there
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,189
    and is it just me, or does she give off pretty strong "karen" vibes?
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,749
    OnWis97 said:
    It seems like our MAGA posters are either taking breaks or just posting stuff about Democrats. Not too much about the Great One over the last few days.
    All 2-3 are banned 
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,305
    mrussel1 said:
    Hey anyone want to hazard a guess at what time the announcement of tariffs hit?  


    It probably would’ve ripped to all time highs if he dialed back the threats. Instead he’ll be reigniting the inflation fire. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,770
    Thinking about a daily log to track the daily outrages of this admin....probably should just update post #1 accordingly.



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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,770
    OnWis97 said:
    It seems like our MAGA posters are either taking breaks or just posting stuff about Democrats. Not too much about the Great One over the last few days.

    I noticed that as well.  It's not surprising.  He's a total embarrassment and everyone knows it.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,004
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,739
    mrussel1 said:
    She looks 47 there
    Yikes! That’s uncalled for.

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  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,739
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    It seems like our MAGA posters are either taking breaks or just posting stuff about Democrats. Not too much about the Great One over the last few days.
    All 2-3 are banned 
    True. People flag posts if anyone disagrees. After so many flags people get banned. People here in the echo chamber flag post evertime because honest truthful discussions is dangerous…so thus why they go away.

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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,310
    edited February 1
    It's not since she's not on the correct team
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,317
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    It seems like our MAGA posters are either taking breaks or just posting stuff about Democrats. Not too much about the Great One over the last few days.
    All 2-3 are banned 
    True. People flag posts if anyone disagrees. After so many flags people get banned. People here in the echo chamber flag post evertime because honest truthful discussions is dangerous…so thus why they go away.
    Give it a whirl. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,093
    If you’re planning on flying, you might want to check and see who’s in the cockpit because I’m going to fathom that 94% of plane crashes had a white person at the controls. You might want to turn around and head for the car rental counter.
    Question:  Is it unreasonable to believe that people should be hired based on their qualifications?  I can understand trying to hire a diverse workforce.  I can understand that perspective and not vilify it.  But do you believe someone is racist or sexist if they do not agree or support DEI programs?  

    This question has nothing to do with this plane incident. 
    Do you believe DEI prevents people from being hired based on their qualifications?


    The Trump administration clearly does not like DEI programs yet has assembled what most considered to be the least qualified cabinet members in recent history. 
    I think some would say it isn’t inconceivable for a program with great intentions to result in hiring someone less qualified than another candidate to fill a quota.  

    The Dems will continue to lose elections when they label people as racist for not liking programs that target/benefit people by race (irony). People can disagree without being a racist.

    It is the same annoying thing with abortion.  Dems say pro lifers hate and want to control women, when perhaps they just feel strongly a fetus is a life.   Reps say pro choice people are murderers, when they don’t believe that a fetus is a human and want to prioritize the mother’s choice.  There is no room for reasoned debate, and it doesn’t help that Trump purposefully says the dumbest things to distract people.
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,739
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    It seems like our MAGA posters are either taking breaks or just posting stuff about Democrats. Not too much about the Great One over the last few days.
    All 2-3 are banned 
    True. People flag posts if anyone disagrees. After so many flags people get banned. People here in the echo chamber flag post evertime because honest truthful discussions is dangerous…so thus why they go away.
    Give it a whirl. 
    Still here?

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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,106
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    It seems like our MAGA posters are either taking breaks or just posting stuff about Democrats. Not too much about the Great One over the last few days.
    All 2-3 are banned 
    True. People flag posts if anyone disagrees. After so many flags people get banned. People here in the echo chamber flag post evertime because honest truthful discussions is dangerous…so thus why they go away.
    If they ever posed honest questions or truthful discussions. The few that have been on here just spew nonsense, post a meme, a press release or refuse to actually answer real questions. I've tried. Feel free to challenge statements or positions you disagree with on here. It's only an echo chamber if people don't challenge anything and just come on here to complain. It's ironic because the people usually calling it an echo chamber seem to be in the middle or slightly left leaning.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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