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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,595
    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
    What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

    Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

    Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
    We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

    The solution is stop printing money and artificially
    trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.


    Would record level domestic energy production lower energy costs? 
    i would think so. that is my gripe. we are drilling more domestic oil than we ever have before, but gas is still over 3 bucks a gallon. i don't get why. it would have to be price gouging i would think.
    Refining oil to gas and the costs of doing that may be a factor as well. Crude oil is also about double what it was 5 years ago. So that’s a market/OPEC thing, not a president thing. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436
    he keeps bringing up how small the margins are for grocety stores.

    bad faith argument. the price control thing targets the manufacturers. reducing the wholesale cost, thereby reducing the retail cost. guess what happens then? grocery stores still make a 1.6% margin. yes by extension profit is reduced but so fucking what. they still make profit margin.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    Kamala Harris
    I say let in more migrants, have a federal judge lift work restrictions and allow them to work for these food manufacturers/farms/warehouses, increasing the supply. 
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Tim Simmons said:
    I say let in more migrants, have a federal judge lift work restrictions and allow them to work for these food manufacturers/farms/warehouses, increasing the supply. 
    A legal work program is fine. I don’t think anyone has a problem with legal immigration. People have a problem with 10 million, maybe more coming across illegally, un-vetted.

    Mainstream media hid it. Just like they did with Biden’s mental decline. Once CNN decide to label it a “crises” and it became a voting issue did Biden/Harris try to do anything to stem it. It’s too late. 
    Harris failed in her post as “Border Czar” miserably. 
    You can blame Trump for killing the border bill…. Yet 6 Democrats voted against it and it never had enough support to pass. 

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,595
    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    Nah, let the illegals in too. They’re hungry for the American dream. If we truly are the greatest country ever, we can fold them in and we’ll be a better and stronger country because of it. . 
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,560
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    I say let in more migrants, have a federal judge lift work restrictions and allow them to work for these food manufacturers/farms/warehouses, increasing the supply. 
    A legal work program is fine. I don’t think anyone has a problem with legal immigration. People have a problem with 10 million, maybe more coming across illegally, un-vetted.

    Mainstream media hid it. Just like they did with Biden’s mental decline. Once CNN decide to label it a “crises” and it became a voting issue did Biden/Harris try to do anything to stem it. It’s too late. 
    Harris failed in her post as “Border Czar” miserably. 
    You can blame Trump for killing the border bill…. Yet 6 Democrats voted against it and it never had enough support to pass. 

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
    What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

    Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

    Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
    We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

    The solution is stop printing money and artificially
    trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.


    Oh that's rich, coming from the party that doesn't want to tax tips and thinks that the federal gov't should control oil output, export rules and price.  

    BTW, no one prints fucking money.  That's not what the fed does.  Go look up "quantitative easing" if you want to understand money supply.  
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
    What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

    Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

    Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
    We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

    The solution is stop printing money and artificially
    trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.


    Apple's products are not essentials. Even if you think you need a smartphone (which you don't), there are much cheaper alternatives to the iPhone. (And I say this as someone who has made a lot of money owning AAPL.)

    Paul Volcker tamed inflation, not Reagan. The funny thing is that, in November 1984-- when Reagan was reelected in a landslide because it was "Morning in America"-- unemployment was at 7.2 percent and inflation was over 4 percent, whereas unemployment is currently at 4.3 percent and inflation is at 2.9 percent. Thanks, Joe and Kamala!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,245
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
    What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

    Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

    Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
    We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

    The solution is stop printing money and artificially
    trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.


    Apple's products are not essentials. Even if you think you need a smartphone (which you don't), there are much cheaper alternatives to the iPhone. (And I say this as someone who has made a lot of money owning AAPL.)

    Paul Volcker tamed inflation, not Reagan. The funny thing is that, in November 1984-- when Reagan was reelected in a landslide because it was "Morning in America"-- unemployment was at 7.2 percent and inflation was over 4 percent, whereas unemployment is currently at 4.3 percent and inflation is at 2.9 percent. Thanks, Joe and Kamala!
    Stop with the reality already. It wipes them out.
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  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 876
    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    Things I Trust More than Donald Trump 



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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,473


    Do you have a communist police and fire department system
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    Do you have a communist police and fire department system
    Maybe actually learn what it means.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,473
    teskeinc said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    Do you have a communist police and fire department system
    Maybe actually learn what it means.
    oh my god... your post above is not a troll post? Yikes. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    Do you have a communist police and fire department system
    Maybe actually learn what it means.
    Communism is most simply an economic system where the govt owns the means of production.  Which Harris policy transitions the US to that economic system?

    And second,  whose words did you post?  Just because it's on the internet doesn't make it right. 
  • Gern Blansten
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    Donald Trump
    The Healthcare socialism argument is always stunning to me. The tricare system is a true socialist system but magats can't comprehend. 
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  • Tim Simmons
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    Kamala Harris
    communism is simply a red herring
  • Lerxst1992
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    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
    What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

    Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

    Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
    We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

    The solution is stop printing money and artificially
    trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.


    Apple's products are not essentials. Even if you think you need a smartphone (which you don't), there are much cheaper alternatives to the iPhone. (And I say this as someone who has made a lot of money owning AAPL.)

    Paul Volcker tamed inflation, not Reagan. The funny thing is that, in November 1984-- when Reagan was reelected in a landslide because it was "Morning in America"-- unemployment was at 7.2 percent and inflation was over 4 percent, whereas unemployment is currently at 4.3 percent and inflation is at 2.9 percent. Thanks, Joe and Kamala!


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  • The Juggler
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    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris

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  • josevolution
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    Kamala Harris
    The Juggler said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Kamala Harris
    Lerxst1992 said:
    BF25394 said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
    What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

    Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

    Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
    We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

    The solution is stop printing money and artificially
    trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.


    Apple's products are not essentials. Even if you think you need a smartphone (which you don't), there are much cheaper alternatives to the iPhone. (And I say this as someone who has made a lot of money owning AAPL.)

    Paul Volcker tamed inflation, not Reagan. The funny thing is that, in November 1984-- when Reagan was reelected in a landslide because it was "Morning in America"-- unemployment was at 7.2 percent and inflation was over 4 percent, whereas unemployment is currently at 4.3 percent and inflation is at 2.9 percent. Thanks, Joe and Kamala!


    Apple Music is 100% essential!
    I can't abide streaming services.  
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