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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,349
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    visited dc and went to holocaust museum.

    view status quo situation as a blend of early nazi germany and apartheid.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    I agree with you T Berg's that they have other baggage, but it looks fairly obvious the money that supports Israel in politics will come down forcefully against Democrats who move against israel, and we better have something like that in our party, because if we don't Jewish Americans will not show up in November to vote against trump.

    I think it's obvious the Democrats have an Israel problem . I'd love for there to be a ceasefire, but we need the Palestinian government, if there even is one, to promise no more attacks against civilians during ceasefires. I'm not sure how we have any kind of treaty without that fundamental promise and if there is even a working government that could abide by that
    You should be holding the Israeli government to the same standards but I know that you won’t. And they have a well funded, functioning government with nuclear weapons and one of the most advanced militaries in the world.

    And while you’re at it, tell us about “mowing the lawn.”

    And their PM can be voted out at any time.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,301
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    I agree with you T Berg's that they have other baggage, but it looks fairly obvious the money that supports Israel in politics will come down forcefully against Democrats who move against israel, and we better have something like that in our party, because if we don't Jewish Americans will not show up in November to vote against trump.

    I think it's obvious the Democrats have an Israel problem . I'd love for there to be a ceasefire, but we need the Palestinian government, if there even is one, to promise no more attacks against civilians during ceasefires. I'm not sure how we have any kind of treaty without that fundamental promise and if there is even a working government that could abide by that
    You should be holding the Israeli government to the same standards but I know that you won’t. And they have a well funded, functioning government with nuclear weapons and one of the most advanced militaries in the world.

    And while you’re at it, tell us about “mowing the lawn.”

    And their PM can be voted out at any time.
    Too bad it’s not one person, one vote, eh? In the “only democracy in the Middle East?”
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    I agree with you T Berg's that they have other baggage, but it looks fairly obvious the money that supports Israel in politics will come down forcefully against Democrats who move against israel, and we better have something like that in our party, because if we don't Jewish Americans will not show up in November to vote against trump.

    I think it's obvious the Democrats have an Israel problem . I'd love for there to be a ceasefire, but we need the Palestinian government, if there even is one, to promise no more attacks against civilians during ceasefires. I'm not sure how we have any kind of treaty without that fundamental promise and if there is even a working government that could abide by that
    You should be holding the Israeli government to the same standards but I know that you won’t. And they have a well funded, functioning government with nuclear weapons and one of the most advanced militaries in the world.

    And while you’re at it, tell us about “mowing the lawn.”

    And their PM can be voted out at any time.
    And do tell us about mowing the lawn.
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  • pjl44
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    I agree with you T Berg's that they have other baggage, but it looks fairly obvious the money that supports Israel in politics will come down forcefully against Democrats who move against israel, and we better have something like that in our party, because if we don't Jewish Americans will not show up in November to vote against trump.

    I think it's obvious the Democrats have an Israel problem . I'd love for there to be a ceasefire, but we need the Palestinian government, if there even is one, to promise no more attacks against civilians during ceasefires. I'm not sure how we have any kind of treaty without that fundamental promise and if there is even a working government that could abide by that
    israel is going to suck us into that conflict in 6 months if nothing changes. bet on it. why is israel the only country that can legally interfere in our elections like this?
    Should the CAIR PAC be allowed to raise funds and donate to campaigns or is that also "interference?"
  • pjl44
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    Also, if we get sucked into a regional conflict it's partly due to the fact that there were Americans killed on 10/7, are American hostages being held by Hamas, and there have been dozens of attacks on American military bases.

    (For the record, I am deeply skeptical of the need for these bases and certainly do not want to see the US drawn into this conflict. But we also need to be clear-eyed about what Iran has been up to.)
  • gimmesometruth27
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    pjl44 said:
    Also, if we get sucked into a regional conflict it's partly due to the fact that there were Americans killed on 10/7, are American hostages being held by Hamas, and there have been dozens of attacks on American military bases.

    (For the record, I am deeply skeptical of the need for these bases and certainly do not want to see the US drawn into this conflict. But we also need to be clear-eyed about what Iran has been up to.)
    bibi is trying to suck us into the conflict. and if we do not change course, we will be there in 6 months. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Also, if we get sucked into a regional conflict it's partly due to the fact that there were Americans killed on 10/7, are American hostages being held by Hamas, and there have been dozens of attacks on American military bases.

    (For the record, I am deeply skeptical of the need for these bases and certainly do not want to see the US drawn into this conflict. But we also need to be clear-eyed about what Iran has been up to.)
    bibi is trying to suck us into the conflict. and if we do not change course, we will be there in 6 months. 
    Except Brandon’s not falling for it.
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  • mickeyrat
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Also, if we get sucked into a regional conflict it's partly due to the fact that there were Americans killed on 10/7, are American hostages being held by Hamas, and there have been dozens of attacks on American military bases.

    (For the record, I am deeply skeptical of the need for these bases and certainly do not want to see the US drawn into this conflict. But we also need to be clear-eyed about what Iran has been up to.)
    bibi is trying to suck us into the conflict. and if we do not change course, we will be there in 6 months. 

    if we are concerned about getting anericans held released(as we should rightly be), why should we put faith in a regime that doesnt seem to give a fuck about the release of their own citizens?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And we should be critical of Israel if we care about human rights.

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/two-palestinian-prisoners-martyred-due-to-torture-in-israeli

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/leaked-video-shows-israelis-sexually-assaulting-palestinian


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  • Lerxst1992
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    I agree with you T Berg's that they have other baggage, but it looks fairly obvious the money that supports Israel in politics will come down forcefully against Democrats who move against israel, and we better have something like that in our party, because if we don't Jewish Americans will not show up in November to vote against trump.

    I think it's obvious the Democrats have an Israel problem . I'd love for there to be a ceasefire, but we need the Palestinian government, if there even is one, to promise no more attacks against civilians during ceasefires. I'm not sure how we have any kind of treaty without that fundamental promise and if there is even a working government that could abide by that
    You should be holding the Israeli government to the same standards but I know that you won’t. And they have a well funded, functioning government with nuclear weapons and one of the most advanced militaries in the world.

    And while you’re at it, tell us about “mowing the lawn.”

    And their PM can be voted out at any time.
    And do tell us about mowing the lawn.

    Got no idea about that, but I do know I tried this line here after October 7th, I'm betting Kamala would get shouted down here as well..

    “If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that."
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,301
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    I agree with you T Berg's that they have other baggage, but it looks fairly obvious the money that supports Israel in politics will come down forcefully against Democrats who move against israel, and we better have something like that in our party, because if we don't Jewish Americans will not show up in November to vote against trump.

    I think it's obvious the Democrats have an Israel problem . I'd love for there to be a ceasefire, but we need the Palestinian government, if there even is one, to promise no more attacks against civilians during ceasefires. I'm not sure how we have any kind of treaty without that fundamental promise and if there is even a working government that could abide by that
    You should be holding the Israeli government to the same standards but I know that you won’t. And they have a well funded, functioning government with nuclear weapons and one of the most advanced militaries in the world.

    And while you’re at it, tell us about “mowing the lawn.”

    And their PM can be voted out at any time.
    And do tell us about mowing the lawn.

    Got no idea about that, but I do know I tried this line here after October 7th, I'm betting Kamala would get shouted down here as well..

    “If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that."
    C’mon, you know about mowing the lawn and what it references and by whom. You’re not stupid.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,988
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And we should be critical of Israel if we care about human rights.

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/two-palestinian-prisoners-martyred-due-to-torture-in-israeli

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/leaked-video-shows-israelis-sexually-assaulting-palestinian


    yep, for those not clicking the links, idf soldiers killing prisoners by raping them to death. 

    monsters.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,537
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And we should be critical of Israel if we care about human rights.

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/two-palestinian-prisoners-martyred-due-to-torture-in-israeli

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/leaked-video-shows-israelis-sexually-assaulting-palestinian


    yep, for those not clicking the links, idf soldiers killing prisoners by raping them to death. 

    monsters.
    Like Kamala says “if you want Donald Trump to win, then say that." You may be right, but rhetoric like that is one easy way to get us some more trump
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,301
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And we should be critical of Israel if we care about human rights.

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/two-palestinian-prisoners-martyred-due-to-torture-in-israeli

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/leaked-video-shows-israelis-sexually-assaulting-palestinian


    yep, for those not clicking the links, idf soldiers killing prisoners by raping them to death. 

    monsters.
    Who’s worse? The IDF forces being held and questioned for the crimes or the right wing Bibi supporting settlers who stormed the military base in an effort to free them?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,988
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And we should be critical of Israel if we care about human rights.

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/two-palestinian-prisoners-martyred-due-to-torture-in-israeli

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/leaked-video-shows-israelis-sexually-assaulting-palestinian


    yep, for those not clicking the links, idf soldiers killing prisoners by raping them to death. 

    monsters.
    Who’s worse? The IDF forces being held and questioned for the crimes or the right wing Bibi supporting settlers who stormed the military base in an effort to free them?
    the settlers. because they are the root of the ongoing conflict. and they likely think the soldiers being held are political prisoners, like maga does of jan 6 criminals.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And we should be critical of Israel if we care about human rights.

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/two-palestinian-prisoners-martyred-due-to-torture-in-israeli

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/leaked-video-shows-israelis-sexually-assaulting-palestinian


    yep, for those not clicking the links, idf soldiers killing prisoners by raping them to death. 

    monsters.
    Like Kamala says “if you want Donald Trump to win, then say that." You may be right, but rhetoric like that is one easy way to get us some more trump
    can't condemn the crime, can you?
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,537
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And we should be critical of Israel if we care about human rights.

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/two-palestinian-prisoners-martyred-due-to-torture-in-israeli

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/leaked-video-shows-israelis-sexually-assaulting-palestinian


    yep, for those not clicking the links, idf soldiers killing prisoners by raping them to death. 

    monsters.
    Like Kamala says “if you want Donald Trump to win, then say that." You may be right, but rhetoric like that is one easy way to get us some more trump
    can't condemn the crime, can you?
    War sucks and I hope it ends. Lasting peace requires all parties to be committed to keep it.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,301
    Lerxst1992 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And we should be critical of Israel if we care about human rights.

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/two-palestinian-prisoners-martyred-due-to-torture-in-israeli

    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/leaked-video-shows-israelis-sexually-assaulting-palestinian


    yep, for those not clicking the links, idf soldiers killing prisoners by raping them to death. 

    monsters.
    Like Kamala says “if you want Donald Trump to win, then say that." You may be right, but rhetoric like that is one easy way to get us some more trump
    can't condemn the crime, can you?
    War sucks and I hope it ends. Lasting peace requires all parties to be committed to keep it.
    You know, it’s not like Israeli violations of human rights, treaties, ceasefires and committing provocations aren’t known. There’s a lot of history there, from the Nakba to present day. Peace also requires a willing and dedicated partner.

    Now, tell us about mowing the lawn.
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    And tell us how you feel about the Israeli finance minister calling the starvation of 2,000,000 Palestinians “justified and moral?” Some “elected” government there, eh?

    Sounds pretty holocaust-ish, no?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/08/israel-finance-minister-bezalel-smotrich-gaza-starve-2m-people-comments
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