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mace1229 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:BF25394 said:tbergs said:lastexitlondon said:There isn't a need to hunt at all.
Nobody needs a gun. Full stop
My sister in laws family has some chickens and the number of eggs they lay are crazy. Wouldn't know what to do with the many unless we ate eggs every single day.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
tbergs said:lastexitlondon said:There isn't a need to hunt at all.
Nobody needs a gun. Full stop
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -0 -
tbergs said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:BF25394 said:tbergs said:lastexitlondon said:There isn't a need to hunt at all.
Nobody needs a gun. Full stop"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:BF25394 said:tbergs said:lastexitlondon said:There isn't a need to hunt at all.
Nobody needs a gun. Full stopIt's a hopeless situation...0 -
tbergs said:gimmesometruth27 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:BF25394 said:tbergs said:lastexitlondon said:There isn't a need to hunt at all.
Nobody needs a gun. Full stop"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:tbergs said:gimmesometruth27 said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:BF25394 said:tbergs said:lastexitlondon said:There isn't a need to hunt at all.
Nobody needs a gun. Full stop"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Another “responsible” gun owner exercising their rights, eh?
Teen shot while asking permission to take homecoming photos on property, sheriff says
The homeowner’s boyfriend confronted the teen and shot him while he was in his car writing a note to leave at the house, authorities say.
A teenager was writing a note asking permission to use a property for a homecoming photo shoot when the landowner’s boyfriend confronted him for trespassing and shot him in the face, authorities said.
Brent Metz, 38, was charged with four felonies — first-degree assault, illegal discharge of a firearm and two counts of menacing — as well as two misdemeanor counts of reckless endangerment in the latest in a string of incidents in which well-meaning or accidental visitors find themselves on the wrong end of a gun.
Although prosecutors argued for a cash bond, a judge allowed Metz, who is an elected member of the Mountain View, Colo., town council, to leave jail by promising to return for future court appearances. He faces decades in prison if convicted.
Colorado law allows people to use “reasonable and appropriate physical force” to defend property but only allows deadly force when they have to defend themselves or another person.
Metz and his lawyer did not immediately respond Friday to requests for comment from The Washington Post.
The teen survived and has been released from the hospital.
Around 3:30 p.m. Tuesday in Littleton, Colo., the teenager who would end up getting shot picked up another boy from Dakota Ridge High School in his white Audi S4, Jefferson County sheriff’s deputy Caleb Harman wrote in a sworn affidavit for Metz’s arrest. The two have known each other since they were children since their parents are good friends.
The teens drove to the idyllic Ken-Caryl Ranch before heading southwest up Deer Creek Canyon to the “high valley,” Harman said in the affidavit. There they saw a house with a lake and a dock that caught their eye and decided to ask the homeowner for permission to take pictures near the lake.
The boys, whose names were redacted in court documents, walked up the driveway to the house to knock on the door and, when there was no answer, returned back down the driveway to the car, Harman said. They got inside so that one of them could get a piece of paper from a notebook and write a note to the homeowner pleading their case, he added.
What the boys didn’t know was that even though nobody was home, the property owner had called Jefferson County emergency communications and her boyfriend to report them as trespassers, and both Metz and deputies were on their way, authorities said.
Metz got there first, Harman said in his affidavit.
As one of them was writing the note, the boys saw a black GMC Sierra pickup truck pull up behind them, blocking them in, Harman said. The driver allegedly got out, walked toward the front of the Audi, pulled a gun from his holster and pointed it at them.
Then they heard the sound of a gunshot and saw the windshield shatter, Harman said.
The boy who was uninjured heard his friend scream “I was going to die!” and Metz say, “Oh s---, my gun went off,” according to the deputy.
After the shooting, the boy got out of the passenger seat, took off his shirt and ran to his friend to apply pressure to his gunshot wound, Harman said. Metz tried to help, but the teen pushed him away, asking him why he had shot his friend, the deputy added.
Harman arrived at the property at 4:28 p.m. to find one of the boys was “bleeding heavily from his face and had blood running down his arm.” One of the boys told him that Metz had fired the gun, and when Harman checked with Metz, he didn’t answer, saying he wanted to speak with his lawyer. Harman asked where the gun was “for officer safety purposes,” and Metz directed him to the inside of the GMC pickup.
Harman handcuffed Metz and eventually took him to the Jefferson County Detention facility.
Last year in April, a White man in Kansas City allegedly shot a Black teenager who mistakenly rang his doorbell instead of another house where he was supposed to pick up his younger siblings. The man, Andrew Lester, who was 84 at the time, said he shot Ralph Yarl, then 16, because he was “scared to death” when the teen came to his front door.
Lester has been charged with two felonies in connection with the shooting, according to the criminal complaint filed in a Missouri circuit court. His case is still pending trial.
Later that month, a 20-year-old woman was shot dead when she and her friends accidentally pulled into the wrong driveway in Upstate New York as they were searching for their friend’s house. The homeowner, then 65-year-old Kevin Monahan, was convicted in January of second-degree murder and later sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.
Metz was elected to the Mountain View town council in 2023. While campaigning, he filled out a Ballotpedia candidate survey telling people about his past and his vision for Mountain View, an enclave of about 550 people nestled in 60 acres and surrounded by the city of Denver.
“Public safety is absolutely important to me,” he wrote in the survey, “and I have a no nonsense outlook to behavior that will harm our residents as well as my family.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/13/colorado-teen-shooting-homecoming-pictures/
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tbergs said:lastexitlondon said:There isn't a need to hunt at all.
Nobody needs a gun. Full stopSorry if it seems I am getting in the middle of this, but I want to point out that there is an option that lies between factory farming and hunting, which is small independent farms do not utilize cruelty the way factory farms do (except for killing. I can't think of killing as not cruel, but some methods are far less cruel than others). Obviously, not eating meat is the least cruel, but there are farms that are far less cruel than factory farming.I agree that there are too many people to have only hunting be the means to procure meat. But I also think there are too many people for almost anyone to hunt for meat. All but a very few people in very specific places can hunt without impacting our already over-stressed ecosystems. In today's world, I'm surprised that is no obvious.But then, I'm always surprised that people in general are only concerned with human needs and don't see that environmental issues have to be resolved first for there to continue to be human-related issues."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
seanwon said:brianlux said:BF25394 said:lastexitlondon said:Yeah that's sad . And also parents . Most people have kids can't they all decide it's pointless to breed another generation of people who think owning a gun is a right and is in any way sensible.
It's gone too far and there is no way back. That's the saddest part of allGreat post, BF.American Indians killed animals for food and used every part of the animal for many uses. But they honored the animal and gave it great respect. When today's hunters carry on the way you described, they are mocking the animal and showing total disrespect. And the whole idea of hunting as "sport" is low-bar mentality.“Whenever I see a photograph of some sportsman grinning over his kill, I am always impressed by the striking moral and esthetic superiority of the dead animal to the live one.”
-Edward Abbey2a was written with ambiguity, and I am not sure if the first two phrases are proper English. Usually, writers place the words with the highest importance at the beginning of their sentences, as is the below. If so, not sure anyone should say with certainty what their gun rights are.“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,”0 -
Lerxst1992 said:seanwon said:brianlux said:BF25394 said:lastexitlondon said:Yeah that's sad . And also parents . Most people have kids can't they all decide it's pointless to breed another generation of people who think owning a gun is a right and is in any way sensible.
It's gone too far and there is no way back. That's the saddest part of allGreat post, BF.American Indians killed animals for food and used every part of the animal for many uses. But they honored the animal and gave it great respect. When today's hunters carry on the way you described, they are mocking the animal and showing total disrespect. And the whole idea of hunting as "sport" is low-bar mentality.“Whenever I see a photograph of some sportsman grinning over his kill, I am always impressed by the striking moral and esthetic superiority of the dead animal to the live one.”
-Edward Abbey2a was written with ambiguity, and I am not sure if the first two phrases are proper English. Usually, writers place the words with the highest importance at the beginning of their sentences, as is the below. If so, not sure anyone should say with certainty what their gun rights are.“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,”I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
Lerxst1992 said:seanwon said:brianlux said:BF25394 said:lastexitlondon said:Yeah that's sad . And also parents . Most people have kids can't they all decide it's pointless to breed another generation of people who think owning a gun is a right and is in any way sensible.
It's gone too far and there is no way back. That's the saddest part of allGreat post, BF.American Indians killed animals for food and used every part of the animal for many uses. But they honored the animal and gave it great respect. When today's hunters carry on the way you described, they are mocking the animal and showing total disrespect. And the whole idea of hunting as "sport" is low-bar mentality.“Whenever I see a photograph of some sportsman grinning over his kill, I am always impressed by the striking moral and esthetic superiority of the dead animal to the live one.”
-Edward Abbey2a was written with ambiguity, and I am not sure if the first two phrases are proper English. Usually, writers place the words with the highest importance at the beginning of their sentences, as is the below. If so, not sure anyone should say with certainty what their gun rights are.“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,”
In today's world, that line has no meaning. It's a moot point. No militia is go to fight off the U.S. armed forces. The whole notion is pointless today. It's makes no sense.
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BF25394 said:Lerxst1992 said:seanwon said:brianlux said:BF25394 said:lastexitlondon said:Yeah that's sad . And also parents . Most people have kids can't they all decide it's pointless to breed another generation of people who think owning a gun is a right and is in any way sensible.
It's gone too far and there is no way back. That's the saddest part of allGreat post, BF.American Indians killed animals for food and used every part of the animal for many uses. But they honored the animal and gave it great respect. When today's hunters carry on the way you described, they are mocking the animal and showing total disrespect. And the whole idea of hunting as "sport" is low-bar mentality.“Whenever I see a photograph of some sportsman grinning over his kill, I am always impressed by the striking moral and esthetic superiority of the dead animal to the live one.”
-Edward Abbey2a was written with ambiguity, and I am not sure if the first two phrases are proper English. Usually, writers place the words with the highest importance at the beginning of their sentences, as is the below. If so, not sure anyone should say with certainty what their gun rights are.“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,”Yes, I agree. But the court has proven to be malleable, as Jefferson put it. The right is not in the text, it’s in an opinion, which is changeable
Unfortunately, even as the 5-4 opinion that the court ruled on Heller, a strict party line vote, has proven that the constitution has failed miserably in many areas. When courts rule on party line votes, at best these rights are temporary and far from solid.
I don’t believe the gun enthusiasts fully understand this, nor do they understand how ambiguous the actual text is of the second amendment, which is where I was going with that point. (Edit, as usual, my original wording earlier wasn’t terrific. Maybe I should be appointed to right a new amendment for gun rights!)Post edited by Lerxst1992 on0 -
In the NRA's main office, they have the Second Amendment text embossed on the wall above the reception desk-- well, sort of. Here's what it actually says: "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." That ellipsis speaks volumes that even the NRA knows what the Second Amendment really means.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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lastexitlondon said:tbergs said:lastexitlondon said:There isn't a need to hunt at all.
Nobody needs a gun. Full stop0 -
It would show more skill
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BF25394 said:In the NRA's main office, they have the Second Amendment text embossed on the wall above the reception desk-- well, sort of. Here's what it actually says: "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." That ellipsis speaks volumes that even the NRA knows what the Second Amendment really means.
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Maybe the “responsible” gun owner was hunting waffles or pancakes?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/15/us/waffle-house-employee-killed-after-customer-becomes-irate-police-say/index.html
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You know because we gots ta eat
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lastexitlondon said:tbergs said:lastexitlondon said:There isn't a need to hunt at all.
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A friend of mine took his 10yo to the range to teach him about gun safety and to plink a few rounds. He was proud if his son and their bonding moment and posted on FB. One person wondered why "you would teach your son to kill".
Pretty obtuse take. Some people are just unhinged at the sight of a firearm.
Oh yes it was the big black devil rifle too.0
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