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  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,899
    Go Animal said:
    Get_Right said:
    I do not do GA anymore. But give me better seats! The rail people will do what they do. I am ok with it as long as they do not exclude fans to be there. No saving spots. The idea of a rail gang, which happens with some bands, is not cool. In fact I would hope that folks would want to share that experience with new people. 
    There is spot saving. People taking extended breaks at their hotel to wash up, have a bite, and sometimes take care of work! Every single show. I know because they let me do it at REDACTED (and it was much appreciated).
    It's all self-governed.
    And yes, they do let the occasional friend in who DIDN'T put in the time, but only when doors are about to open. No one speaks up about it in line, because the hardcores are at virtually EVERY show.
    A few guys (names withheld) help keep a list (not every time, only when needed). When rules are enforced by a venue (like Vegas), they make sure everyone is on the same page as to when/if they have to disperse, that they'll line up in the same order they were in before said line is moved (or dissolved).
    There's also PJ crew who are friendly with them, considering the amount of time spent together. I mean, I get it.
    I'm not entirely against it, I just think everyone should be upfront about it at this point. Like "yeah, we do this. Like it, or don't. Join us, and put in the early arrival time, watch our spot & we'll watch yours."
    Why try & pretend it's not a thing anymore? We all see it every show. Meanwhile, 10C & the band turn a blind eye to it. And why not, really? They're still getting paid ;)
    All great points. And to be honest, the band communicates warnings likely to check the box of appeasing venues, knowing fully that fans will do whatever. And the fans who do put in the time & effort get rewarded (featured in the Let's Play Two film, shoutouts at shows make it to bootlegs, tossing picks/tambourines, etc).

    A majority of times I lined up for GA early have been pretty tame - most people know the time spent to grab their spots, hold them for each other, and police their area of the floor if people are trying to push through. 
  • given2flym
    given2flym Posts: 125
    spankyMP said:
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Bottom line is, the majority of fans and the BAND would love more variety up front. That said, I'm good five people deep in front of Mike after pre-gaming on my own schedule and strolling in about 30 minutes before showtime.
    I don’t think the band has indicated this anywhere but any fan is welcome to line up for GA as its first come first serve. My first GA was San Diego 22 and I didn’t know anyone and just got in line. It was really that simple, no one made me feel unwelcome because I was new. 
    They literally implemented the 1,2, 9,10 random rule for this purpose and then went back to GA, come on man.
    Yeah when it’s seniority back in the day they did 1/2/9/10 to prevent the same faces who often looked bored during shows. 

    Now it’s GA, anyone who gets GA can get up front, and look at that, the band seems quite happy with this set up as they’ve rolled with it for going on 12-13 years now. And. Again. It’s fair in that everyone has the same shot to be up front. Do a bit of reading and research pre-show and you, too, can be on the rail. Come on man. 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    Go Animal said:
    Get_Right said:
    Go Animal said:
    Get_Right said:
    I do not do GA anymore. But give me better seats! The rail people will do what they do. I am ok with it as long as they do not exclude fans to be there. No saving spots. The idea of a rail gang, which happens with some bands, is not cool. In fact I would hope that folks would want to share that experience with new people. 
    There is spot saving. People taking extended breaks at their hotel to wash up, have a bite, and sometimes take care of work! Every single show. I know because they let me do it at REDACTED (and it was much appreciated).
    It's all self-governed.
    And yes, they do let the occasional friend in who DIDN'T put in the time, but only when doors are about to open. No one speaks up about it in line, because the hardcores are at virtually EVERY show.
    A few guys (names withheld) help keep a list (not every time, only when needed). When rules are enforced by a venue (like Vegas), they make sure everyone is on the same page as to when/if they have to disperse, that they'll line up in the same order they were in before said line is moved (or dissolved).
    There's also PJ crew who are friendly with them, considering the amount of time spent together. I mean, I get it.
    I'm not entirely against it, I just think everyone should be upfront about it at this point. Like "yeah, we do this. Like it, or don't. Join us, and put in the early arrival time, watch our spot & we'll watch yours."
    Why try & pretend it's not a thing anymore? We all see it every show. Meanwhile, 10C & the band turn a blind eye to it. And why not, really? They're still getting paid ;)

    The issue is that not everyone in that group is friendly and kind. Keeping a list exactly what the band spoke about. And it is not the occasional friend. It is holding spots. It is not fair to those that did put in the time. And to be clear I do not really care, I prefer my reserved seats. 
    Don't worry, I'm not thrilled about what goes on, either. It's not fair at all. But no one seems to be doing anything about it, so they might as well be transparent.
    And I love a good seat. MSG 2 was terrific. As well as Austin N1, and a whole slew of others.
    But like @on2legs said, I would love a random chance opportunity for all involved. Would keep things fresh & lively, and allow for some fans who have kids (or obligations to them) to get up to the rail, when they have no way of doing so for the show they're going to.
    And if they bring the kid? BOOM. Instant tambourine, lol.


    I was happy with my P2 seats for MSG 2. The sound sucked. Not sure what is more annoying, the line lists or the use of kids for a tambourine. 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    edited December 2024
    pjl44 said:
    Go Animal said:
    Get_Right said:
    Go Animal said:
    Get_Right said:
    I do not do GA anymore. But give me better seats! The rail people will do what they do. I am ok with it as long as they do not exclude fans to be there. No saving spots. The idea of a rail gang, which happens with some bands, is not cool. In fact I would hope that folks would want to share that experience with new people. 
    There is spot saving. People taking extended breaks at their hotel to wash up, have a bite, and sometimes take care of work! Every single show. I know because they let me do it at REDACTED (and it was much appreciated).
    It's all self-governed.
    And yes, they do let the occasional friend in who DIDN'T put in the time, but only when doors are about to open. No one speaks up about it in line, because the hardcores are at virtually EVERY show.
    A few guys (names withheld) help keep a list (not every time, only when needed). When rules are enforced by a venue (like Vegas), they make sure everyone is on the same page as to when/if they have to disperse, that they'll line up in the same order they were in before said line is moved (or dissolved).
    There's also PJ crew who are friendly with them, considering the amount of time spent together. I mean, I get it.
    I'm not entirely against it, I just think everyone should be upfront about it at this point. Like "yeah, we do this. Like it, or don't. Join us, and put in the early arrival time, watch our spot & we'll watch yours."
    Why try & pretend it's not a thing anymore? We all see it every show. Meanwhile, 10C & the band turn a blind eye to it. And why not, really? They're still getting paid ;)

    The issue is that not everyone in that group is friendly and kind. Keeping a list exactly what the band spoke about. And it is not the occasional friend. It is holding spots. It is not fair to those that did put in the time. And to be clear I do not really care, I prefer my reserved seats. 
    Don't worry, I'm not thrilled about what goes on, either. It's not fair at all. But no one seems to be doing anything about it, so they might as well be transparent.
    And I love a good seat. MSG 2 was terrific. As well as Austin N1, and a whole slew of others.
    But like @on2legs said, I would love a random chance opportunity for all involved. Would keep things fresh & lively, and allow for some fans who have kids (or obligations to them) to get up to the rail, when they have no way of doing so for the show they're going to.
    And if they bring the kid? BOOM. Instant tambourine, lol.
    I hereby grant you whistleblower immunity 
    Bless.
    (I'm gonna need it, lol. But IDGAF what they think. I've done several favors/GA drops for some of them with no reciprocation. I'd rather help out a PJ newb, or someone who's never gotten up there at this point.)
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  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    spankyMP said:
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Bottom line is, the majority of fans and the BAND would love more variety up front. That said, I'm good five people deep in front of Mike after pre-gaming on my own schedule and strolling in about 30 minutes before showtime.
    I don’t think the band has indicated this anywhere but any fan is welcome to line up for GA as its first come first serve. My first GA was San Diego 22 and I didn’t know anyone and just got in line. It was really that simple, no one made me feel unwelcome because I was new. 
    They literally implemented the 1,2, 9,10 random rule for this purpose and then went back to GA, come on man.
    Exactly, they went back to GA and it’s been that way for years. Which to me indicates the band doesn’t want this to change as the person I replied to suggested. I don’t understand what you’re getting at here. 
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,253
    BV84003 said:
    Bless Chrissie's heart, but if someone wants to put in the time, energy, money, etc. to be as close as possible, they have every right to do that. At least PJ makes it exceptionally difficult for someone to be rail at every show.

    Compare this model to something like Tori Amos where she literally has her front row reserved for the people that follow her around and see the majority of shows on the tour, mostly to ensure she isn't going to have people up front just taking selfies and leaving for beer trips all night long.

    Just about anything an artist does to dissuade, encourage or even control who's up front is always going to generate controversy and bitterness, because someone's inevitably going to feel slighted.

    And then they probably do go on beer runs because they've already heard that song 20 times.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,253
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Bottom line is, the majority of fans and the BAND would love more variety up front. That said, I'm good five people deep in front of Mike after pre-gaming on my own schedule and strolling in about 30 minutes before showtime.
    I don’t think the band has indicated this anywhere but any fan is welcome to line up for GA as its first come first serve. My first GA was San Diego 22 and I didn’t know anyone and just got in line. It was really that simple, no one made me feel unwelcome because I was new. 
    They literally implemented the 1,2, 9,10 random rule for this purpose and then went back to GA, come on man.
    Exactly, they went back to GA and it’s been that way for years. Which to me indicates the band doesn’t want this to change as the person I replied to suggested. I don’t understand what you’re getting at here. 

    2013 was the first time with USA GA since 1998, right?
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  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    darwinstheory said:

    As far as shenanigans, I know for Vancouver 2, I lined up about 2pm. I was shocked at how few people were there in line. I had to verify it was in fact the GA line. Well, that number changed significantly but the time the line moved up near the entrance. I'd guess nearly 30-40% of the people in front of me, weren't there at 2pm when I got in line.
    Between 2-3pm or 3-4pm is when most people who have been camping or those who were there since early in the morning take their chairs/tents/supplies back to their hotel or cars. 

    The GA line for Vancouver was super short and I was in it, and there’s no way 30-40% of the people in front of you materialized for the first time ever after 2pm. And I’m talking about what goes on in the first 1-15 spots since the original intent of this post was about the people who are seen at a lot of or most shows. Idk what happens further back. 
  • bootleg
    bootleg Posts: 1,209
    Really wish they would do away with GA and do the randomized rows again.  Heck do the first 5 rows randomized.  It really is the same people up front all the time to the point where one guy was concerned that he wasn’t going to get his “normal” spot in Baltimore because there were more people in front of him than normal.  It’s just not healthy to camp out all day/overnight and then stand in a tight spot for the next 5 hours after doors open.  And for those that say it doesn’t affect me so let them do whatever they want, it does end up affecting us all because how many shows had to be interrupted this year due to someone passing out in the crowd?  That’s the type of stuff that happens when you sit in the sun all day with little sleep, and then stand in one place.  Especially since we’re all getting older.
  • BV84003
    BV84003 Holt, MI Posts: 478
    Lost In Ohio said:
    BV84003 said:
    Bless Chrissie's heart, but if someone wants to put in the time, energy, money, etc. to be as close as possible, they have every right to do that. At least PJ makes it exceptionally difficult for someone to be rail at every show.

    Compare this model to something like Tori Amos where she literally has her front row reserved for the people that follow her around and see the majority of shows on the tour, mostly to ensure she isn't going to have people up front just taking selfies and leaving for beer trips all night long.

    Just about anything an artist does to dissuade, encourage or even control who's up front is always going to generate controversy and bitterness, because someone's inevitably going to feel slighted.

    And then they probably do go on beer runs because they've already heard that song 20 times.
    That was definitely a hot topic when various people were doing that on one tour. It's far easier to curb that when it's only anywhere from like 10-20 people most nights in the front row of a theatre and everyone's gonna see you do it. That's precisely how you ensure you don't get put on the list again, too lol
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    The chair people didn't take the chairs back until 4-4:30. Shortly before the line moved up the steps. There were a boat load of empty chairs in the GA line when I walked up. How long they were empty? I have no clue. But there were more empty chairs than occupied when I got there. Then it filled up. Then people (understandably) took their chairs back sometime after 4 and before the line was moved up the stairs.
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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    For the record, not everyone is like this in GA. There's some good eggs down there: PJNB, SHZA, Steven87, 100Pacer, on2legs, danlee1095, jojorice among others (sorry if I didn't name you, this is just off the top of my head).
    SHZA & Pacer combined probably have a decade's amount of airline/hotel miles from F2F hunting alone, lol. Respect.
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  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    Go Animal said:
    Get_Right said:
    I do not do GA anymore. But give me better seats! The rail people will do what they do. I am ok with it as long as they do not exclude fans to be there. No saving spots. The idea of a rail gang, which happens with some bands, is not cool. In fact I would hope that folks would want to share that experience with new people. 
    There is spot saving. People taking extended breaks at their hotel to wash up, have a bite, and sometimes take care of work! Every single show. I know because they let me do it at REDACTED (and it was much appreciated).
    It's all self-governed.
    And yes, they do let the occasional friend in who DIDN'T put in the time, but only when doors are about to open. No one speaks up about it in line, because the hardcores are at virtually EVERY show.
    A few guys (names withheld) help keep a list (not every time, only when needed). When rules are enforced by a venue (like Vegas), they make sure everyone is on the same page as to when/if they have to disperse, that they'll line up in the same order they were in before said line is moved (or dissolved).
    There's also PJ crew who are friendly with them, considering the amount of time spent together. I mean, I get it.
    I'm not entirely against it, I just think everyone should be upfront about it at this point. Like "yeah, we do this. Like it, or don't. Join us, and put in the early arrival time, watch our spot & we'll watch yours."
    Why try & pretend it's not a thing anymore? We all see it every show. Meanwhile, 10C & the band turn a blind eye to it. And why not, really? They're still getting paid ;)
    Name names then, I’m at a lot of shows so I’d like to know who you’re calling out if this is happening where the “hardcores” let friends into the line who weren’t there. 

    Yes hardcores leave to go to the bathroom, get food, or take a shower. People who didn’t camp do the same thing. If we’re to the point where it’s unfair if people are only there for 46 of the 48 hours then alright, complain to the 10c. 
  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,019
    given2flym said:
    spankyMP said:
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Bottom line is, the majority of fans and the BAND would love more variety up front. That said, I'm good five people deep in front of Mike after pre-gaming on my own schedule and strolling in about 30 minutes before showtime.
    I don’t think the band has indicated this anywhere but any fan is welcome to line up for GA as its first come first serve. My first GA was San Diego 22 and I didn’t know anyone and just got in line. It was really that simple, no one made me feel unwelcome because I was new. 
    They literally implemented the 1,2, 9,10 random rule for this purpose and then went back to GA, come on man.
    Yeah when it’s seniority back in the day they did 1/2/9/10 to prevent the same faces who often looked bored during shows. 

    Now it’s GA, anyone who gets GA can get up front, and look at that, the band seems quite happy with this set up as they’ve rolled with it for going on 12-13 years now. And. Again. It’s fair in that everyone has the same shot to be up front. Do a bit of reading and research pre-show and you, too, can be on the rail. Come on man. 
    :lol: Settle down. I get right where I want, jeesh it's a discussion.
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  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,019
    edited December 2024
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Bottom line is, the majority of fans and the BAND would love more variety up front. That said, I'm good five people deep in front of Mike after pre-gaming on my own schedule and strolling in about 30 minutes before showtime.
    I don’t think the band has indicated this anywhere but any fan is welcome to line up for GA as its first come first serve. My first GA was San Diego 22 and I didn’t know anyone and just got in line. It was really that simple, no one made me feel unwelcome because I was new. 
    They literally implemented the 1,2, 9,10 random rule for this purpose and then went back to GA, come on man.
    Exactly, they went back to GA and it’s been that way for years. Which to me indicates the band doesn’t want this to change as the person I replied to suggested. I don’t understand what you’re getting at here. 
    I'm just taking part in the discussion. You said the band never said something and I pointed out that they actually did. All good.
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  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    Go Animal said:
    For the record, not everyone is like this in GA. There's some good eggs down there: PJNB, SHZA, Steven87, 100Pacer, on2legs, danlee1095, jojorice among others (sorry if I didn't name you, this is just off the top of my head).
    SHZA & Pacer combined probably have a decade's amount of airline/hotel miles from F2F hunting alone, lol. Respect.
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  • given2flym
    given2flym Posts: 125
    spankyMP said:
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Bottom line is, the majority of fans and the BAND would love more variety up front. That said, I'm good five people deep in front of Mike after pre-gaming on my own schedule and strolling in about 30 minutes before showtime.
    I don’t think the band has indicated this anywhere but any fan is welcome to line up for GA as its first come first serve. My first GA was San Diego 22 and I didn’t know anyone and just got in line. It was really that simple, no one made me feel unwelcome because I was new. 
    They literally implemented the 1,2, 9,10 random rule for this purpose and then went back to GA, come on man.
    Exactly, they went back to GA and it’s been that way for years. Which to me indicates the band doesn’t want this to change as the person I replied to suggested. I don’t understand what you’re getting at here. 
    I'm just taking part in the discussion. You said the band never said something and I pointed out that the actually did. All good.
    I’m quite settled. Thanks for checking in. I was merely pointing out that you were referencing a time when seats were assigned and it was by seniority. And literally the same people were up front. Now it’s a free for all and anyone can be up front. And while there’s a good amount of the same people in the first row or two, it’s fun to say it’s “all the same people” but it’s not. And the people who are up there all the time want it bad and generally bring tons of energy. As do the people who are there for the first time. Under this set up, if you’re up front, you really have to want it to make it happen. And I think the band appreciates that type of dedication and energy. 
  • danofun
    danofun Posts: 1,301
    edited December 2024
    I've been in GA a few times recently but never near the rail. Here's an email sent to GA ticket holders this past fall. The 10C, and by proxy the band, has very clearly stated what they believe:

    A note from Ten Club. The GA line is first-come, first-served. In the past, fans have used their own fan created numbering system to save a place in line. The numbering system will not be tolerated. We have seen fans abuse this in the past, therefore the numbering system will not be tolerated. Anyone participating in this fan created queueing system will be sent to the back of the line. It is the Ten Club’s position that those that put in the time to wait in the GA line all day should be the first in the door.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,781
    danofun said:
     It is the Ten Club’s position that those that put in the time to wait in the GA line all day should be the first in the door.
    There you go. 
  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    given2flym said:
    spankyMP said:
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Chrrie said:
    spankyMP said:
    Bottom line is, the majority of fans and the BAND would love more variety up front. That said, I'm good five people deep in front of Mike after pre-gaming on my own schedule and strolling in about 30 minutes before showtime.
    I don’t think the band has indicated this anywhere but any fan is welcome to line up for GA as its first come first serve. My first GA was San Diego 22 and I didn’t know anyone and just got in line. It was really that simple, no one made me feel unwelcome because I was new. 
    They literally implemented the 1,2, 9,10 random rule for this purpose and then went back to GA, come on man.
    Exactly, they went back to GA and it’s been that way for years. Which to me indicates the band doesn’t want this to change as the person I replied to suggested. I don’t understand what you’re getting at here. 
    I'm just taking part in the discussion. You said the band never said something and I pointed out that the actually did. All good.
    I’m quite settled. Thanks for checking in. I was merely pointing out that you were referencing a time when seats were assigned and it was by seniority. And literally the same people were up front. Now it’s a free for all and anyone can be up front. And while there’s a good amount of the same people in the first row or two, it’s fun to say it’s “all the same people” but it’s not. And the people who are up there all the time want it bad and generally bring tons of energy. As do the people who are there for the first time. Under this set up, if you’re up front, you really have to want it to make it happen. And I think the band appreciates that type of dedication and energy. 
    You don’t have to just think it, Ed says as much and it’s on the bootlegs. Ohana this year being the last I remember of him pointing out how he appreciates these people. So I will comment when I see someone say the band is sick of the same faces. They can instantly change this with a lottery if it were true. 

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