** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,864
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    yeah, let's take a tweet from the GOP as actual fact. HAHAHAHAHA
    lmao
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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    This is a gift for all my friends here. Nothing describes this group better. 

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,262
    It changed because it’s been the official stance of the Biden admin. There are jobs no money on the line.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,262
    IMO, it’s weird to be so inflexible on your beliefs. Circumstances, factors and times change. You should be mailable to change when external factors change. But that’s the conservatism in a nutshell though, right. “Standing athwart history and yelling, stop”
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Tim Simmons said:
    IMO, it’s weird to be so inflexible on your beliefs. Circumstances, factors and times change. You should be mailable to change when external factors change. But that’s the conservatism in a nutshell though, right. “Standing athwart history and yelling, stop”
    But her values haven’t changed?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    She’s is correct to be for fracking, so I don’t get what the issue is here. 
    She stated in 2019 at a town hall in response to that question that she would ban fracking Day 1 if elected President. As well as offshore drilling.


    All of them? If she is for fracking why not explain what changed from 2019? Maybe she did some research and it showed the positives outweighed the
    negatives. To the people who hate Trump and don’t care about policy it doesn’t matter. But to undecided and independent it does.


    Who cares,, she didn't instigate a riot at the Capitol.  No issue matters like that one, certainly not fracking.

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,262
    edited August 2024
    I don’t get what you are asking.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    yeah, let's take a tweet from the GOP as actual fact. HAHAHAHAHA
    lmao
    So which one of those doesn’t she support? Don’t Gimmesomelies either. Her values have not changed, right?
    Trump changed his abortion position three times in the last 72 hours.  Hundreds of times over good political career, depending on who he is taking to.

    Also,  he started a riot so he can fuck himself

  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Tim Simmons said:
    I don’t get what you are asking.
    Kamala is one of the most liberal politicians ever.In one of the most far left cities, in one of the most far left states. As a DA, as Attorney General and through her years in the Senate. Including her failed Presidential run in 2019 where the majority of her far left policies as to her plans as President were stated.

    Shes 59. Would you not assume her values would be on the liberal to progressive side? But somehow in the last 6-7 weeks she has tried to flip-flop to a more middle or conservative Democrat. Why should people buy it after she said her values haven’t changed.

    Again it doesn’t matter to the TDS Trump haters. They don’t care. I’m talking about the undecided/independent voters in swing states that are going to decide the election.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,124
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    I don’t get what you are asking.
    Kamala is one of the most liberal politicians ever.In one of the most far left cities, in one of the most far left states. As a DA, as Attorney General and through her years in the Senate. Including her failed Presidential run in 2019 where the majority of her far left policies as to her plans as President were stated.

    Shes 59. Would you not assume her values would be on the liberal to progressive side? But somehow in the last 6-7 weeks she has tried to flip-flop to a more middle or conservative Democrat. Why should people buy it after she said her values haven’t changed.

    Again it doesn’t matter to the TDS Trump haters. They don’t care. I’m talking about the undecided/independent voters in swing states that are going to decide the election.
    Of which you’re not one. So who gives a fuck what a POOTWH voter has to say about the “undecideds” or “Indy” voters in swing states. We’ll know on November 5th and I know who I’m voting for.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    edited August 2024
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    I don’t get what you are asking.
    Kamala is one of the most liberal politicians ever.In one of the most far left cities, in one of the most far left states. As a DA, as Attorney General and through her years in the Senate. Including her failed Presidential run in 2019 where the majority of her far left policies as to her plans as President were stated.

    Shes 59. Would you not assume her values would be on the liberal to progressive side? But somehow in the last 6-7 weeks she has tried to flip-flop to a more middle or conservative Democrat. Why should people buy it after she said her values haven’t changed.

    Again it doesn’t matter to the TDS Trump haters. They don’t care. I’m talking about the undecided/independent voters in swing states that are going to decide the election.
    No I would not. She’s been Vice President for the past 3 and a half years in a pretty center administration. When you serve the whole country you try your best to represent as much of the country as possible. 

    I think when she was a DA and a senator, she represented what the people who elected her wanted her to represent. 

    But how does she appeal to undecideds? Well if they are undecided they don’t know anything about her and haven’t paid attention to her so what she sets out to represent is what they will get. 
    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,864
    Tim Simmons said:
    IMO, it’s weird to be so inflexible on your beliefs. Circumstances, factors and times change. You should be mailable to change when external factors change. But that’s the conservatism in a nutshell though, right. “Standing athwart history and yelling, stop”
    i think this is the definition of modern conservatism. continue to double and triple down on something. they are not allowed to adapt their position, so how can the democrats be allowed to do it?

    that entire party is funny.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,864
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    I don’t get what you are asking.
    Kamala is one of the most liberal politicians ever.In one of the most far left cities, in one of the most far left states. As a DA, as Attorney General and through her years in the Senate. Including her failed Presidential run in 2019 where the majority of her far left policies as to her plans as President were stated.

    Shes 59. Would you not assume her values would be on the liberal to progressive side? But somehow in the last 6-7 weeks she has tried to flip-flop to a more middle or conservative Democrat. Why should people buy it after she said her values haven’t changed.

    Again it doesn’t matter to the TDS Trump haters. They don’t care. I’m talking about the undecided/independent voters in swing states that are going to decide the election.
    No I would not. She’s been Vice President for the past 3 and a half years in a pretty center administration. When you serve the whole country you try your best to represent as much of the country as possible. 

    I think when she was a DA and a senator, she represented what the people who elected her wanted her to represent. 

    But how does she appeal to undecideds? Well if they are undecided they don’t know anything about her and haven’t paid attention to her so what she sets out to represent is what they will get. 
    i think what you may be getting at is, she ran in california more as a liberal. in the general election she has to appeal to voters in all states. not just the liberal ones in california. this is why she has to moderate some positions, as in fracking in PA.

    people act as if harris is the first person ever in american history to do this or something.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,864
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    yeah, let's take a tweet from the GOP as actual fact. HAHAHAHAHA
    lmao
    So which one of those doesn’t she support? Don’t Gimmesomelies either. Her values have not changed, right?
    Trump changed his abortion position three times in the last 72 hours.  Hundreds of times over good political career, depending on who he is taking to.

    Also,  he started a riot so he can fuck himself

    i like it when magas come in here and demand that the dems have a purity test for their presidential candidate. they demand answers on a whole host of bs knowing that no matter what we say they aren't voting for the dem. i've learned not to waste my time trying to explain it.

    the funniest thing is they nominated trump 3 times and expect a purity test from us. they can piss up a rope as far as i'm concerned.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,864
    i never thought this was a bad look. back then or now.

    https://x.com/BarackObama/status/1828933458460389523
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,092
    edited August 2024
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    yeah, let's take a tweet from the GOP as actual fact. HAHAHAHAHA
    lmao
    So which one of those doesn’t she support? Don’t Gimmesomelies either. Her values have not changed, right?
    Trump changed his abortion position three times in the last 72 hours.  Hundreds of times over good political career, depending on who he is taking to.

    Also,  he started a riot so he can fuck himself

    i like it when magas come in here and demand that the dems have a purity test for their presidential candidate. they demand answers on a whole host of bs knowing that no matter what we say they aren't voting for the dem. i've learned not to waste my time trying to explain it.

    the funniest thing is they nominated trump 3 times and expect a purity test from us. they can piss up a rope as far as i'm concerned.

    81 million of us voted against him in the last election from what I remember! 
    Post edited by Kat on
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    edited August 2024
    josevolution said:
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    yeah, let's take a tweet from the GOP as actual fact. HAHAHAHAHA
    lmao
    So which one of those doesn’t she support? Don’t Gimmesomelies either. Her values have not changed, right?
    Trump changed his abortion position three times in the last 72 hours.  Hundreds of times over good political career, depending on who he is taking to.

    Also,  he started a riot so he can fuck himself

    i like it when magas come in here and demand that the dems have a purity test for their presidential candidate. they demand answers on a whole host of bs knowing that no matter what we say they aren't voting for the dem. i've learned not to waste my time trying to explain it.

    the funniest thing is they nominated trump 3 times and expect a purity test from us. they can piss up a rope as far as i'm concerned.

    81 million of us voted against him in the last election from what I remember! 
    And ALL 161 million have paid the price dearly. 💸💸💸💸💸
    Post edited by Kat on
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,124
    edited August 2024
    teskeinc said:
    josevolution said:
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    yeah, let's take a tweet from the GOP as actual fact. HAHAHAHAHA
    lmao
    So which one of those doesn’t she support? Don’t Gimmesomelies either. Her values have not changed, right?
    Trump changed his abortion position three times in the last 72 hours.  Hundreds of times over good political career, depending on who he is taking to.

    Also,  he started a riot so he can fuck himself

    i like it when magas come in here and demand that the dems have a purity test for their presidential candidate. they demand answers on a whole host of bs knowing that no matter what we say they aren't voting for the dem. i've learned not to waste my time trying to explain it.

    the funniest thing is they nominated trump 3 times and expect a purity test from us. they can piss up a rope as far as i'm concerned.

    81 million of us voted against him in the last election from what I remember! 
    And ALL 161 million have paid the price dearly. 💸💸💸💸💸
    What? How so? Care to explain or esloborate? Pray do tell your expert analysis. Please?
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    I don’t get what you are asking.
    Kamala is one of the most liberal politicians ever.In one of the most far left cities, in one of the most far left states. As a DA, as Attorney General and through her years in the Senate. Including her failed Presidential run in 2019 where the majority of her far left policies as to her plans as President were stated.

    Shes 59. Would you not assume her values would be on the liberal to progressive side? But somehow in the last 6-7 weeks she has tried to flip-flop to a more middle or conservative Democrat. Why should people buy it after she said her values haven’t changed.

    Again it doesn’t matter to the TDS Trump haters. They don’t care. I’m talking about the undecided/independent voters in swing states that are going to decide the election.
    Link?
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    Falling down,...not staying down
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