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  • teskeinc
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    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris
    Then why the POOTWH hissy fits?
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  • Tim Simmons
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    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris
    Election Day will prove one way or another. Until then we have polls and the polls look decent rn. 
  • teskeinc
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    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris
    Election Day will prove one way or another. Until then we have polls and the polls look decent rn. 
    At least you have time to stock up on groceries! Just in case.
  • Tim Simmons
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    Kamala Harris
    That makes no sense. 
  • mrussel1
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    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris
    Election Day will prove one way or another. Until then we have polls and the polls look decent rn. 
    At least you have time to stock up on groceries! Just in case.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris
    Yeah that's why the gop is panicking 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Did you see the 1950s food prop that never got mentioned yesterday? Just sat out in the sun and spoiled? Two hours and POOTWH never mentioned it. Weird.
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  • teskeinc
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    Gern Blansten said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris
    Yeah that's why the gop is panicking 
    No one is panicking….. Morning Joe tell you that?
  • gimmesometruth27
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    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Looking at the one including RFK, although much better than a month ago, there is trouble in those polls.  KH is consistently losing NV and GA looks like it will be tough. If she loses those two (assuming she doesn’t flip NC) she must take both PA and MI.


    and MI has a strong pro Palestinian population, which polling may not be picking up. Hopefully trump scares them more. But these polls look worse than 2020 when Biden barely won.
    The polls are still moving.  Momentum is a real thing
    Electoral College map looking grim for Harris
    Yeah that's why the gop is panicking 
    No one is panicking….. Morning Joe tell you that?
    no. we read maga posts on here every day.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    Kamala Harris
    Yikes

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/17/us/elections/kamala-harris-trump-az-nc-ga-nv.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,850
    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.

    its hopeful for sure. doesnt replace the need to actually vote.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    Kamala Harris
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
  • teskeinc
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    edited August 2024
    Tim Simmons said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
    What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

    Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

    Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
    We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

    The solution is stop printing money and artificially
    trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.


  • Go Beavers
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    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
    What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

    Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

    Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
    We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

    The solution is stop printing money and artificially
    trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.


    Would record level domestic energy production lower energy costs? 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,850
    edited August 2024
    Kamala Harris
    I think "literal disaster" is an overstatement. As much as you like her to be, she's not communist (and is not a genuine threat in America in 2024). I do agree its not the right plan though, especially for grocery. I do want to point out the worst US inflation oF aLl TiMe was after WWI. Not now.

    Also, for someone who is so concerned about liberals obsession with Trump, I do want to point out your obsession with liberal policies tipping the US over into communism, or economic collapse, or whatever can certainly come across as equally unhinged. Just thought you should know as you throw stones in your glass house. 

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  • gimmesometruth27
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    Kamala Harris
    Go Beavers said:
    teskeinc said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)


    I don’t trust any of it.
    we still have a lot of time too.
    What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

    Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

    Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
    We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

    The solution is stop printing money and artificially
    trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.


    Would record level domestic energy production lower energy costs? 
    i would think so. that is my gripe. we are drilling more domestic oil than we ever have before, but gas is still over 3 bucks a gallon. i don't get why. it would have to be price gouging i would think.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    Kamala Harris
    The recovery plans investment in clean energy would also help. 
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