It's almost as if every headline and story are reacted to in a vacuum, and there's a complete and total absence of sincerity or seriousness behind any of it.
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
his issue with border security with canada makes no sense. we have more problems with guns coming in than the US has a problem with immigration or fentanyl. he's just blindly swinging at the pinata, hoping he gets some candy. he's a moron.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
his issue with border security with canada makes no sense. we have more problems with guns coming in than the US has a problem with immigration or fentanyl. he's just blindly swinging at the pinata, hoping he gets some candy. he's a moron.
Personally I wish he would tariff canada 50%. They've been on the tit long enough. Pay your own way.
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
Sorry, this is a terrible take away. What normally happens is the president and his team schedule a call/meeting with said country to discuss things, especially when they're currently your damn ally and trade partner. What Trump is trying to do, and has apparently succeeded in this case based on your response, is make it look like he forced Mexico and Canada to do something they were refusing so he had no choice. That is not the case. Under a normal presidency, these deals are announced after behind the scenes negotiations where both sides make concessions, but these clowns aren't normal so we get a reality TV situation instead. It's childish, immature and inefficient, which pretty much sums up his leadership style and explains why he has bankrupted so many business ventures.
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
This guy/gal gets it.
No, not all. Real leadership is hard and takes skill, strong communication, patience and integrity. The my dick is bigger than yours approach has an age old predictable ending. Those are the leaders that topple their countries.
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
his issue with border security with canada makes no sense. we have more problems with guns coming in than the US has a problem with immigration or fentanyl. he's just blindly swinging at the pinata, hoping he gets some candy. he's a moron.
Personally I wish he would tariff canada 50%. They've been on the tit long enough. Pay your own way.
It sounds like you’re just rehashing Trump’s made up stats about Canada. Care to elaborate what paying their own way means in this case?
I know there's lots to be happy about today what with so many libs being owned, but I feel like Elon & company getting access to the federal payment system on Friday is bad for everyone.
The problem with all of this is the reasoning for the tariffs were bullshit to begin with. He talked about fentanyl coming in from Canada...which is not really a huge issue to begin with. And then with Mexico....as we all know he actually does not care about the border issue as he killed the first meaningful bipartisan immigration bill we've had in decades last year. And since Biden's EO, border crossings have come down dramatically.
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
Sorry, this is a terrible take away. What normally happens is the president and his team schedule a call/meeting with said country to discuss things, especially when they're currently your damn ally and trade partner. What Trump is trying to do, and has apparently succeeded in this case based on your response, is make it look like he forced Mexico and Canada to do something they were refusing so he had no choice. That is not the case. Under a normal presidency, these deals are announced after behind the scenes negotiations where both sides make concessions, but these clowns aren't normal so we get a reality TV situation instead. It's childish, immature and inefficient, which pretty much sums up his leadership style and explains why he has bankrupted so many business ventures.
Right because the traditional paths always lead to a bilateral understanding with equal investment in a quick and efficient matter. They do not. As I said it is a tricky discussion. And anyone who thinks that the Chinese are not taking advantage of the relaxed import/export rules with Canada are being naive. It is much easier to get things into the US from Canada than it is from Mexico. That is just a fact. And they have been exploiting the de minimis import rules since 2018. This is not reality TV, this is reality. Nothing gets accomplished through traditional political processes and Trump is pushing the boundaries of Presidential power instead of the traditional handshaking and photo opps, which more like reality TV than what is happening.
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
So you don't think the trade ministers in Canada and Mexico or the Wall Street traders know anything about tariffs?
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
So you don't think the trade ministers in Canada and Mexico or the Wall Street traders know anything about tariffs?
I cannot speak to Wall Street, that is outside my expertise. Of course the trade ministers in Canada and Mexico know about tariffs. I suspect they anticipated a soft approach from the US, even with Trump as President. I suspect the same is true for the multinational companies that conduct business in Canada, but especially Mexico. Perhaps the lobby from those multinationals also had something to do with the 30 day delay, pushing on both Mexico and the US.
Anyone who knows anything about tariffs knows that these were veiled threats to instigate some response from the named countries. If Mexico actually does anything to increase border security then I guess it could be called a success. I expect a similar response from Canada. If these tariff threats actually get Canada and Mexico to allocate resources to border security, I guess that is a good thing, even if it comes with political bravado. It is a tricky discussion. The real question is what will he do about China. That is where a real trade war could take place.
Sorry, this is a terrible take away. What normally happens is the president and his team schedule a call/meeting with said country to discuss things, especially when they're currently your damn ally and trade partner. What Trump is trying to do, and has apparently succeeded in this case based on your response, is make it look like he forced Mexico and Canada to do something they were refusing so he had no choice. That is not the case. Under a normal presidency, these deals are announced after behind the scenes negotiations where both sides make concessions, but these clowns aren't normal so we get a reality TV situation instead. It's childish, immature and inefficient, which pretty much sums up his leadership style and explains why he has bankrupted so many business ventures.
And it erodes trust. Who the fuck in their right mind would trust the US? Don’t share intelligence with the US, it might end up in a bathroom in Mar-I-Lieo. Treaties? Fuck that, they’re meant to be broken. Trust a POTUS who spews 8+ falsities a day? C’mon, man! COOTWH is successfully pointing other countries toward Chiiiiiiiina and Putin on the ritz. The UK and EU will be less likely to partner with ‘Murica with the idiot in chief in charge.
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You want to be taken seriously here, right? Holy shit.
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It's manufactured drama yet again.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/02/nx-s1-5283957/fentanyl-trump-tariffs-china-canada-mexico
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Right because the traditional paths always lead to a bilateral understanding with equal investment in a quick and efficient matter. They do not. As I said it is a tricky discussion. And anyone who thinks that the Chinese are not taking advantage of the relaxed import/export rules with Canada are being naive. It is much easier to get things into the US from Canada than it is from Mexico. That is just a fact. And they have been exploiting the de minimis import rules since 2018. This is not reality TV, this is reality. Nothing gets accomplished through traditional political processes and Trump is pushing the boundaries of Presidential power instead of the traditional handshaking and photo opps, which more like reality TV than what is happening.
I cannot speak to Wall Street, that is outside my expertise. Of course the trade ministers in Canada and Mexico know about tariffs. I suspect they anticipated a soft approach from the US, even with Trump as President. I suspect the same is true for the multinational companies that conduct business in Canada, but especially Mexico. Perhaps the lobby from those multinationals also had something to do with the 30 day delay, pushing on both Mexico and the US.
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