The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

MikeDigs said:

tomccfc87 said:

MikeDigs said:

Bunting10 said:

What is going on in here?  I had 60 unread and this is what I get?!? Haha.  

Anyways so the only real rumors are makeups in Europe based on Jeff’s comment and the sphere rumor right?  Those are the ones with some legs so far?

I hope they play Boston… again!! 

  the usual forum noise mostly.
A lot if hoping.  One actual rumor: The Sphere.
Some realization:  Pearl Jam Week 2025 sounds like an amazing option.  Less cities but amazing venues and 30+ song setlists.  The Gorge, Redrocks, Slane Castle, and Hyde Park?!  Yes please.

No way they are coming to Europe for just 2 shows it just doesn't make financial sense for a band to invest in all the expense of massive shows in europe to only do 2 of them.

Right, you have a great point, which is why the discussion in the Pearl Jam Week thread mentions that 3 cities per continent might work out best.  But since Europe and North America are such big markets, then perhaps 4 shows for each of those would be better.

So the Pearl Jam Week type shows could be something like...

London x 3 (Hyde Park?)
Berlin x 3
Amsterdam x 3
Prague x 3

The Gorge x 3
Redrocks x 3
Wrigley x 3
Philly x 3

Zen23 said:

They'd better start with one night at the O2 Arena. As soon as it's sold out and the ticket rush is measurably huge, you can activate the second night. Just like others do. Nothing wrong with that. If you think back to the number of empty seats at Tottenham Stadium in the first few weeks and months, one night at the O2 Arena would have been enough.

tomccfc87 said:

tino_11 said:

Zen23 said:

They'd better start with one night at the O2 Arena. As soon as it's sold out and the ticket rush is measurably huge, you can activate the second night. Just like others do. Nothing wrong with that. If you think back to the number of empty seats at Tottenham Stadium in the first few weeks and months, one night at the O2 Arena would have been enough.

I agree that would be a sensible move. 

PJ have always attracted big numbers in London and I'm highly confident demand is still there. They just need to take the lessons from a) ticket prices, b) timing of the announcement and c) avoiding big date clashes (like Glastonbury and Green Day at Wembley)

I think playing multiple smaller shows may still cause problems with people who had tickets last time not being able to get them for the return shows. They had still sold well in excess of 40,000 tickets for Tottenham even if it wasn't sold out (I think they were around 50,000 sold). With O2 Arena holding 20,000, 2 nights would not guarantee everyone who bought tickets this year a decent chance at getting them for one of those 2 shows especially when a lot of people will try for both nights. They could always go for 3 nights at the O2 but that still creates problems with some days being higher demand than others and more casual fans who were expecting a hits setlist at Tottenham this year potentially getting booked on a night where they play more deep cuts (there were a *LOT* of complaints about night 2 at Hyde Park not including enough hits after most were played on night 1 in 2022, especially given that night 2 fell on a Saturday when more casual fans had booked tickets)

Whilst personally I would prefer to see them in a smaller indoor show I think the best solution in terms of being fair to those who had tickets last time would be to play Tottenham (or a similar sized venue) again with everyone who had tickets last time being given priority. Then, as you say, maybe look at lowering prices and/or not booking on a date that clashes with other big events to help sell the remaining tickets. 

tomccfc87 said:

MikeDigs said:

tomccfc87 said:

MikeDigs said:

Bunting10 said:

What is going on in here?  I had 60 unread and this is what I get?!? Haha.  

Anyways so the only real rumors are makeups in Europe based on Jeff’s comment and the sphere rumor right?  Those are the ones with some legs so far?

I hope they play Boston… again!! 

  the usual forum noise mostly.
A lot if hoping.  One actual rumor: The Sphere.
Some realization:  Pearl Jam Week 2025 sounds like an amazing option.  Less cities but amazing venues and 30+ song setlists.  The Gorge, Redrocks, Slane Castle, and Hyde Park?!  Yes please.

No way they are coming to Europe for just 2 shows it just doesn't make financial sense for a band to invest in all the expense of massive shows in europe to only do 2 of them.

Right, you have a great point, which is why the discussion in the Pearl Jam Week thread mentions that 3 cities per continent might work out best.  But since Europe and North America are such big markets, then perhaps 4 shows for each of those would be better.

So the Pearl Jam Week type shows could be something like...

London x 3 (Hyde Park?)
Berlin x 3
Amsterdam x 3
Prague x 3

The Gorge x 3
Redrocks x 3
Wrigley x 3
Philly x 3

Not a chance they could ever play 3 nights in Hyde Park. The 2 nights they did in 2022 were not fully sold out so adding a 3rd night would make no sense. They didn't even sell out Tottenham Stadium for one night this year and that has a capacity slightly lower than Hyde Park. Realistically if they are going to play 3 nights in London it could only really be at the O2 Arena which would roughly equal the same ticket sales as one night at Tottenham or Hyde Park. 

It's also highly unlikely that BST Festival which puts on the concerts at Hyde Park would invite PJ back so soon after headlining 2 nights in 2022. They book a massively eclectic range of acts ranging through classical to K-pop to rock. So it's not like they have a limited number of acts they can call on to headline like some more specialised festivals.

I suspect that if they are coming back to London it they will try another stadium show either at Tottenham or maybe the Olympic Stadium depending on which is available. Both are roughly equal in size and hold concerts every summer. And although Tottenham didn't sell out this year they would have to assume that the majority who bought tickets this year will still want to go to a re-scheduled date so they need to be able to accommodate that many with a bit of additional capacity so as to not shut out people who didn't book tickets last time but who still want to go next summer.

tomccfc87 said:

tino_11 said:

Zen23 said:

They'd better start with one night at the O2 Arena. As soon as it's sold out and the ticket rush is measurably huge, you can activate the second night. Just like others do. Nothing wrong with that. If you think back to the number of empty seats at Tottenham Stadium in the first few weeks and months, one night at the O2 Arena would have been enough.

I agree that would be a sensible move. 

PJ have always attracted big numbers in London and I'm highly confident demand is still there. They just need to take the lessons from a) ticket prices, b) timing of the announcement and c) avoiding big date clashes (like Glastonbury and Green Day at Wembley)

I think playing multiple smaller shows may still cause problems with people who had tickets last time not being able to get them for the return shows. They had still sold well in excess of 40,000 tickets for Tottenham even if it wasn't sold out (I think they were around 50,000 sold). With O2 Arena holding 20,000, 2 nights would not guarantee everyone who bought tickets this year a decent chance at getting them for one of those 2 shows especially when a lot of people will try for both nights.

seanclax said:

tomccfc87 said:

tino_11 said:

Zen23 said:

They'd better start with one night at the O2 Arena. As soon as it's sold out and the ticket rush is measurably huge, you can activate the second night. Just like others do. Nothing wrong with that. If you think back to the number of empty seats at Tottenham Stadium in the first few weeks and months, one night at the O2 Arena would have been enough.

I agree that would be a sensible move. 

PJ have always attracted big numbers in London and I'm highly confident demand is still there. They just need to take the lessons from a) ticket prices, b) timing of the announcement and c) avoiding big date clashes (like Glastonbury and Green Day at Wembley)

I think playing multiple smaller shows may still cause problems with people who had tickets last time not being able to get them for the return shows. They had still sold well in excess of 40,000 tickets for Tottenham even if it wasn't sold out (I think they were around 50,000 sold). With O2 Arena holding 20,000, 2 nights would not guarantee everyone who bought tickets this year a decent chance at getting them for one of those 2 shows especially when a lot of people will try for both nights. They could always go for 3 nights at the O2 but that still creates problems with some days being higher demand than others and more casual fans who were expecting a hits setlist at Tottenham this year potentially getting booked on a night where they play more deep cuts (there were a *LOT* of complaints about night 2 at Hyde Park not including enough hits after most were played on night 1 in 2022, especially given that night 2 fell on a Saturday when more casual fans had booked tickets)

Whilst personally I would prefer to see them in a smaller indoor show I think the best solution in terms of being fair to those who had tickets last time would be to play Tottenham (or a similar sized venue) again with everyone who had tickets last time being given priority. Then, as you say, maybe look at lowering prices and/or not booking on a date that clashes with other big events to help sell the remaining tickets. 

The recent trend of playing 2 shows in the same city with vastly different setlist.. 

seanclax said:

tomccfc87 said:

tino_11 said:

Zen23 said:

They'd better start with one night at the O2 Arena. As soon as it's sold out and the ticket rush is measurably huge, you can activate the second night. Just like others do. Nothing wrong with that. If you think back to the number of empty seats at Tottenham Stadium in the first few weeks and months, one night at the O2 Arena would have been enough.

I agree that would be a sensible move. 

PJ have always attracted big numbers in London and I'm highly confident demand is still there. They just need to take the lessons from a) ticket prices, b) timing of the announcement and c) avoiding big date clashes (like Glastonbury and Green Day at Wembley)

I think playing multiple smaller shows may still cause problems with people who had tickets last time not being able to get them for the return shows. They had still sold well in excess of 40,000 tickets for Tottenham even if it wasn't sold out (I think they were around 50,000 sold). With O2 Arena holding 20,000, 2 nights would not guarantee everyone who bought tickets this year a decent chance at getting them for one of those 2 shows especially when a lot of people will try for both nights. They could always go for 3 nights at the O2 but that still creates problems with some days being higher demand than others and more casual fans who were expecting a hits setlist at Tottenham this year potentially getting booked on a night where they play more deep cuts (there were a *LOT* of complaints about night 2 at Hyde Park not including enough hits after most were played on night 1 in 2022, especially given that night 2 fell on a Saturday when more casual fans had booked tickets)

Whilst personally I would prefer to see them in a smaller indoor show I think the best solution in terms of being fair to those who had tickets last time would be to play Tottenham (or a similar sized venue) again with everyone who had tickets last time being given priority. Then, as you say, maybe look at lowering prices and/or not booking on a date that clashes with other big events to help sell the remaining tickets. 

I don't think you can plan a tour on the basis of keeping casual fans happy.
The recent trend of playing 2 shows in the same city with vastly different setlists is bound to continue and so it should.
If they play 2 nights at the o2 I'd say at least 25% of the Audience will be at both nights.
I'd rather see them sell out straight away than have the desperation we saw at Tottenham in June with them struggling to sell tickets.