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  • BigRedd
    BigRedd Posts: 113
    Merkin Baller said:
    BigRedd said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Yeah, I don't know...It's not for me, but I don't look down on the people that do it. 

    They aren't hurting anyone... suggesting it's selfish or toxic / unhealthy behavior seems a bit much, all things considered. 
    Strongly disagree. 

    Have you been apart of this group for any period of time? It's an unhealthy obsession that 10C feeds into. I have so many stories about how crazy it gets up there its not even funny. Such odd behaviour it makes me uncomfortable to even talk to some of them knowing what they do.

    I have, and I'm unfamiliar with the behavior you're describing. I know at least one person who camps out for the rail, and I'm quite confident this person isn't hurting or taking anything away from anyone else. 
    Nobody is saying they are all like that. 

    I also assume your friend was not one of the ones that did almost all shows last year on the rail in 3 different continents. 

  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    All of my experiences in the Pit have been great (only 5 times though), all the people around very nice.  Though I've never camped out overnight to be rail, I've been right behind the people on the rail 4 times.  Yes it is mostly the same people, but from my experience there wasn't any shadiness....just people that love the band and rail and put the time in.  I hope that is truly the case.
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    It doesn't really impact me.   Other than I want to know how they pull off getting GA so consistently.   When I've scored GA I usually show up at doors and get a pretty good spot, but I don't have it in me to lineup for an excessive amount of time.  It seemed so much harder to get GA on this tour, maybe because people had to opt out, rather than opt in?  No one I knew won GA for the Vancouver shows which was a first :(
  • Ryan
    Ryan Posts: 1,222
    It’s super weird but when I get GA I’m happy to walk in for when the opening band goes on, be approximately 5-10 feet behind these people that have spent all day (and sometimes the day prior) while I’ve spent my time exploring a city.  If I were in a band I’d rather my fans go spend time seeing a city than camped on a sidewalk but what do I know?  I’m also perfectly happy landing side stage seats through ticket drops a day or two before the show. 

    Not sure if Springsteen still does the GA lottery still but I think it’s the best way to do things.  Say there are 1000 tickets for GA.  You present your ticket at box office day of show and get a random number between 1 and 1000.  The venue draws a number at 3 or 4 pm.  Say it’s 640 that is drawn, the person with that number is first in line, 641 is second, etc.
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  • BigRedd
    BigRedd Posts: 113
    edited December 2024
    cincybearcat said:
    All of my experiences in the Pit have been great (only 5 times though), all the people around very nice.  Though I've never camped out overnight to be rail, I've been right behind the people on the rail 4 times.  Yes it is mostly the same people, but from my experience there wasn't any shadiness....just people that love the band and rail and put the time in.  I hope that is truly the case.
    You are not a threat if you are behind them. The fun begins when you camp out or are close to getting a rail spot ahead of them. 
  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,109
    as long as they're getting GA fair and square, I am not bothered. It takes time and effort for these people who do it every show. Time and effort that i am not willing to put in 
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  • tylermoore
    tylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 1,113
    BigRedd said:
    It is not normal or healthy behaviour at all. They do it so they can get that one special moment from Eddie. It's so crazy to watch them fight for his attention.

    Also we have grown adults leaving shows early so they can sleep on a curb for two more nights. I have seen people running in airports trying to get ahead of other people catching a cab to the venue. Its absolute bonkers. 

    Do away with this set up that feeds these peoples toxic behaviour. 

    Ed seems to love it though and feeds into the craziness 
    If they all like doing it, how is it toxic? Because you don’t do it? 
    Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s crazy too. Toxic is a bit dramatic. 
    If they are all mean to each other, making it personal. But from what I know it’s almost just like a game to them. No harm done. 
  • jwhjr17
    jwhjr17 Posts: 2,077
    Kwieneke said:
    as long as they're getting GA fair and square, I am not bothered. It takes time and effort for these people who do it every show. Time and effort that i am not willing to put in 
    This is the question.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,189
    I think it's weird but it doesn't bother me too much. I don't like the idea of a group allowing others in the group to line jump, etc. That's bullshit.

    I benefitted from the row 10 lottery and loved it. 10 rows back in seats was perfect but I get why the band probably prefers GA for the crowd
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  • jwhjr17
    jwhjr17 Posts: 2,077
    SVRDhand13 said:
    Get_Right said:
    I do not do GA anymore. But give me better seats! The rail people will do what they do. I am ok with it as long as they do not exclude fans to be there. No saving spots. The idea of a rail gang, which happens with some bands, is not cool. In fact I would hope that folks would want to share that experience with new people. 
    I unfortunately learned long ago that there are several crews of people who help each other skip the line. Regulars you may see posting here and on FB.  Lost a lot of respect for some people through the years.  
    Yes!
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,531
    Look, at one point they felt compelled to make this post so you have to at least acknowledge that SOME moderately poor behavior has been going down 

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/271970/there-is-no-list-number-system-for-10c-ga-lines/p1
  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,109
    jwhjr17 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    as long as they're getting GA fair and square, I am not bothered. It takes time and effort for these people who do it every show. Time and effort that i am not willing to put in 
    This is the question.
    yeah thats been my fear. It makes me nervous to even be in GA because I am a pretty passive person in those settings. I just want to have fun and I don't want to argue over who gets to stand where 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,531
    Kwieneke said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    as long as they're getting GA fair and square, I am not bothered. It takes time and effort for these people who do it every show. Time and effort that i am not willing to put in 
    This is the question.
    yeah thats been my fear. It makes me nervous to even be in GA because I am a pretty passive person in those settings. I just want to have fun and I don't want to argue over who gets to stand where 
    It's totally fine. Great time, even.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    I don't condone one person holding a spot for a group that's going to cut in front of others who have been putting in the time... f those people. If that's happening at a lot of shows, I hadn't heard all that much about it. 

    Outside of that, I have zero problem with how long anyone wants to camp out to get up front. That other people don't have that time to put in isn't any reason that these people shouldn't. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    edited December 2024
    pjl44 said:
    Look, at one point they felt compelled to make this post so you have to at least acknowledge that SOME moderately poor behavior has been going down 

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/271970/there-is-no-list-number-system-for-10c-ga-lines/p1
    Fair point.
     Kwieneke said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    as long as they're getting GA fair and square, I am not bothered. It takes time and effort for these people who do it every show. Time and effort that i am not willing to put in 
    This is the question.
    yeah thats been my fear. It makes me nervous to even be in GA because I am a pretty passive person in those settings. I just want to have fun and I don't want to argue over who gets to stand where 
    Fenway 1 this year was my first GA experience since 2013... I went in 20 minutes before the band took the stage and was about 10 people deep on Stone's side... it was a blast, there was no tension whatsoever. 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,959
    edited December 2024
    Plenty of “chat and cut” going on at the GA and Merch lines.  

    https://youtu.be/Vd7XO18qxJg?si=GIRmENB7phCwbSIX


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  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,019
    jwhjr17 said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    Get_Right said:
    I do not do GA anymore. But give me better seats! The rail people will do what they do. I am ok with it as long as they do not exclude fans to be there. No saving spots. The idea of a rail gang, which happens with some bands, is not cool. In fact I would hope that folks would want to share that experience with new people. 
    I unfortunately learned long ago that there are several crews of people who help each other skip the line. Regulars you may see posting here and on FB.  Lost a lot of respect for some people through the years.  
    Yes!
    Bingo!
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  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    jwhjr17 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    as long as they're getting GA fair and square, I am not bothered. It takes time and effort for these people who do it every show. Time and effort that i am not willing to put in 
    This is the question.
    As someone in that group I can assure you that we all spend as much or more time refreshing TM as anyone. 
  • BigRedd
    BigRedd Posts: 113
    Chrrie said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    as long as they're getting GA fair and square, I am not bothered. It takes time and effort for these people who do it every show. Time and effort that i am not willing to put in 
    This is the question.
    As someone in that group I can assure you that we all spend as much or more time refreshing TM as anyone. 
    Are you telling me there is no bracelet sharing or sneaking people in going on? Seriously lol. 
  • jwhjr17
    jwhjr17 Posts: 2,077
    Chrrie said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    as long as they're getting GA fair and square, I am not bothered. It takes time and effort for these people who do it every show. Time and effort that i am not willing to put in 
    This is the question.
    As someone in that group I can assure you that we all spend as much or more time refreshing TM as anyone. 
    It's not a question of whether or not that group has GA tickets.  I've had GA tickets many times, not difficult to get.
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