United States port workers strike

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

I bet you wave a flag when you poop

You shit on america with each wipe of your imported inferior sandpaper.

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

I bet you wave a flag when you poop

You shit on america with each wipe of your imported inferior sandpaper.

yeah well at least my ejector pump doesn't flood my basement with my anti american feces

cutz said:

Went to Costco today and YES, they were sold out of TP & Paper Towels.

Talked to a Manager and she told me people were lined up yesterday morning before they opened. They usually have about 1,500 customers on that day(Wed.s) and they had well over 4,000. People panicking/hoarding. Sold out of TP & Paper Towels by 2:30.

And, the Manager told me that TP is made right here in NJ=LOL

 I was due for my usual shopping at this time, so the timing of this sucks. Oh well.

gimmesometruth27 said:

hannity is upset about the strike ending.

why would that be?

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

cincybearcat said:

Get to work

From what I've read the last couple days.
Top wage is basically $39 an hour, and they want the new contract to add $5 an hour, each year, for 6 years. Bringing their wages to $69 an hour. 
I've read that as of now with their overtime, many of them are making $150k a year. 

jerparker20 said:

I’m a life long union guy, but the demands for 70% over six and no automation are absurd. 

Also the union president, Harold Daggett, his rhetoric of “… going to cripple the people of this country until everyone knows who the longshoremen are” can fuck right off.

The guy is one of those old, mafia stooges. Tried twice by DOJ under RICO. Walked in one of the case s cause the main witness didn’t testify since he was decomposing in the trunk of a car. A real piece of trash.

Definitely an outrageous ask. 
They supposedly turned down a nearly 50% wage increase. I'm generally on the side of labor in most of these situations, but this one needs a Ronnie Ray-gun to the air traffic controllers type response.

I like to see the Unions ask for something.  It helps all the labor forces across the US. They offered 50% increase without a blink of an eye.  How much more could they afford to give up?

Ronny Raygun was within his right to fire the ATC.  It was risky though.  If planes started crashing because of his decision to use "almost" trained ATC's then there would have been no 2nd term and perhaps an impeachment.  Ballsy move that panned out and put a setback on Unions for the next decade or so and most likely why Walmart and Amazon were never unionized for years.  They wrote books on how to handle Unions.

So I am for what the Longshoremen are doing.  I will install a bidet so I don't have to worry about toilet paper for a while.

Toilet paper is mostly a NA business...you don't have to worry about toilet paper coming in from overseas really.

I am not pro very many unions or their decisions.  And this one lost me 100% when they demanded no automation... just a stupid, unrealistic demand that shows them to be unserious people.

We import 3.1bil in TP so I'd check that but in the meantime I'll still get the Bidet...

I forgot to mention the AI thing.  That is absurd. Jerparker said what Andrew Yang has been saying about trucking, get training for a new job.
That is what they should be also looking for.

Something else I thought about in reading the against posts here, reminds me of the mining jobs in places like West Virginia or the Auto Worker jobs in Detroit.  These people lost their jobs and never recovered.  There was no contingency plan.

I'm for the Unions getting more but there needs to be a plan B and not go running off a cliff like a lemming.

Thanks you two for that insight.

All the good toilet paper is made in the USA is what I really meant...was focused on the good brand with high quality...not that stuff you find in public restrooms

I'm all about the Scott one-ply from Costco. We have an ejector pit in our house so nothing can be flushed except human waste and cheap toilet paper. First world probs

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

cincybearcat said:

Get to work

From what I've read the last couple days.
Top wage is basically $39 an hour, and they want the new contract to add $5 an hour, each year, for 6 years. Bringing their wages to $69 an hour. 
I've read that as of now with their overtime, many of them are making $150k a year. 

jerparker20 said:

I’m a life long union guy, but the demands for 70% over six and no automation are absurd. 

Also the union president, Harold Daggett, his rhetoric of “… going to cripple the people of this country until everyone knows who the longshoremen are” can fuck right off.

The guy is one of those old, mafia stooges. Tried twice by DOJ under RICO. Walked in one of the case s cause the main witness didn’t testify since he was decomposing in the trunk of a car. A real piece of trash.

Definitely an outrageous ask. 
They supposedly turned down a nearly 50% wage increase. I'm generally on the side of labor in most of these situations, but this one needs a Ronnie Ray-gun to the air traffic controllers type response.

I like to see the Unions ask for something.  It helps all the labor forces across the US. They offered 50% increase without a blink of an eye.  How much more could they afford to give up?

Ronny Raygun was within his right to fire the ATC.  It was risky though.  If planes started crashing because of his decision to use "almost" trained ATC's then there would have been no 2nd term and perhaps an impeachment.  Ballsy move that panned out and put a setback on Unions for the next decade or so and most likely why Walmart and Amazon were never unionized for years.  They wrote books on how to handle Unions.

So I am for what the Longshoremen are doing.  I will install a bidet so I don't have to worry about toilet paper for a while.

Toilet paper is mostly a NA business...you don't have to worry about toilet paper coming in from overseas really.

I am not pro very many unions or their decisions.  And this one lost me 100% when they demanded no automation... just a stupid, unrealistic demand that shows them to be unserious people.

We import 3.1bil in TP so I'd check that but in the meantime I'll still get the Bidet...

I forgot to mention the AI thing.  That is absurd. Jerparker said what Andrew Yang has been saying about trucking, get training for a new job.
That is what they should be also looking for.

Something else I thought about in reading the against posts here, reminds me of the mining jobs in places like West Virginia or the Auto Worker jobs in Detroit.  These people lost their jobs and never recovered.  There was no contingency plan.

I'm for the Unions getting more but there needs to be a plan B and not go running off a cliff like a lemming.

Thanks you two for that insight.

All the good toilet paper is made in the USA is what I really meant...was focused on the good brand with high quality...not that stuff you find in public restrooms

I'm all about the Scott one-ply from Costco. We have an ejector pit in our house so nothing can be flushed except human waste and cheap toilet paper. First world probs

They make these hotrod ejector pumps with a grinder in them.  You can pretty much throw a cucumber down there and it will tear it up.  So any opioid supper logs will be no problemo.