The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread
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 I’m 229. Seats are solid but nearly as good as before. Austin was awful.. comparatively speakingDB78510 said:I haven't been to a show in like twelve, thirteen years. Is 219xxx likely to get good seats now?
 Seem to remember having good seats for the last show I went to but not as good as previous tours.0
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 ChatGPT has spoken:SVRDhand13 said:
 Looks to be a lot more than 150 to me. Still small though.tylerj said:PJNB said:Wonder how many in the pit for Hollywood
 Based on the photo on this page, not a whole lot! Maybe 150? https://casino.hardrock.com/hollywood/entertainment/hard-rock-live/hard-rock-live-faqTo estimate how many general admission attendees could fit in the semi-circular gray area in front of the stage, we need to consider the size of the area relative to known objects (like the seats) and typical general admission (GA) crowd densities. Here are the steps for a rough estimation: - Estimate the area size: - Using the seating rows as a reference, approximate the radius of the semi-circular area.
- Assume standard spacing in such venues (~18-22 inches per seat).
 
- Crowd density: - GA areas typically fit 2-3 people per square meter under comfortable conditions.
 
 I'll calculate the approximate area and attendee capacity based on these assumptions. The estimated semi-circular area in front of the stage is approximately 628 square meters. - At a comfortable crowd density (2 people per square meter), it could fit about 1,257 attendees.
- At a tighter crowd density (3 people per square meter), it could fit up to 1,885 attendees.
 These numbers are estimates based on typical crowd densities and the approximate size of the area.  0
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 My conspiracy theory is that it doesn't seem like 10c has pre-determined seats anymore. It used to be that 10c had designated sections. Now it seems like they have scattered seats all over the arena. Often grouped together in rows or parts of sections but all over the arena. But I think they determine the exact seats 10c has after ticket winners are assigned. So if you have a high # certainly >400k they just dump you in the upper deck. It's not like it used to be as recently as the original 2020 draw, where if a show is super under-subscribed or fewer low #s entered your seats would move up because 10c had a predetermined ticket allocation up front.jwc6160 said:I know it's not common knowledge, but what is a "high number" these days? I'm at about 10 years so I know my number is high, but I know a lot of people have dropped off over the years so it's really hard to evaluate. I've gotten decent tickets and bad. I also haven't sat in my allocated seat the past 4-5 tours and have upgraded via F2F but I absolutely hate playing the game so I almost always just put in for seats.Post edited by JBob87 on0
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            Alright folks, my wife is asking me to use her card for my entry to she can hit her AMEX promotion (haha I know I know).
 Ive always used me own cards. Has anyone used spouses card in lotto without issue?0
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 Funny, I saw $185 and thought, damn that's not badDragonsAfter3or4 said:Have fun all. For 185 bucks a pop for Nashville before even fees.. I'm good. Appears my 30 plus years of concerts are a comin to an end.Hopefully Bourbon and Beyond has a good lineup this year. If not...so be it.Mansfield 6/30/08 - Wrigley Field 7/14/13 - Worcester I 10/15/13 - Global Citizen 9/26/15 - MSG II 5/2/16 - Fenway I 8/5/16 - Fenway II 8/7/16 - Fenway II 9/4/18 - LA I 5/6/22 - LA II 5/7/22 - MSG 9/11/22 - Nashville 9/16/22 - St. Paul I and II 8/31/23-9/2/23 - Napa 5/25/24 - MSG I 9/3/24 - MSG II 9/4/24 - Hollywood FL I 4/24/25 - Hollywood FL II 4/26/250
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 Upgrading has nothing to do with your existing seats. You just have to be ready to pounce and fight the bots to upgrade. It can be difficult. And very time consuming. Many people are refreshing all day every day for upgrades. You don't have to unload your tickets first. In fact, I wouldn't in case you can't get anything on F2F. The 2 ticket limit is only for Ten Club tickets (at least that is how it has been). If you get tickets in the lottery you should still be able to try at the presale.Stargazer67 said:Thank you for this insight! I am new to 10C. If I do obtain less desirable seated tickets through the lottery, does that make it harder to upgrade? Do I have to unload them first, before being able to purchase new ones in the F2F? And if I get tix through the lottery, does that preclude me from buying other tix through the Artist Presale? Appreciate any further insights. I wish the F2F instructions were available now.
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            im not following some of these posts. Maybe I’m confused. But looking back at the info the whole p1/p2 labeling only seems to apply for the artist presale not 10 club. When you request 10 club tickets it’s not labeled that way. 185 is price no matter what. If you pick ga/reserved and don’t get ga you are put in reserved lottery. At that point you are in same lottery and price point if you just had selected reserved. What am I missing?0
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 It's more than reasonable for an arena show nowadays but that says more about arena show ticket prices nowadaysestarr31 said:
 Funny, I saw $185 and thought, damn that's not badDragonsAfter3or4 said:Have fun all. For 185 bucks a pop for Nashville before even fees.. I'm good. Appears my 30 plus years of concerts are a comin to an end.Hopefully Bourbon and Beyond has a good lineup this year. If not...so be it.0
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 It's awesome, but definitely not freecoleloco said:
 Go to the Warhol Museum. It's free, and awesome.SVRDhand13 said:i
 I literally said multiple times over the past few days that I'm not going for any of these shows but now Pitt is intriguing.Johnny Abruzzo said:I said one show is good for me but jeez two shows in Pittsburgh Friday & Sunday - can't say no to that!
 So, what is there to do in Pittsburgh?!0
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 maybe Aaron can get him a behind the scenes tour.hihobibo said:
 It's awesome, but definitely not freecoleloco said:
 Go to the Warhol Museum. It's free, and awesome.SVRDhand13 said:i
 I literally said multiple times over the past few days that I'm not going for any of these shows but now Pitt is intriguing.Johnny Abruzzo said:I said one show is good for me but jeez two shows in Pittsburgh Friday & Sunday - can't say no to that!
 So, what is there to do in Pittsburgh?!
  Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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            That is definitely not the same venue at the Hard Rock where I saw Alice in Chains 10 years ago. That was an old arena with terrible sound. This looks like a giant upgrade.0
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 If you win reserved you will have great seats. I’m 206178 and had good seats at both Fenway shows. Odds are those shows have more lower members than recent tour. You will be happy I’m sure.DB78510 said:I haven't been to a show in like twelve, thirteen years. Is 219xxx likely to get good seats now?
 Seem to remember having good seats for the last show I went to but not as good as previous tours.Springfield 4/6/94, Boston 4/6/94, Hartford 10/2/96, New York 9/11/98, Hartford 9/13/98, Mansfield 8/30/00, Boston 9/28/04, Reading 10/1/04, Quebec City 9/20/05, Boston 5/24/06, Hartford 5/13/06, New York 6/25/08, Hartford 6/27/08 Philadelphia 10/31/09, Hartford 10/15/10,
 Boston 10/17/10, East Troy 9/3/11, East Troy 9/4/11, Missoula 9/30/12, Worcester 10/15/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Charlottesville 10/29/13,
 St. Paul 10/19/14, New York 9/26/15, Quebec City 5/5/16, Boston 8/5/16, Boston 9/2/18, Boston 9/4/18, Quebec City 9/1/22, Camden 9/14/22, Oklahoma City 9/20/220
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 It's also not "before fees"-- it includes fees. It's before taxes, which can be anywhere from non-existent to a few dollars.pjl44 said:
 It's more than reasonable for an arena show nowadays but that says more about arena show ticket prices nowadaysestarr31 said:
 Funny, I saw $185 and thought, damn that's not badDragonsAfter3or4 said:Have fun all. For 185 bucks a pop for Nashville before even fees.. I'm good. Appears my 30 plus years of concerts are a comin to an end.Hopefully Bourbon and Beyond has a good lineup this year. If not...so be it.
 (At least assuming it works like the 2024 shows.)I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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 Yes. One package covers all shows you get through the lottery.pearldavidson said:Does 1 commemorative ticket package fulfill all the shows I choose? Not sure if I need 2 packages for 2 shows.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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            What to choose for lottery…. Pit/seating vs seating for 2 people that are under 5’7”? Standing would be Nice to have the chance of being up close but then you really can’t leave to get a refill and don’t want to stare at the back of taller people.0
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 Are you suggesting the total capacity is then 13,634?MG14345 said:PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
 EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
 Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230
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 Which Comfort Inn? My wife and I are interested in that price.Reissy said:
 Fwiw, I just booked a Comfort Inn for less than $100 a night after fees. 15-18 minute drive from the arena.dmbolp said:
 Nashville hotel prices are crazy. 2018ish, DMB, drove up from ATL, paid $30 to park in the Hilton underground parking garage across the street, slept in Jeep afterwards, back in ATL by 9amKwieneke said:Avoiding Nashville due to how expensive it was last time I was there. Also just too crowded for me this time around 2011: Vancouver 2011: Vancouver
 2013: LA 1 & 2, Vancouver
 2018: Seattle 1 & 2
 2022: LA 1 & 2
 2024: Vancouver 1 & 2, Portland, Seattle 1 & 2
 2025: Nashville 1 & 2, Raleigh 1 & 20
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 Yes you can.. you can leave any time it's not prison...omg... have you people never done a standing area for a concert before?Jporter001 said:What to choose for lottery…. Pit/seating vs seating for 2 people that are under 5’7”? Standing would be Nice to have the chance of being up close but then you really can’t leave to get a refill and don’t want to stare at the back of taller people.0
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