Harris vs Trump vs RFK Jr - VOTE NOW AND DISCUSS

mrussel1

Kamala Harris

benjs said:

If tips are tax-free, and salary isn't, why wouldn't both employers and employees want lower base salaries so they can earn more through tips which aren't subject to taxes? Wouldn't that effectively make tipping that much more important to an employee and realistically lead to a larger bill for customers? For shitty service, I still feel compelled to give 13% for the knowledge of how little servers will make if I don't. That number will have to increase if I know that the proportion of earning has shifted further towards tip-based compensation. 

That's exactly what would happen.  That's why I said earlier it would cause a total realignment of tipped jobs by employers, reducing their expenses.  The impact to the treasury would be material.  

Is 13% the tip rate in Canada?  20% in the States. 

benjs

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

If tips are tax-free, and salary isn't, why wouldn't both employers and employees want lower base salaries so they can earn more through tips which aren't subject to taxes? Wouldn't that effectively make tipping that much more important to an employee and realistically lead to a larger bill for customers? For shitty service, I still feel compelled to give 13% for the knowledge of how little servers will make if I don't. That number will have to increase if I know that the proportion of earning has shifted further towards tip-based compensation. 

That's exactly what would happen.  That's why I said earlier it would cause a total realignment of tipped jobs by employers, reducing their expenses.  The impact to the treasury would be material.  

Is 13% the tip rate in Canada?  20% in the States. 

15-18% is typical in Canada - I was saying that even as a worst-case, I feel the need to give 13% knowing that whether I like it or not, I'm subsidizing their wages, regardless of whether the job they did was good or not.

If this realignment is as severe as I expect it would be, it doesn't seem farfetched that one could expect a meal to cost 10-20% more just based on this change. 

BF25394

benjs said: 

15-18% is typical in Canada

But what is it in metric?

Poncier

BF25394 said:

benjs said: 

15-18% is typical in Canada

But what is it in metric?

3 Loonies, or if you prefer 1 Loonie and 1 Toonie.

BF25394

Poncier said:

BF25394 said:

benjs said: 

15-18% is typical in Canada

But what is it in metric?

3 Loonies, or if you prefer 1 Loonie and 1 Toonie.

I might have mentioned this before but, when I went to Vancouver for the shows, I thought carefully about how much cash I might need, and traded just that much U.S. money for Canadian (exchanging fee-free with the friend with whom I was staying, who splits time between Canada and the U.S. and thus has both Canadian and U.S. money on hand). I calibrated this so well that I got on the plane with a single loonie in my pocket. The friend who picked me up at the airport in L.A. had asked me to bring him something. I gave him the loonie.

Gern Blansten

Donald Trump

Tim Simmons

Kamala Harris

Johnny Abruzzo

Kamala Harris

Good numbers but polls ain't elections. Best to do some sort of volunteering activity to get out the vote.

https://votesaveamerica.com/vsa-2024/?source=web-popup&refcode=web-popup

curmudgeoness

Kamala Harris

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Good numbers but polls ain't elections. Best to do some sort of volunteering activity to get out the vote.

https://votesaveamerica.com/vsa-2024/?source=web-popup&refcode=web-popup

Yep. Good numbers, not good enough. Keep going.

Gern Blansten

Donald Trump

cblock4life

Kamala Harris

Gern Blansten said:

That is soooo telling.  Thanks for posting! 

Gern Blansten

Donald Trump

cblock4life said:

Gern Blansten said:

That is soooo telling.  Thanks for posting! 

I was a bit surprised with the lower income group...I would have thought that was tighter. Around me it seems like the tRump fans (judging by signs/flags) are in the worst houses/neighborhoods. 

Not surprised about tRump winning the poorly educated. He loves them so much. And that isn't an insult to those with just a high school degree. I know plenty that are smart and wealthy.

BF25394

Gern Blansten said:

cblock4life said:

Gern Blansten said:

That is soooo telling.  Thanks for posting! 

I was a bit surprised with the lower income group...I would have thought that was tighter. Around me it seems like the tRump fans (judging by signs/flags) are in the worst houses/neighborhoods. 

Not surprised about tRump winning the poorly educated. He loves them so much. And that isn't an insult to those with just a high school degree. I know plenty that are smart and wealthy.

The media have a major blind spot on this that probably contributes to your expectation. They consistently report that Democrats have trouble appealing to working-class voters, but that's not quite true. The issue is that Democrats have trouble appealing to white working-class voters. Democrats dominate the vote among black working-class voters and, to a lesser extent, Latino working-class voters. It's the tell that gives away that Trump's appeal to the white working class is not primarily about class; it's about what I'll charitably call culture.

mickeyrat

mrussel1

Kamala Harris

Just when you thought Trump couldn't be any more of a dickhead, he says this yesterday:

“I watched Sheldon sitting so proud in the White House when we gave Miriam the Presidential Medal of Freedom,” Trump said, speaking about Sheldon Adelson. “That’s the highest award you can get as a civilian, it’s the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor, but civilian version.”

“It’s actually much better because everyone gets the congressional Medal of Honor, that’s soldiers, they’re either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead,” he went on.

“She gets it, and she’s a healthy beautiful woman. And they’re rated equal. But she got the Presidential Medal of Freedom.”

Gern Blansten

Donald Trump

mrussel1 said:

Just when you thought Trump couldn't be any more of a dickhead, he says this yesterday:

“I watched Sheldon sitting so proud in the White House when we gave Miriam the Presidential Medal of Freedom,” Trump said, speaking about Sheldon Adelson. “That’s the highest award you can get as a civilian, it’s the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor, but civilian version.”

“It’s actually much better because everyone gets the congressional Medal of Honor, that’s soldiers, they’re either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead,” he went on.

“She gets it, and she’s a healthy beautiful woman. And they’re rated equal. But she got the Presidential Medal of Freedom.”

it's just unbelievable...as if giving it to her for donating money wasn't bad enough

Halifax2TheMax

Sure, repeal it and fuck both tax payers and the environment. Repubs, empty suits with no solutions for anything but more than happy to take advantage and take credit for something not one voted for.

CNN — 

Two years after President Joe Biden’s landmark climate law was signed, millions of Americans have used it to save millions of dollars on solar panels, appliances and home insulation.

Inflation Reduction Act tax credits for residential energy upgrades are going gangbusters, recent Treasury Department data shows, with more than 3.4 million households claiming $8.4 billion to help offset the cost of rooftop solar panels, solar water heaters, home batteries and heat pumps.

Americans are also using the tax credits to update their homes with new insulation that’s better at maintaining indoor temperatures and sealing their windows and doors so the cool air doesn’t pour out of the house into the summer heat.

White House national climate adviser Ali Zaidi told CNN the data shows the Inflation Reduction Act has “overachieved” in its first year – a remarkable success since polling has shown few Americans know anything about it.

“Across the board, when it comes to opening up choice to more affordable energy technologies, people are very much responding to that,” Zaidi said.

Rooftop solar and home insulation are the most popular home upgrades among Americans taking advantage of the cash; 752,000 households claimed credits for rooftop solar in the United States, while nearly 700,000 households claimed credits to insulate their homes and another 649,000 claimed credits to help seal their windows.

Tax credits for heat pumps – energy-efficient appliances that can both heat and cool homes – are being claimed at lower numbers, with around 268,000 households claiming credits for them and another 100,000 households claiming credits for heat pump water heaters.

Ari Matusiak, CEO of electrification nonprofit Rewiring America, told CNN more people may be jumping at the chance to buy solar panels than heat pumps because they are new features to add to a home. Most consumers aren’t going to run out and buy an electric heat pump until their current HVAC breaks.

Still, Matusiak pointed to signs of growth for these hyper-efficient heating and cooling systems.

“When you look at industry data overall, you can see that heat pumps are outpacing fossil fuel alternatives for the last two years, and that the gap is widening,” Matusiak told CNN. “Households are moving toward an electric future.”

The Treasury Department puts EV tax credits in a different bucket from residential ones, because Americans claim their vehicle tax credits directly at the dealership. Still, Americans have claimed over $1.5 billion worth of tax credits off 216,000 clean vehicles since January of this year.

And looking around the country, three states – California, Texas and Florida – make up more than 40% of the total credits claimed.

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, White House senior adviser for international climate policy John Podesta said he believed many IRA tax credits had sticking power and would be difficult to repeal even if former President Donald Trump and Republicans are elected in November.

“I think particularly the Inflation Reduction Act tax credits are very solid,” Podesta said.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/16/climate/ira-tax-credit-savings/index.html

Lerxst1992

mickeyrat said:

Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.

teskeinc

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.

Apparently there are big Pro-Palestian protests planned next week in Chicago. Kamala has no position on this other than wanting a ceasefire, but does nothing to help negotiate one. I don’t think this block will vote for Trump, just won’t vote at all and that will cost Dems Michigan.

mrussel1

Kamala Harris

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.

The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing