#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

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  • shecky said:

    Joe Rogan argued that the establishment media that once was friendly to President-elect Donald Trump has since been engaged in a years-long "psy-op" to convince Americans he is dangerous.

    "The Joe Rogan Experience" is one of the world’s most popular podcasts, and Rogan is seen as having been one of the key players in the 2024 election, for interviewing Trump and then endorsing his bid for the presidency in the 11th hour. The podcaster has since mocked the media for losing their credibility with voters and alienating lifelong liberals like himself.

    On Thursday's episode, with comedians Shane Gillis, Mark Normans, and Ari Shaffir, Rogan recalled how friendly people in entertainment and the media once were to Trump, playing clips from his 2012 appearance on "The View" where he was cheered, as well as when he went on Oprah in and she asked him about running for president

    Since then, "The View" has become a frequent source for apocalyptic takes about Trump, and Oprah shredded him while campaigning with Vice President Kamala Harris. Rogan argued that the abrupt shift in tone toward Trump has been shocking in retrospect, "What we saw is the greatest media psy-op in history."

    The podcast host continued to hammer legacy media.

    "What you’re seeing with Trump, regardless of his flaws, is a massive concentrated psy-op," Rogan said. "They’ve distorted who he is to the point where most people think that way. Most people think that way. They’ve had narratives."

    "What is a psy-op? I keep hearing that," Normand said.

    "Psychological operation," Rogan explained. "Where they’ve decided to distort people’s perceptions of things."

    Shaffir replied that older liberals are shocked to hear that former President Obama oversaw more deportations than Trump. "They go, ‘That doesn’t make sense.’ And you go, ‘Right, focus on what’s giving you the reality of the world,’" he said.

    Shaffir replied that older liberals are shocked to hear that former President Obama oversaw more deportations than Trump. "They go, ‘That doesn’t make sense.’ And you go, ‘Right, focus on what’s giving you the reality of the world,’" he said.

    Rogan then turned to his producer, Jamie, and asked him to show a "wild" quote from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from 2008 where she was "saying some wild MAGA-type s---" about "illegal immigrants."

    Clinton could be heard in the recording declaring, "I think we got to have tough conditions. Tell people to come out of the shadows. If they’ve committed a crime, deport them, no questions asked."

    "She’s a Republican," Shaffir joked.

    In the recording, Clinton continued, "If they’ve been working and are law-abiding, we should say, ‘Here are the conditions for you staying. You have to pay a stiff fine because you came here illegally. You have to pay back taxes and you have to try to learn English. And you have to wait in line.’"

    The guests expressed their shock at Clinton’s past comments.

    "’You have to wait in line,’ And everybody’s cheering," Rogan said. "2008. Hillary Clinton was more MAGA than Trump. But how about that? More MAGA than Trump. It’s all a f---ing illusion. It’s all a f---ing illusion. All of them, when convenient, have said the exact same things."

    Rogan argued that this election shows that the tide has turned, however.

    "They had control of the media up until now. This election was the first time they didn’t really have control of the media anymore," Rogan argued.

    When asked why this is, the podcaster replied, "Because of us, because of podcasts. Because of social media, because of X."

    And to think, something you may want to try, is that you could have had what you wanted in 2016 but you fell for the “Mexico will pay for the wall.” As it relates to Obama and the record number of deportations? Those of us paying attention knew it too and weren’t offended. You know why? Think about it. Try thinking about it. I’ll give you time to see what you can come up with, eh?
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    edited November 2024
    Joe Rogan.  Now there's a guy who should stop talking and start writing some of those alternate reality type sci-fi books.  Or something.  Anything but commenting on serious current event topics.
    Post edited by brianlux on
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  • The Rogey Bros discussing policy without a freaking clue. And a 2008 Hillary Clinton quote is supposed to be some sort of “own?”

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  • Panic is seeping in boys and girls. Speaking of which, where’s Maggie Three Names of late? Stroking the Matt Getts Off mane to soothe the wounded heart?
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  • Posts: 3,959
    Wait...
    So democrats do want to do something about illegal immigration?
    Talk about a right-wing media psy-op.
  • A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235
    Staten Island loves President Trump!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
    https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1862839064153432239

  • Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    shecky said:

    Joe Rogan argued that the establishment media that once was friendly to President-elect Donald Trump has since been engaged in a years-long "psy-op" to convince Americans he is dangerous.

    "The Joe Rogan Experience" is one of the world’s most popular podcasts, and Rogan is seen as having been one of the key players in the 2024 election, for interviewing Trump and then endorsing his bid for the presidency in the 11th hour. The podcaster has since mocked the media for losing their credibility with voters and alienating lifelong liberals like himself.

    On Thursday's episode, with comedians Shane Gillis, Mark Normans, and Ari Shaffir, Rogan recalled how friendly people in entertainment and the media once were to Trump, playing clips from his 2012 appearance on "The View" where he was cheered, as well as when he went on Oprah in and she asked him about running for president

    Since then, "The View" has become a frequent source for apocalyptic takes about Trump, and Oprah shredded him while campaigning with Vice President Kamala Harris. Rogan argued that the abrupt shift in tone toward Trump has been shocking in retrospect, "What we saw is the greatest media psy-op in history."

    The podcast host continued to hammer legacy media.

    "What you’re seeing with Trump, regardless of his flaws, is a massive concentrated psy-op," Rogan said. "They’ve distorted who he is to the point where most people think that way. Most people think that way. They’ve had narratives."

    "What is a psy-op? I keep hearing that," Normand said.

    "Psychological operation," Rogan explained. "Where they’ve decided to distort people’s perceptions of things."

    Shaffir replied that older liberals are shocked to hear that former President Obama oversaw more deportations than Trump. "They go, ‘That doesn’t make sense.’ And you go, ‘Right, focus on what’s giving you the reality of the world,’" he said.

    Shaffir replied that older liberals are shocked to hear that former President Obama oversaw more deportations than Trump. "They go, ‘That doesn’t make sense.’ And you go, ‘Right, focus on what’s giving you the reality of the world,’" he said.

    Rogan then turned to his producer, Jamie, and asked him to show a "wild" quote from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from 2008 where she was "saying some wild MAGA-type s---" about "illegal immigrants."

    Clinton could be heard in the recording declaring, "I think we got to have tough conditions. Tell people to come out of the shadows. If they’ve committed a crime, deport them, no questions asked."

    "She’s a Republican," Shaffir joked.

    In the recording, Clinton continued, "If they’ve been working and are law-abiding, we should say, ‘Here are the conditions for you staying. You have to pay a stiff fine because you came here illegally. You have to pay back taxes and you have to try to learn English. And you have to wait in line.’"

    The guests expressed their shock at Clinton’s past comments.

    "’You have to wait in line,’ And everybody’s cheering," Rogan said. "2008. Hillary Clinton was more MAGA than Trump. But how about that? More MAGA than Trump. It’s all a f---ing illusion. It’s all a f---ing illusion. All of them, when convenient, have said the exact same things."

    Rogan argued that this election shows that the tide has turned, however.

    "They had control of the media up until now. This election was the first time they didn’t really have control of the media anymore," Rogan argued.

    When asked why this is, the podcaster replied, "Because of us, because of podcasts. Because of social media, because of X."

    Rogan is a fucking moron. The media treated him like a news item instead of the piece of shit that he is. He won because he was willing to lie and the gop was willing to sell their souls to go along for the ride. 
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    brianlux said:

    Hard to imagine otherwise.  Including quite a few who voted for him.  20-20 hindsight is a bitch.
    That's what was said last time. Yet here he is, with more influence and power than ever. 

    He has people who didn't even know what trans was, now blaming them for all of their problems
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    Rogan is a fucking moron. The media treated him like a news item instead of the piece of shit that he is. He won because he was willing to lie and the gop was willing to sell their souls to go along for the ride. 


    "Trump is evil" failed to work in 2016. Yet that was the democrats playbook in 2024. When will the democrats take responsibility for their failure to communicate with Americans?
  • A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235


    "Trump is evil" failed to work in 2016. Yet that was the democrats playbook in 2024. When will the democrats take responsibility for their failure to communicate with Americans?
    Not only was Trump “evil”, but they also consistently demonized half the electorate by calling them stupid, deplorable, racist, nazis, uneducated, garbage etc. 
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    Not only was Trump “evil”, but they also consistently demonized half the electorate by calling them stupid, deplorable, racist, nazis, uneducated, garbage etc. 
    yeah we know he’s the 2nd coming of Lordy Jesus! 
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    That's what was said last time. Yet here he is, with more influence and power than ever. 

    He has people who didn't even know what trans was, now blaming them for all of their problems
    yes, but there were blockades in his way in 2016. Now that he has all 3 houses, and the SC, whatever he wants, he will likely be able to do. And it won't be popular when all is said and done. 
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  • A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235
    Staten Island 😂😂 the most racist borough or city north of the Mason Dixie line it’s literally a garbage dump 😂
    Hey Jose!  I guess these guys are racists too according to you!
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Joe Rogan is good friends with Alex Jones. That's all you need to know. 
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  • Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185


    "Trump is evil" failed to work in 2016. Yet that was the democrats playbook in 2024. When will the democrats take responsibility for their failure to communicate with Americans?
    I have no idea but he is evil. He's as dangerous as everyone in his previous admin has warned us. 
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235


    Trump putting the world on notice the days of America last policies are over!  🇺🇸
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    Hey Jose!  I guess these guys are racists too according to you!
    https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1862880171868799417
    I don’t give a hoot about who’s doing the two hand handjob dance you’ll be the hit of the Xmas office party this year doing it please post videos of you doing it, I responded to the link of Staten Island and I stand by my statement! 
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    mickeyrat said:

    Funny because it’s true! 
  • Posts: 31,604
    Funny because it’s true! 
    She said it best! 
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