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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,740
    Wasn't his whole thing about focusing on the US and fucking over it's own citizens?
    Yes!

    muriKKKa! first

    Now all this discussion about occupying another country? And how many years would this shit take? trump would be long dead by the time it's done
    Doesn't he want to start a war, at latest in year 3. So he can Rosevelt himself into a third term?

    And in his eyes, what is a President without a nice CNN-covered war
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  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 11,349
    Wasn't his whole thing about focusing on the US and fucking over it's own citizens?
    Yes!

    muriKKKa! first

    Now all this discussion about occupying another country? And how many years would this shit take? trump would be long dead by the time it's done
    Doesn't he want to start a war, at latest in year 3. So he can Rosevelt himself into a third term?

    And in his eyes, what is a President without a nice CNN-covered war
    Wag the Dog!!

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,439
    Christ they are defending trump's comments as "thinking outside the box"....so the narrative is that he just meant that Palestinians would be "temporarily" rehomed to Jordan (or somewhere the fuck else) while their country is rebuilt.

    Yeah right
    😂😂 he’s like hey just move 1.7 million Palestinians as if they are rubble 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    Grovel, grovel Bibi. Good boy.

    “You say things others refuse to say,” Netanyahu said. “And after the jaws drop, people scratch their heads and they say, ‘You know, he’s right.’”
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,056
    edited February 5
    Obviously Bibi loves the idea. Clear them all out, let the US take over and then he'll hand it over to Israel before he leaves office. Maybe some of the Palestinians can come back and work at his Golf Club on the Gaza Strip.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,168
    tbergs said:
    Obviously Bibi loves the idea. Clear them all out, let the US take over and then he'll hand it over to Israel before he leaves office. Maybe some of the Palestinians can come back and work at his Golf Club on the Gaza Strip.
    You could kind of see that look on bibis face at the presser...it was a "holy shit I can't believe he is actually saying this" smirk
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    And the cleansing continues. Except it’s in that other Palestinian territory that attacked Israel on 10/07. Those peace loving people at it again because I’m sure it’s all justifiable and honourable. Just a matter of time before the West Bank is unliveable except for the “world people.” After the Palestinians are removed to “some nice piece of land.”

    Israel’s West Bank military operations continue, displacing thousands

    The Israeli military and settlers “have increased the use of extreme physical violence” against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank since the war in Gaza began in October 2023, according to a reportfrom Doctors Without Borders, as Israel continues weeks-long military operations that have displaced thousands in several parts of the West Bank.

    The Palestinian news agency Wafa reported Thursday that 25 people have been killed in the 17 days since Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced a major military operation against militants in the restive Jenin refugee camp. Israeli forces have destroyed 180 homes, cut off basic services in many areas and besieged a hospital, Wafa said.

    The Israel Defense Forces said Tuesday that its troops killed about 55 militants and arrested 380 people during counterterrorism operations in the West Bank in January. It said they would continue “to ensure the security of Israeli citizens.”

    On Sunday, the Israeli military blew up at least 20 buildings in Jenin. The U.N. Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), which aids Palestinian refugees, said in a statement the following day that the Jenin camp has become “a ghost town” in recent months. It said residents have “endured the impossible, facing nearly two months of unceasing and escalating violence.”

    Wafa also reported Thursday that the Israeli military was continuing its operation in the city and refugee camp of Tulkarm, which began more than a week ago, as well as separate operations, now in their fifth day, in the town of Tamoun and the nearby al-Faraa refugee camp.

    The Palestine Red Crescent Society wrote on social media Thursday that its teams “continue to provide relief support to the families” in the Tulkarm camp, “amid systematic destruction of infrastructure, including roads and streets.”

    Doctors Without Borders, known by its French abbreviation as MSF, said Monday that 20,000 residents in Jenin and 6,000 in Tulkarm have been forcibly displaced in the operations. Wafa reported Thursday that 15,000 have been displaced in the Jenin camp.

    At least 870 Palestinians were killed and more than 7,100 injured between October 2023 and last month, according to the MSF report issued Thursday. It also cited an increasing number of attacks on medical workers and facilities. Hospitals have been besieged, impeding patients’ access to treatment, and health-care workers have been harassed, MSF said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/02/06/trump-gaza-palestinian-displacement-israel/


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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    Have we begun demolition yet? Will be interesting to see the finished product. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,881
    “everything I disagree with = more dem nonsense that cost them the election”. 

    Absurd. 


    It’s obvious that Harris lost both Jewish and Muslim support this election by trying to play the middle. Both were huge dem supporters in the past.

    Perhaps read a poll or two before baseless attacks.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,881
    Two state solution is fine, but Palestine needs to negotiate disputed lands, sign a treaty and accept temporary oversight until the prove they are interested in peace and not take rebuilding money to line the pockets of Hamas.


    And it’s wrong of 47 to expect them to leave while they rebuild, although he thinks he is doing that as a favor to them since their country is rubble. They need to prove their peaceful intentions before oversight is discontinued. How did Japan respond to losing WWII? Did they lose their identity? Did they continue disputing Hawaii or did they accept temporary oversight, retain their culture and prosper?


    As far as China comparisons, more dem nonsense that cost them the election…did Taiwan lose a war? Gaza did, and losing should have some consequence.
    Gaza lost a war? Or Hamas operating inside Gaza cost innocent Palestinians their country?


    Yes they did. A war they started on Oct 7, with actual people invading Israel and killing women and children.

    My idea is better than what Japan got after WWII
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,881
    Two state solution is fine, but Palestine needs to negotiate disputed lands, sign a treaty and accept temporary oversight until the prove they are interested in peace and not take rebuilding money to line the pockets of Hamas.


    And it’s wrong of 47 to expect them to leave while they rebuild, although he thinks he is doing that as a favor to them since their country is rubble. They need to prove their peaceful intentions before oversight is discontinued. How did Japan respond to losing WWII? Did they lose their identity? Did they continue disputing Hawaii or did they accept temporary oversight, retain their culture and prosper?


    As far as China comparisons, more dem nonsense that cost them the election…did Taiwan lose a war? Gaza did, and losing should have some consequence.
    Countries who are interested in peace


    Seems the Israelis need the UN and some foreign governments to manage them because we know, they’re a peaceful nation. How are things in Lebanon these days? You know, the country that attacked Israel on 10/07? Like the West Bank?
    Chill with the attitude


    Maybe run that map throughout history, and include maps of the US Canada Australia and Europe to name a few.


    Yes , your rules only apply to one people from one moment in time.


    wonder why. Might as well admit it here already
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,883
    “everything I disagree with = more dem nonsense that cost them the election”. 

    Absurd. 


    It’s obvious that Harris lost both Jewish and Muslim support this election by trying to play the middle. Both were huge dem supporters in the past.

    Perhaps read a poll or two before baseless attacks.
    Not supporting genocide does not equal “playing the middle”. It’s called diplomacy. Trump lied, and now the ones who turned on dems are regretting it, a paltry 2 weeks into this administration. 

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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    Someone please update us when construction begins. Cheers 🍻 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    edited February 6
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.
    Fuck Israel too. Don’t get me started on them. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,883
    Trump Plaz-, um, I mean, Gaza Resort and Spa. 

    Now there’s the two state solution we were all hoping for. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,056
    edited February 6
    I like the freeze frame shot of Trump's COS, she immediately aged 20 years and probably had to stop herself from physically assaulting him as he promoted ethnic cleansing.


    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,881
    “everything I disagree with = more dem nonsense that cost them the election”. 

    Absurd. 


    It’s obvious that Harris lost both Jewish and Muslim support this election by trying to play the middle. Both were huge dem supporters in the past.

    Perhaps read a poll or two before baseless attacks.
    Not supporting genocide does not equal “playing the middle”. It’s called diplomacy. Trump lied, and now the ones who turned on dems are regretting it, a paltry 2 weeks into this administration. 

    Shocking, I know. 


    You’re the one supporting genocide by supporting Iran.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,883
    “everything I disagree with = more dem nonsense that cost them the election”. 

    Absurd. 


    It’s obvious that Harris lost both Jewish and Muslim support this election by trying to play the middle. Both were huge dem supporters in the past.

    Perhaps read a poll or two before baseless attacks.
    Not supporting genocide does not equal “playing the middle”. It’s called diplomacy. Trump lied, and now the ones who turned on dems are regretting it, a paltry 2 weeks into this administration. 

    Shocking, I know. 


    You’re the one supporting genocide by supporting Iran.
    I don't support Iran. you know, it's not black and white. 
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    The canadian response to that excellent post above is going to be pure gold. Im getting my popcorn 🍿 ready. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,881
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 


  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,883
    cuz we simply disagree with it? just maybe?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,196
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?
    They're the "other". Not capable of managing their affairs. Supposed to comply when their house is bulldozed and their land is stolen, or their children are shot by settlers for throwing stones. Stay in their place and know their place. How dare they. Its like 1948-49 never happened and that the map the Swede posted is a figment of some other reality that doesn't exist. From the river to the sea, indeed. Scatter them like the jews were scattered, right? Eye for an eye? Let me know when Hamas is defeated, will you, Lerx? And Iran, and Saudi Arabia, and the rest of the Middle East. Bibi has set Israel back decades. Ask the majority of Israelis but if you do, you're an antisemite.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,196
    As rainstorm and Trump blow through Gaza, residents say they will never leave - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/rainstorm-trump-blow-through-gaza-residents-say-they-will-never-leave-2025-02-06/
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    A recipe for radicalism: Jordan raises red flags over Trump's relocation plan - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/recipe-radicalism-jordan-raises-red-flags-over-trumps-relocation-plan-2025-02-06/
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,439
    Yeah just move folks by force so you can have sea side condos really humane! And who’s going to pay for the Palestinians new homes or are they just supposed to use cardboard to make shelter? This is vile behavior at best! 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    Bernie didn’t get the memo, being the antisemite he is.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,881
    cuz we simply disagree with it? just maybe?

    Yes. Disagreeing with more independence and wealth than was ever provided to Palestine from the international community.

    coming up with a plan that ensures the billions in reconstruction aid doesn’t end up lining the pockets of Iran and hamas, and lead to more war.

    at least admit to what you are supporting.
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