Harris vs Trump vs RFK Jr - VOTE NOW AND DISCUSS

cincybearcat

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

There’s so many variables with a no tax on tips. 

Comes down to how you are paid too I guess. If you’re a casino dealer and all your tips are pooled and you get a share daily added to a weekly paycheck that’s easier to tax. But should it be?

What about Uber drivers. No one is getting taxed on $5 cash. But if it’s $5 on the app then you get taxed because there is a paper trail.

Independent Contractors , hairstylists, massage therapist that charge a flat amount but you want to show appreciation by giving extra. 

The government knows these are “tipping” professions… that’s why they want their share. If you’re really looking to help the middle class you don’t tax tips. That’s a big amount of money back in their pocket.

Those non-tipped employees who are actually getting tipped (salons, chipotle, etc.) are not paying taxes today.  That's totally under the table.  Uber drivers may be different because Uber is able to track that and can report that to the IRS as taxable income.  But if you tip in cash, obviously they aren't claiming it.  

This proposal is not about contractors and stylists.  It's about service and hospitality workers, who are considered "tipped" under federal law.  

Trump had a great idea, I guess. So much that Kamala endorsed it. So I guess there will be no tax on tips either way.

It’s yet another dumb idea that promises $ for votes…this time Trump started it…weird, must be desperate. 

teskeinc

cincybearcat said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

There’s so many variables with a no tax on tips. 

Comes down to how you are paid too I guess. If you’re a casino dealer and all your tips are pooled and you get a share daily added to a weekly paycheck that’s easier to tax. But should it be?

What about Uber drivers. No one is getting taxed on $5 cash. But if it’s $5 on the app then you get taxed because there is a paper trail.

Independent Contractors , hairstylists, massage therapist that charge a flat amount but you want to show appreciation by giving extra. 

The government knows these are “tipping” professions… that’s why they want their share. If you’re really looking to help the middle class you don’t tax tips. That’s a big amount of money back in their pocket.

Those non-tipped employees who are actually getting tipped (salons, chipotle, etc.) are not paying taxes today.  That's totally under the table.  Uber drivers may be different because Uber is able to track that and can report that to the IRS as taxable income.  But if you tip in cash, obviously they aren't claiming it.  

This proposal is not about contractors and stylists.  It's about service and hospitality workers, who are considered "tipped" under federal law.  

Trump had a great idea, I guess. So much that Kamala endorsed it. So I guess there will be no tax on tips either way.

It’s yet another dumb idea that promises $ for votes…this time Trump started it…weird, must be desperate. 

I heard Kamala is announcing she’s going to finish the wall too! When you have no platform, just steal your opponents.

njhaley1

Kamala Harris

Unreal! 

mrussel1

Kamala Harris

teskeinc said:

cincybearcat said:

teskeinc said:

mrussel1 said:

teskeinc said:

There’s so many variables with a no tax on tips. 

Comes down to how you are paid too I guess. If you’re a casino dealer and all your tips are pooled and you get a share daily added to a weekly paycheck that’s easier to tax. But should it be?

What about Uber drivers. No one is getting taxed on $5 cash. But if it’s $5 on the app then you get taxed because there is a paper trail.

Independent Contractors , hairstylists, massage therapist that charge a flat amount but you want to show appreciation by giving extra. 

The government knows these are “tipping” professions… that’s why they want their share. If you’re really looking to help the middle class you don’t tax tips. That’s a big amount of money back in their pocket.

Those non-tipped employees who are actually getting tipped (salons, chipotle, etc.) are not paying taxes today.  That's totally under the table.  Uber drivers may be different because Uber is able to track that and can report that to the IRS as taxable income.  But if you tip in cash, obviously they aren't claiming it.  

This proposal is not about contractors and stylists.  It's about service and hospitality workers, who are considered "tipped" under federal law.  

Trump had a great idea, I guess. So much that Kamala endorsed it. So I guess there will be no tax on tips either way.

It’s yet another dumb idea that promises $ for votes…this time Trump started it…weird, must be desperate. 

I heard Kamala is announcing she’s going to finish the wall too! When you have no platform, just steal your opponents.

Newt Gingrich's biggest complaint about Clinton was that he would take GOP ideas, make them his own, and beat them over the head with it.  It's actually quite smart to do that, politically speaking.  

BF25394

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

The "far left" is a very small sliver of the American body politic. I am not on the "far left." I have not been "programmed" by anyone. A reasonably intelligent, decent person shouldn't need propaganda to see Donald Trump for what he is: a congenital liar and malignant narcissist. I recognized him as a piece of shit in the 1980s when I was growing up in New York and couldn't have told you the first thing that distinguished Democrats and Republicans, including which party was on the left and which was on the right. He does not care about you. He cares only about himself. It is very frustrating for people like me, who belong to no party and are not doctrinaire in our beliefs, that so many people seem unable to see this. In 2016, I understand that some people wanted to try something different to shake up a system that they believed was broken. It was foolish and ill-informed-- the presidency is not an entry-level job, and the country is not a business-- but I understand it. But we've now seen this movie. It did not end well and does not merit a sequel. Trump completely mismanaged a major crisis and then tried to overturn an election. He still hasn't conceded that he lost. Why would anyone consider letting this guy anywhere near that kind of power again? He cannot be trusted with it.

Again, you fall into this MAGA trap of painting everyone who disagrees with you as a radical, but seem blind to just how radical the MAGA movement is.

Halifax2TheMax

Go Beavers said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

You get the whataboutism false equivalency gold medal of the day. 

Speaking of propaganda: BOO!

More than $247 million was spent in the first six months of this year on television, streaming platform and digital ads that mention immigration, according to AdImpact, which tracks campaign advertising. That is $40 million more than ads that mention any other issue.

Over 90 percent of the ads supported Republican candidates and were paid for by their campaigns or political action committees backing them.

The level of spending underscores how important Republicans view border security and immigration in this year’s elections. While polls show voters overall rank issues at the border as less important to them than the economy, inflation and protecting democracy, Republican voters consistently rank it as among the most important.

The Washington Post analyzed the transcripts, images and on-screen text featured in more than 700 campaign ads that mention immigration and that ran from January through June for the presidential and Senate races, as well as congressional primaries and major state campaigns.

Taken as a whole, the ads convey an unrealistic portrait of the border as being overrun and inaccurately characterize immigrants generally as a threat, of which there is little evidence. FBI data show U.S. border cities are among the nation’s safest. And a 2023 report from a group of economists found immigrants are at least 30 percent less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born individuals.

Republicans have made issues at the border central to their attacks on Harris in her effort to win the White House, dubbing her the “border czar” of the Biden administration and blaming her for crimes committed by immigrants. As vice president, she was directed by President Joe Biden to tackle the enduring root causes of unauthorized immigration. She, however, was never put in charge of the border nor labeled a “czar.”

Democrats ran a little more than three dozen ads about immigration, compared with almost 700 for Republicans. Of those ads, the most widely aired connected the issue of migration with calls to secure the border or crack down on fentanyl and violent crime. In the ads for Democrats, few showed migrants near a border.

While candidates have more options than ever before to get their messages to voters, television ad spending still ranks high on the list of expenditures. “If campaigns didn’t believe ads can matter, they wouldn’t be spending millions on buying time to air them,” said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center.

The majority of spending — over 80 percent — went to ads that never aired in states that border Mexico. The states that saw the most money spent on immigration ads were Ohio, Indiana and Montana, which have immigrant populations well below the national average but also have high-stakes races.

Trump won all three of those states in the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections. And this year, all three had competitive Republicans primaries for statewide races. But Ohio and Montana are particularly important for both parties: They have two of the most hotly contested Senate races where Democratic incumbents are facing tough challenges that could determine which party controls the chamber.

Over a third of the 745 ads included depictions of Border Patrol, soldiers or the military, sometimes paired with calls to “declare war” on drug cartels.

Around 20 percent of the ads referred to migrants as “illegals” or “aliens,” with around 7 percent choosing harsher words like “trafficker,” “rapist,” or “murderer.”

And around 10 percent of the 745 ads referenced migrants as invaders or the influx of migrants as an invasion.

In contrast, just 2 percent included the words “asylum,” “refugee,” or “undocumented.” And almost all of the ads from Republicans and their aligned groups portrayed refugees or asylum seekers as dangerous threats to the country, attacking candidates for perceived support of them.

The Post analysis found that nearly 20 percent of the 745 ads use footage and photos that are outdated, lack context, or are paired with voice-overs and text that do not accurately depict what is shown on the screen.

Dozens of ads criticize the Biden-Harris administration’s handling of the border, while showing chaotic scenes that were filmed in 2018 under the Trump administration. This video shows Central American migrants in Tijuana, Mexico, rushing the southern border. U.S. Border Patrol agents fired tear gas to repel the crowd, which included young children. The footage was taken during the Trump administration, but in dozens of ads, it is paired with voice-over and text tying it to Democrats. The Post reached out to the political action committees and campaigns that ran the ads shown below. None responded with a comment.

Nearly 30 percent of the ads mention cartels or drugs. MAGA Inc. and the National Republican Congressional Committee, as well as campaign committees supporting candidates in Virginia, South Carolina and Alabama, paid for ads that included visuals of cartels or anonymous gang members that are nearly a decade old; one shows a gang member interviewed by ABC News in El Salvador in 2016; another was from a 2015 book by photographer Adam Hinton that featured photographs he took in 2013 of gang members inside a prison in El Salvador.

The NRCC’s national press secretary, Will Reinert, responded to questions in a statement that didn’t address the outdated images. Instead, the statement pointed to Americans killed by migrants and said: “The Washington Post is running interference for the perpetrators instead of the victims. Pathetic.”

The Post reported in February that illegal border crossings had soared to record levels under Biden, averaging 2 million per year, from 2021 to 2023. However, after Trump rallied Republicans to defeat a bipartisan bill that would have expanded immigration enforcement, Biden tightened border restrictions. Illegal crossings have fallen in recent months to the lowest levels since 2020, according to the latest U.S. Customs and Border Protection data.

Trump has blamed Biden for inviting mass migration, and is pledging to close the border and deploy U.S. troops to carry out deportations if he’s elected in November, a position supported by most Americans in a recent poll. The same poll by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs found that Americans’ concerns about immigration have risen sharply this year, with 51 percent of Americans saying that the large number of immigrants and refugees entering the country is a “critical threat” to U.S. interests, up from 42 percent last fall to the highest level since 2010.

And while 44 percent of Americans said immigration mattered “a great deal” in their decisions of whom to vote for in the presidential election, 69 percent of Republicans said it mattered a great deal.o Democrats. The Post reached out to the political action committees and campaigns that ran the ads shown below. None responded with a comment.The ad above paid for by Zay, who ran for Indiana’s 3rd Congressional District and lost, uses stock footage of masked and armed men and a table of drugs as the words “cartels” and “human traffickers” flash on screen, as well as stock footage of an arrest, with his voice-over touting his record of having “cracked down on fentanyl dealers.” The Post reached out to Zay’s and Carl’s campaign representatives. None responded with a comment.

These ads use outdated o2024 election ads on immigration mislead voters - Washington Postr stock images as evidence to present migrants as violent and posing a danger to Americans. When asked about the ads analyzed by The Post, Michelle Mittelstadt, director of communications for the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute, said: “People would do well to remember they are seeing highly selected representations of immigration that are often filled with misinformation.”

Trump and the Republican Party’s depiction of the border as seen in their advertising is part of a broader trend, according to Mittelstadt. “We’ve really seen, and not just in the U.S., but over the last decade, far-right, nationalist and populist parties have latched on to immigration as a very effective issue to motivate their base and turnout support.”

“Some thinking that used to be reserved for the dark places of the internet — like the great replacement theory … now you see them on the airwaves across the United States,” she said.

“Terrorists and illegal immigrants are invading our country,” a voice-over says in one characteristic ad, from a group boosting John Curtis in Utah’s Republican Senate primary. “Young women sold into prostitution, terrorists and illegal immigrants invading our country.” The Post reached out to a representative at Conservative Values for Utah for comment and did not get a response.

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2024 election ads on immigration mislead voters - Washington Post

Halifax2TheMax

BF25394 said:

teskeinc said:

Tim Simmons said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Tim Simmons said:

Heres the tl;dr, or can’t read (user appropriate)

I don’t trust any of it.

we still have a lot of time too.

What’s happened when Kamala finally had to talk?

Yesterday was a literal disaster. She just added a communist talking point to her empty platform. Price control on an industry that profits are 1.6%. Not Apple whose profits are north of 20%.

Nixon tried this in the 70s. He froze wages and prices for 90 days. It worked short term, inflation slowed. He eased those restrictions, inflation returned. Nixon imposed stricter regulations, this time it failed leading to the greatest inflation of all time. Out of control until Reagan was able to curb it.
We are heading down that road again. Kamala’s plan would push us over the edge. 

The solution is stop printing money and artificially
trying to manipulate things. Lower energy costs and cost of doing business. More production of goods is paramount to slowing or stopping inflation. Not government handout programs or price controls.

Apple's products are not essentials. Even if you think you need a smartphone (which you don't), there are much cheaper alternatives to the iPhone. (And I say this as someone who has made a lot of money owning AAPL.)

Paul Volcker tamed inflation, not Reagan. The funny thing is that, in November 1984-- when Reagan was reelected in a landslide because it was "Morning in America"-- unemployment was at 7.2 percent and inflation was over 4 percent, whereas unemployment is currently at 4.3 percent and inflation is at 2.9 percent. Thanks, Joe and Kamala!

Plus, they can always get an ObamaPhone and if they're good, a free scooter!

Philly NJ

Donald Trump

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

mickeyrat

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

Harris made statements about this did she?

would you point me to those statements?

teskeinc

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

Facebook and social media worked with a political party to censor this. But the party saving Democracy was OK with the censorship because Orange Man Bad!

mickeyrat

the villages.....

https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch/post/C-03C0OPFZz/?xmt=AQGzO9-X4UapsrQpFp3HCASCrmvnc_P-baRLt_ukJVdGDQ

Halifax2TheMax

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

The original hard drives that the NY Post claimed to possess were never provided upon request by other news sites so they could also examine and verify what they claimed to possess.

Yes, the propaganda worked. On you. If it worked on me there’d be criminal charges that I would deny and not believe.

gimmesometruth27

Kamala Harris

teskeinc said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

Facebook and social media worked with a political party to censor this. But the party saving Democracy was OK with the censorship because Orange Man Bad!

why did marge greene show the dick pics on the house floor? i bet you heard all about those.

Philly NJ

Donald Trump

mrussel1 said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

How do we know you're deep in the Trump propaganda universe?  Because you're talking about Hunter's laptop four years later, when Biden isn't even running.  I didn't give a shit about that issue in 2020 and I sure as shit don't give a shit about it now.  Hunter's drug problem had and has no effect on Biden's policies or ability to govern.  You don't want to vote for Joe for "dad of the year", have at it. 

The hilarious irony about the whole issue is the GOP screaming "CENSORSHIP" because certain social media and media companies didn't highlight or allow posts about it.  First, they have a 1A right to do what they want.  Second, Trump was in charge of the DOJ when that happened.  So unless you can tell me how retired intelligence officers are "Big Censorship", you can stfu about something old and stupid. 

Nope, that was just an example of the propaganda and lies from Harris/Biden. I can give you more. It is amazing how you and many others on this site will brush away the Biden/Harris lies. You have no clue what is going on and/or just ignore it. The truth hurts. 

Below is from ABC News, dated 8/11/2024:

Prosecutors in special counsel David Weiss' office are accusing Hunter Biden of accepting payments from a Romanian businessman who was attempting to "influence U.S. government agencies," while his father Joe Biden was vice president.

If true, the allegation would mark the closest prosecutors have come to tying President Joe Biden to his son's overseas business endeavors -- a matter congressional Republicans have spent years scrutinizing.

The special counsel's claim, in a court filing Wednesday in the younger Biden's federal tax case, stems from Hunter Biden's work on behalf of Gabriel Popoviciu, a wealthy Romanian who prosecutors say hired the president's son for legal work in late 2015.

Popoviciu was at the time facing corruption charges in his home country.

At Hunter Biden's upcoming tax trial, "the government will introduce the evidence ... that [Hunter Biden] and Business Associate 1 received compensation from a foreign principal who was attempting to influence U.S. policy and public opinion and cause the United States to investigate the Romanian investigation of [Popoviciu] in Romania," prosecutors wrote in Wednesday's filing.

According to prosecutors, Hunter Biden and his business associate "were concerned that lobbying work might cause political ramifications for the defendant's father," so the deal was structured in a way that "concealed the true nature of the work he was performing."

The special counsel's office made a passing reference to Hunter Biden's work with Popoviciu in their December indictment. However, Wednesday's filing was the first to suggest that Hunter Biden was compensated in a lobbying capacity.

Prosecutors said Hunter Biden and two business partners split more than $3 million in payments from Popoviciu between November 2015 and 2017.

mrussel1

Kamala Harris

teskeinc said:

Philly NJ said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

Same for Repubs and magas with the immigration crisis. So, do tell, in what year will you be replaced?

Hunter’s laptop existed. Yes, we know that. The contents of which was what was in question. Turns out to have been a nothing burder but you fell for the propaganda that it proved Brandon’s corruption. I can’t wait for the October surprise. “10% to the big guy” proves this.

Say what? Do you know what was on the laptop? Why did Harris/Biden deny it? You are a case in point, the propaganda and lies worked on you and many on this site.

Facebook and social media worked with a political party to censor this. But the party saving Democracy was OK with the censorship because Orange Man Bad!

Hey the other day Trump said about giving a donor the Presidential Medal of Freedom:, “That’s the highest award you can get as a civilian. It’s the equivalent of the congressional Medal of Honor, but a civilian version,” Trump told attendees. 

“It’s actually much better, because everyone who gets the congressional Medal of Honor, that’s soldiers, they’re either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead. She gets it, and she’s a healthy, beautiful woman,” Trump said with a chuckle, eliciting applause from the crowd. “And they’re rated equal.”

So Trump denigrates war heroes and guess who didn't report on it... Fox News.  Nowhere on its site or on television.  Nothing about it on Truth Social either.  So is this censorship by a political party?

mrussel1

Kamala Harris

Philly NJ said:

mrussel1 said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

How do we know you're deep in the Trump propaganda universe?  Because you're talking about Hunter's laptop four years later, when Biden isn't even running.  I didn't give a shit about that issue in 2020 and I sure as shit don't give a shit about it now.  Hunter's drug problem had and has no effect on Biden's policies or ability to govern.  You don't want to vote for Joe for "dad of the year", have at it. 

The hilarious irony about the whole issue is the GOP screaming "CENSORSHIP" because certain social media and media companies didn't highlight or allow posts about it.  First, they have a 1A right to do what they want.  Second, Trump was in charge of the DOJ when that happened.  So unless you can tell me how retired intelligence officers are "Big Censorship", you can stfu about something old and stupid. 

Nope, that was just an example of the propaganda and lies from Harris/Biden. I can give you more. It is amazing how you and many others on this site will brush away the Biden/Harris lies. You have no clue what is going on and/or just ignore it. The truth hurts. 

Below is from ABC News, dated 8/11/2024:

Prosecutors in special counsel David Weiss' office are accusing Hunter Biden of accepting payments from a Romanian businessman who was attempting to "influence U.S. government agencies," while his father Joe Biden was vice president.

If true, the allegation would mark the closest prosecutors have come to tying President Joe Biden to his son's overseas business endeavors -- a matter congressional Republicans have spent years scrutinizing.

The special counsel's claim, in a court filing Wednesday in the younger Biden's federal tax case, stems from Hunter Biden's work on behalf of Gabriel Popoviciu, a wealthy Romanian who prosecutors say hired the president's son for legal work in late 2015.

Popoviciu was at the time facing corruption charges in his home country.

At Hunter Biden's upcoming tax trial, "the government will introduce the evidence ... that [Hunter Biden] and Business Associate 1 received compensation from a foreign principal who was attempting to influence U.S. policy and public opinion and cause the United States to investigate the Romanian investigation of [Popoviciu] in Romania," prosecutors wrote in Wednesday's filing.

According to prosecutors, Hunter Biden and his business associate "were concerned that lobbying work might cause political ramifications for the defendant's father," so the deal was structured in a way that "concealed the true nature of the work he was performing."

The special counsel's office made a passing reference to Hunter Biden's work with Popoviciu in their December indictment. However, Wednesday's filing was the first to suggest that Hunter Biden was compensated in a lobbying capacity.

Prosecutors said Hunter Biden and two business partners split more than $3 million in payments from Popoviciu between November 2015 and 2017.

I have every clue about what's going on.  The difference is that I understand the statutes in this country and that evidence is needed to prove charges.  So let's get to it.  Three questions:

1. What does this have to do with a laptop?
2. Did this actually influence Joe Biden?  Is there any evidence of US changing its policy towards Romania?
3. Is this a crime?  Doesn't appear to be.  Biden is being charged on a tax case, not on some "corruption" charge.  

Gern Blansten

Donald Trump

The trump moron campaign is benefiting right now... The liberal media isn't showing the internal emails that were leaked for some reason. 

gimmesometruth27

Kamala Harris

Gern Blansten said:

The trump moron campaign is benefiting right now... The liberal media isn't showing the internal emails that were leaked for some reason. 

because the media needs the electoral horserace.

if this was hillary in 2016 every outlet would have posted all of it.

mrussel1

Kamala Harris

Gern Blansten said:

The trump moron campaign is benefiting right now... The liberal media isn't showing the internal emails that were leaked for some reason. 

I would not be surprised if Iran gives them to a blogger or something.  

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

Philly NJ said:

mrussel1 said:

Philly NJ said:

pjhawks said:

honestly don't get any person with an iq over 50 that would still vote for Trump.  I would think even maybe smart hardcore republicans would just sit this one out to get rid of this guy from their party.  

IQ does not equal common sense. I see a whole lot of people on this site that have been programed by the far left. Propaganda is a powerful tool.  We are all susceptible to it. 

Here is a big propaganda operation that pretty much the entire far left fell for and still believe: Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe said it, Harris said, 51 former "intelligence" officers said it.  If you still believe it, you have a big propaganda susceptibility problem.

How do we know you're deep in the Trump propaganda universe?  Because you're talking about Hunter's laptop four years later, when Biden isn't even running.  I didn't give a shit about that issue in 2020 and I sure as shit don't give a shit about it now.  Hunter's drug problem had and has no effect on Biden's policies or ability to govern.  You don't want to vote for Joe for "dad of the year", have at it. 

The hilarious irony about the whole issue is the GOP screaming "CENSORSHIP" because certain social media and media companies didn't highlight or allow posts about it.  First, they have a 1A right to do what they want.  Second, Trump was in charge of the DOJ when that happened.  So unless you can tell me how retired intelligence officers are "Big Censorship", you can stfu about something old and stupid. 

Nope, that was just an example of the propaganda and lies from Harris/Biden. I can give you more. It is amazing how you and many others on this site will brush away the Biden/Harris lies. You have no clue what is going on and/or just ignore it. The truth hurts. 

Below is from ABC News, dated 8/11/2024:

Prosecutors in special counsel David Weiss' office are accusing Hunter Biden of accepting payments from a Romanian businessman who was attempting to "influence U.S. government agencies," while his father Joe Biden was vice president.

If true, the allegation would mark the closest prosecutors have come to tying President Joe Biden to his son's overseas business endeavors -- a matter congressional Republicans have spent years scrutinizing.

The special counsel's claim, in a court filing Wednesday in the younger Biden's federal tax case, stems from Hunter Biden's work on behalf of Gabriel Popoviciu, a wealthy Romanian who prosecutors say hired the president's son for legal work in late 2015.

Popoviciu was at the time facing corruption charges in his home country.

At Hunter Biden's upcoming tax trial, "the government will introduce the evidence ... that [Hunter Biden] and Business Associate 1 received compensation from a foreign principal who was attempting to influence U.S. policy and public opinion and cause the United States to investigate the Romanian investigation of [Popoviciu] in Romania," prosecutors wrote in Wednesday's filing.

According to prosecutors, Hunter Biden and his business associate "were concerned that lobbying work might cause political ramifications for the defendant's father," so the deal was structured in a way that "concealed the true nature of the work he was performing."

The special counsel's office made a passing reference to Hunter Biden's work with Popoviciu in their December indictment. However, Wednesday's filing was the first to suggest that Hunter Biden was compensated in a lobbying capacity.

Prosecutors said Hunter Biden and two business partners split more than $3 million in payments from Popoviciu between November 2015 and 2017.

I have every clue about what's going on.  The difference is that I understand the statutes in this country and that evidence is needed to prove charges.  So let's get to it.  Three questions:

1. What does this have to do with a laptop?
2. Did this actually influence Joe Biden?  Is there any evidence of US changing its policy towards Romania?
3. Is this a crime?  Doesn't appear to be.  Biden is being charged on a tax case, not on some "corruption" charge.  

If and when this ever results in charges and a guilty verdict or plea, I look forward to Brandon pardoning himself, claiming official presidential duties and thus immune, pardoning Hunter or Kamala pardoning them both, for a cut of course.

And then I’ll complain that “the system ruins ‘good people’.”