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The situation in Eastern Europe is far & away my biggest concern... when Russia takes Ukraine, (which is likely to happen at this point,) they aren't stopping there.cincybearcat said:You know I have concerns about a lot of things. I know Trump will do crazy things. I do worry about my retirement, inflation if tariffs out of control and if so-called trump tax breaks will raise my taxes again.
But the first thought in my head is how awful it must feel if you are Ukrainian. You are likely to be abandoned and Trump will allow his daddy to steal land....crazy.
I think the odds of WWIII in our near future are way higher now, but alas.0 -
Yes, it’s greed everywhere. I live in NY and in 2019 the state minimum wage went from $7.25 to $15. The menu prices skyrocketed to cover the cost for the business, but I am still required to tip 20/%. Now there is going to be no tax on worker tips but again…prices will remain. Nobody is going to give money back. Ever.mace1229 said:
Not only that about menu prices, but it seems like the tip percent keeps creeping up.mookieblalock said:
Don’t agree with abandoning capitalism, but I’ve said to my wife for years that when prices became highly inflated during the pandemic, corporations were never going to willingly lower them again.jerparker20 said:
The only way prices come down is to abandon capitalism. If anyone believes corporations are going to willingly cut prices on good and services and lower their quarterly earnings, especially when raising prices is what has been driving corporate revenue the past 3-4 years, well they have another thing coming. You may see prices on goods level out some over the next year or two, but that would happen under either party. We’ll never see prices get back to where they were pre-COVID. That’s a reality,mcgruff10 said:I remember a professor I had said people will always vote their wallets and I think this is exactly what happened here. Prices are out of control; hopefully President Trump fulfills his promise of bringing prices back down.
i remember vividly during the pandemic the price of chicken wings being insanely high. Then I saw on the news a year or 2 later than supply, etc normalized and bulk prices returned to pre covid levels….
BUT restaurants never reduced their menu prices and haven’t. And they never will. Inflation is high, largely because of corporate greed. Accept that.
Several times I've eaten out and the suggested options were started over 20%.0 -
Will be a tad tougher to attack a NATO-country, EU-country or frankly a country "Europeans consider to be European".Merkin Baller said:
The situation in Eastern Europe is far & away my biggest concern... when Russia takes Ukraine, (which is likely to happen at this point,) they aren't stopping there.cincybearcat said:You know I have concerns about a lot of things. I know Trump will do crazy things. I do worry about my retirement, inflation if tariffs out of control and if so-called trump tax breaks will raise my taxes again.
But the first thought in my head is how awful it must feel if you are Ukrainian. You are likely to be abandoned and Trump will allow his daddy to steal land....crazy.
I think the odds of WWIII in our near future are way higher now, but alas."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I think the people who worry about it the most, have no idea what it is. Where I work, our "client" base is 60% diverse, but the staff make-up is less than 15% diverse. DEI isn't taking jobs from white men and handing them to less qualified candidates, it's creating initiatives to reach often overlooked and under represented populations to expand the applicant pool. I've never once been forced to hire a diverse candidate over a more qualified and better experienced non diverse candidate. I have had to repost because our pool was shit, but DEI isn't forcing me to hire someone. If that's happening where you work, that's wrong and wouldn't be a place I would continue working at.Lerxst1992 said:Hobbes said:
One is a conceptual framework and the other is an academic field. Neither are policies. Try again.tempo_n_groove said:
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.Force Of Nature said:
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.bootlegger10 said:So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.I am not sure what your point is on DEI. it is not a conceptual framework. It is common policy for many of the large American corporations, and many of us have been hurt significantly by it. it is one of the things as a Democrat the troubles me about my party
I think the heart of the issue is that we (as a society) are more inclined to hire someone who looks like us and is someone we can relate to because it makes us feel comfortable. It's an ingrained unconscious bias. The right wants to call people "woke" who recognize this unconscious bias because it means accepting some level of responsibility to why race and gender issues still exist at the level they do. I think acknowledging them is the first step towards finding a solution and actively trying to make a change.
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Same for CRT.tbergs said:
I think the people who worry about it the most, have no idea what it is.Lerxst1992 said:Hobbes said:
One is a conceptual framework and the other is an academic field. Neither are policies. Try again.tempo_n_groove said:
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.Force Of Nature said:
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.bootlegger10 said:So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.I am not sure what your point is on DEI. it is not a conceptual framework. It is common policy for many of the large American corporations, and many of us have been hurt significantly by it. it is one of the things as a Democrat the troubles me about my party0 -
I was curious about the language you used is why, lol! I am also familiar with them, I started a thread on one. but yeah, u plagiarized. Its ok.Hobbes said:
I've read up plenty. Familiar with the language. Seems you had to google them, though. Good on you!tempo_n_groove said:
If you don't think that is what people are afraid of then you need to read up more. Had to google them? Thats exactly what comes up as answers if u do. Good on you!Hobbes said:
One is a conceptual framework and the other is an academic field. Neither are policies. Try again.tempo_n_groove said:
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.Force Of Nature said:
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.bootlegger10 said:So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.0 -
If there is no tax on tips, I'm taking that $ back and tipping less.mookieblalock said:
Yes, it’s greed everywhere. I live in NY and in 2019 the state minimum wage went from $7.25 to $15. The menu prices skyrocketed to cover the cost for the business, but I am still required to tip 20/%. Now there is going to be no tax on worker tips but again…prices will remain. Nobody is going to give money back. Ever.mace1229 said:
Not only that about menu prices, but it seems like the tip percent keeps creeping up.mookieblalock said:
Don’t agree with abandoning capitalism, but I’ve said to my wife for years that when prices became highly inflated during the pandemic, corporations were never going to willingly lower them again.jerparker20 said:
The only way prices come down is to abandon capitalism. If anyone believes corporations are going to willingly cut prices on good and services and lower their quarterly earnings, especially when raising prices is what has been driving corporate revenue the past 3-4 years, well they have another thing coming. You may see prices on goods level out some over the next year or two, but that would happen under either party. We’ll never see prices get back to where they were pre-COVID. That’s a reality,mcgruff10 said:I remember a professor I had said people will always vote their wallets and I think this is exactly what happened here. Prices are out of control; hopefully President Trump fulfills his promise of bringing prices back down.
i remember vividly during the pandemic the price of chicken wings being insanely high. Then I saw on the news a year or 2 later than supply, etc normalized and bulk prices returned to pre covid levels….
BUT restaurants never reduced their menu prices and haven’t. And they never will. Inflation is high, largely because of corporate greed. Accept that.
Several times I've eaten out and the suggested options were started over 20%.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Uneducated white women. Shocker.pjl44 said:
This is not at all borne out in the exit polling and would qualify as disinformationBentleyspop said:When people ask "how did this happen?". Tell them it was men.
White, older, "christian" men who never attended college.
They see themselves in his hatred.
And yes clearly white women and latinos are part of the equation but his overwhelming support came from white men.
They should all be ashamed for supporting so much fear, hatred, ignorance, and lies.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Policies that companies put in place. Exactly.Lerxst1992 said:Hobbes said:
One is a conceptual framework and the other is an academic field. Neither are policies. Try again.tempo_n_groove said:
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.Force Of Nature said:
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.bootlegger10 said:So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.I am not sure what your point is on DEI. it is not a conceptual framework. It is common policy for many of the large American corporations, and many of us have been hurt significantly by it. it is one of the things as a Democrat the troubles me about my party0 -
This is something we talked about in the FED thread. ALL the car companies have left prices high and supply low as they see they can and make more profits that way. The "supply chain" for the most part was bullshit too.mookieblalock said:
Don’t agree with abandoning capitalism, but I’ve said to my wife for years that when prices became highly inflated during the pandemic, corporations were never going to willingly lower them again.jerparker20 said:
The only way prices come down is to abandon capitalism. If anyone believes corporations are going to willingly cut prices on good and services and lower their quarterly earnings, especially when raising prices is what has been driving corporate revenue the past 3-4 years, well they have another thing coming. You may see prices on goods level out some over the next year or two, but that would happen under either party. We’ll never see prices get back to where they were pre-COVID. That’s a reality,mcgruff10 said:I remember a professor I had said people will always vote their wallets and I think this is exactly what happened here. Prices are out of control; hopefully President Trump fulfills his promise of bringing prices back down.
i remember vividly during the pandemic the price of chicken wings being insanely high. Then I saw on the news a year or 2 later than supply, etc normalized and bulk prices returned to pre covid levels….
BUT restaurants never reduced their menu prices and haven’t. And they never will. Inflation is high, largely because of corporate greed. Accept that.0 -
The average maturity/intelligence of your maga voter. Racism against whites. My god the stupid.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Are you 12 years oldjimjam1982 said:
DEI and CRT are just fancy ways of saying racism against whites.Gern Blansten said:
really? I was just going to answer and say that it is likely things that the right manufactured and here we aretempo_n_groove said:
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.Force Of Nature said:
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.bootlegger10 said:So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.
Racism will not be tolerated any longer in this country. The Obama era is over.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Inflation was the biggest driver. I think "Trans Women in Sports" was a close second with the border 3rd. Harris did a terrible job of really addressing any of those, but given the economy, I don't think the party had a chance. As Project 2025 moves into implementation with the backing of the most party-loyal federal court system in US history, some people may regret their vote. By then it will be too late. Even an optimistic Dem/lib has to recognize that the next people to experience a balanced court system have not even been born yet.
This necessary downturn Elon has mentioned will probably come from a very swift firing of a million or so federal employees. Further, I'm not a federal employee but am one of several hundred thousand likely to end up unemployed in 2025 or 2026.
We're not really going to have a functioning federal government, which is part of the appeal. Trump is no longer surrounded by so many normies/establishment (depending on your POV). It's all people that want to make a big splash against wokeness, government spending, secularism, and feminism. They don't actually care about running an efficient government. They care about getting rich and, to an extent, destroying the government. I guess their contempt for federal employees will be accepted since they're lazy government workers. But Elon's one-size-fits-all belief in slashing staff is going to cause a lot of problems for the way the federal government operates along with a big spike in unemployment. He's about to become the most powerful non-governmental figure in US history.Post edited by OnWis97 on1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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DEI is basically becoming a melting pot. If it is forced like affirmative action(not that it has) people lose their minds. It promotes diversity. I just don't think diversity expectations can be met in all factors of the workplace and like you said, it's not taking anyone's proposition of a job but that is what people believe.tbergs said:
I think the people who worry about it the most, have no idea what it is. Where I work, our "client" base is 60% diverse, but the staff make-up is less than 15% diverse. DEI isn't taking jobs from white men and handing them to less qualified candidates, it's creating initiatives to reach often overlooked and under represented populations to expand the applicant pool. I've never once been forced to hire a diverse candidate over a more qualified and better experienced non diverse candidate. I have had to repost because our pool was shit, but DEI isn't forcing me to hire someone. If that's happening where you work, that's wrong and wouldn't be a place I would continue working at.Lerxst1992 said:Hobbes said:
One is a conceptual framework and the other is an academic field. Neither are policies. Try again.tempo_n_groove said:
DEi and CRT. Diversity Equity and Inclusion, Critical Race Theory.Force Of Nature said:
As someone in the UK who isn't close to US policies, what's are examples of 'ultra woke policies'? Just curious.bootlegger10 said:So 2-3% of people that voted for Biden now vote for Trump and it is racist and misogynistic that Kamala lost? I could see if 30% of the people that voted for Biden switched to Kamala.
Trump won because people thought he would do better with the economy, would better control illegal immigration, and would slow the advance of ultra woke policies.Those are your reasons that Trump won. Sure, Trump may be terrible at those things, but people vote on their perceptions of reality. So Dems need to stop saying they lose because of racism and misogyny, and work harder to convince voters that they are better in these areas.I am not sure what your point is on DEI. it is not a conceptual framework. It is common policy for many of the large American corporations, and many of us have been hurt significantly by it. it is one of the things as a Democrat the troubles me about my party
I think the heart of the issue is that we (as a society) are more inclined to hire someone who looks like us and is someone we can relate to because it makes us feel comfortable. It's an ingrained unconscious bias. The right wants to call people "woke" who recognize this unconscious bias because it means accepting some level of responsibility to why race and gender issues still exist at the level they do. I think acknowledging them is the first step towards finding a solution and actively trying to make a change.
Example on where it sometimes doesn't work, FDNY. They have been trying for years to get them more diversified and for whatever reason minorities have less of a desire to become firemen. That may still be race laced though but they have tried.0 -
''the greatest country on Earth''..thats a good one, lol..battle1 said:
take yourself up on the last sentence. You aren't changing anything. You are lucky to be in the greatest country on Earth what is so wrong with that?bootleg said:
I don’t want to call people stupid but it really does feel like we’ve begun to devolve and aren’t able to think critically about issues anymore. Sometimes I wish I was just able to walk around aloof and without a care about the world around me.brianlux said:bootleg said:It all just seems so irrational to me. I want it to make sense on some level but I can’t find it. This fucking guy?
Yeah, same hear. I keep wishing someone would shake me and wake me up. Is this real? It's absolutely embarrassing. How is it that there are actually that many shortsighted, hateful, unimaginative, stupid people in this country? How did they get that way? And I'm not saying this to be a dick. I really wonder about these things.Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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We swamped the vote. To big to rig.Gern Blansten said:
lol...so why didn't they cheat this time? Why give up the oval? Why give up the senate?Choccoloccotide said:Just think for a minute. If the dems wouldn’t have cheated in 2020, Trump would only have 2 months left to be President. Now he’ll be in the Oval till 2029. How does that feel?
Comments like this are laughable. I needed that.0 -
Ledbetterman10 said:
Or even your boy Bernie Sanders.Spiritual_Chaos said:
They tried to make Kamala happen (and did as good a job they could with it). But I think all the "Joy" and stuff felt shallow to people because all she was, was "not Trump". Most people who in the end voted D did it because they didn't want Trump more than being swayed by Kamala. She doesn't have that Obama, Bill or Trump charisma. Or even Tim Waltz or Joe Biden (when he was snappier) charisma. Or AOC.Ledbetterman10 said:
So why didn't she get a single delegate in the 2020 primary? Was the democratic electorate racist or sexist? Or did they know that she a terrible candidate even then?tbergs said:
Sexist would the correct assessment of why the huge swing.Ledbetterman10 said:
Those damn white supremacist Latinos.Spiritual_Chaos said:
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
do you believe in climate change?Choccoloccotide said:
We swamped the vote. To big to rig.Gern Blansten said:
lol...so why didn't they cheat this time? Why give up the oval? Why give up the senate?Choccoloccotide said:Just think for a minute. If the dems wouldn’t have cheated in 2020, Trump would only have 2 months left to be President. Now he’ll be in the Oval till 2029. How does that feel?
Comments like this are laughable. I needed that."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I'm still laughing...thanksChoccoloccotide said:
We swamped the vote. To big to rig.Gern Blansten said:
lol...so why didn't they cheat this time? Why give up the oval? Why give up the senate?Choccoloccotide said:Just think for a minute. If the dems wouldn’t have cheated in 2020, Trump would only have 2 months left to be President. Now he’ll be in the Oval till 2029. How does that feel?
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Swamped the vote? At the current count he didn’t reach what he had in 2020.Choccoloccotide said:
We swamped the vote. To big to rig.Gern Blansten said:
lol...so why didn't they cheat this time? Why give up the oval? Why give up the senate?Choccoloccotide said:Just think for a minute. If the dems wouldn’t have cheated in 2020, Trump would only have 2 months left to be President. Now he’ll be in the Oval till 2029. How does that feel?
Comments like this are laughable. I needed that.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
What happened to those 20 million voters in 2020? Did they die from COVID?
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