With the way ticket sales were for London and Berlin, the promoter probably had no interest in rescheduling and was happy to cancel. Then if/when PJ comes back their guarantee from the promoter will likely be lower than it was in 2024.
Considering they got paid off of an anticipated full stadium and double arena dates, their guarantee should be significantly different. The one price fits all and no seat disclosure at time of purchase just doesn’t work in most locations anymore.
They’d make a ton of fans happy and hopefully southeast (outside of FL) finally gets some shows which is great, but there is 2024 PJ Tour economic data they’d be ignoring with that itinerary. SA would be a hit, but Euro has spoken. And with perhaps a handful of years of touring left, for two more years they’d be ignoring doing a full tour again of the one region that would overwhelmingly draw fans and revenue.
Lolla South America officially announced and no PJ.
So any South American dates will be OG PJ shows
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
Lolla South America officially announced and no PJ.
So any South American dates will be OG PJ shows
Hopefully.
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Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel)
I have yet to get to Rogers Centre, Progressive Field, or Truist Park on my ballpark tour, so I'd probably travel to any of these if the schedules lined up. Honestly, I feel spoiled being in Chicago, having them here each of the last two years and a quick trip to St. Louis before that. Five shows in three years without needing a flight. Made up for three years with nothing, but we all went through that.
San Jose - Bogota - Lima - Santiago x2 - Buenos Aires x2 - Sao Paulo x2 - Mexico City x2
London x2 - Berlin - Prague - Vienna - Zagreb - Milan x2 - Amsterdam x2
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel) - New Orleans - Miami x2
October 2026: Sphere x10
Is this a legit rumour?
I’m guessing it is not, because even Cleveland x1 is a wild and crazy dream at this point lol
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
San Jose - Bogota - Lima - Santiago x2 - Buenos Aires x2 - Sao Paulo x2 - Mexico City x2
London x2 - Berlin - Prague - Vienna - Zagreb - Milan x2 - Amsterdam x2
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel) - New Orleans - Miami x2
October 2026: Sphere x10
Is this a legit rumour?
There really aren’t any strong rumours at all at the moment. Just Facemeltor replying to someone’s post about the Sphere and Jeff saying he hoped to return to London and Berlin next year. That is it.
Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane. It's got no use on the inside. You better get used to that idea. Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel)
I have yet to get to Rogers Centre, Progressive Field, or Truist Park on my ballpark tour, so I'd probably travel to any of these if the schedules lined up. Honestly, I feel spoiled being in Chicago, having them here each of the last two years and a quick trip to St. Louis before that. Five shows in three years without needing a flight. Made up for three years with nothing, but we all went through that.
Rogers Centee would be a terrible disservice to the fan and band. Probably the worst sound for a stadium venue. Downsview outdoors would be best for all involved, but won’t happen.
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel)
I have yet to get to Rogers Centre, Progressive Field, or Truist Park on my ballpark tour, so I'd probably travel to any of these if the schedules lined up. Honestly, I feel spoiled being in Chicago, having them here each of the last two years and a quick trip to St. Louis before that. Five shows in three years without needing a flight. Made up for three years with nothing, but we all went through that.
Rogers Centee would be a terrible disservice to the fan and band. Probably the worst sound for a stadium venue. Downsview outdoors would be best for all involved, but won’t happen.
Rogers Center is a bomb shelter masquerading as a baseball stadium. If a nuclear holocaust actually happens and I was in toronto, I know where I would hide. There's more concrete in that one building that most major US cities.
So yea, of course the acoustics are fucking terrible.
ScotiaBank or bust... my only memories of downsview are the TTH on Canada Day, and I want to keep it that way. Budweiser stage I can deal with, but with the ongoing construction in the area, I'd prefer not to visit again until they're done.
I'm formally campaigning (willing) 2 spring dates in March or April for my next T.O trip... can't wait! Gonna be a blast!
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
It was already a very strange European tour, I hope they can come in 2025. Even if is only 3 or 4 shows. I could only make it to Madrid, I had tickets for both days in Berlin
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel)
I have yet to get to Rogers Centre, Progressive Field, or Truist Park on my ballpark tour, so I'd probably travel to any of these if the schedules lined up. Honestly, I feel spoiled being in Chicago, having them here each of the last two years and a quick trip to St. Louis before that. Five shows in three years without needing a flight. Made up for three years with nothing, but we all went through that.
Rogers Centee would be a terrible disservice to the fan and band. Probably the worst sound for a stadium venue. Downsview outdoors would be best for all involved, but won’t happen.
Rogers Center is a bomb shelter masquerading as a baseball stadium. If a nuclear holocaust actually happens and I was in toronto, I know where I would hide. There's more concrete in that one building that most major US cities.
So yea, of course the acoustics are fucking terrible.
ScotiaBank or bust... my only memories of downsview are the TTH on Canada Day, and I want to keep it that way. Budweiser stage I can deal with, but with the ongoing construction in the area, I'd prefer not to visit again until they're done.
I'm formally campaigning (willing) 2 spring dates in March or April for my next T.O trip... can't wait! Gonna be a blast!
Hamilton > Scotiabank Arena >> Rogers Centre. Not quite sure if they are done the renovation of the arena in Hamilton, but it was great last time.
Rogers Centre has been completely redone for baseball and is much improved. As a concert venue, it is horrible.
A Cleveland show would pose some difficulties. The arena is owned by Dan Gilbert and is exclusively a SeatGeek venue, so no Ticketmaster involvement. Not sure if it is the same for Progressive field or not.
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
San Jose - Bogota - Lima - Santiago x2 - Buenos Aires x2 - Sao Paulo x2 - Mexico City x2
London x2 - Berlin - Prague - Vienna - Zagreb - Milan x2 - Amsterdam x2
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel) - New Orleans - Miami x2
October 2026: Sphere x10
Is this a legit rumour?
I’m guessing it is not, because even Cleveland x1 is a wild and crazy dream at this point lol
And Syracuse after that…😁
I know you’re mocking our fair city but maybe this post inspires them to come here so I’ll let it slide. This time.
As a Le Moyne graduate, I am down for a Syracuse show. Saw Billy Joel at the Carrier Dome when in college. PJ can fill it.
2003 Mansfield III 2004 Boston I 2006 Boston I 2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I 2010 Hartford 2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford 2016 Bonnaroo, Fenway I, Fenway II 2018 Fenway I, Fenway II 2021 Sea.Hear.Now 2022 Camden 2024 MSG I, Fenway I, Fenway II
San Jose - Bogota - Lima - Santiago x2 - Buenos Aires x2 - Sao Paulo x2 - Mexico City x2
London x2 - Berlin - Prague - Vienna - Zagreb - Milan x2 - Amsterdam x2
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel) - New Orleans - Miami x2
October 2026: Sphere x10
Is this a legit rumour?
I’m guessing it is not, because even Cleveland x1 is a wild and crazy dream at this point lol
And Syracuse after that…😁
I know you’re mocking our fair city but maybe this post inspires them to come here so I’ll let it slide. This time.
As a Le Moyne graduate, I am down for a Syracuse show. Saw Billy Joel at the Carrier Dome when in college. PJ can fill it.
I saw Billy Joel there too when I was at Syracuse. What year did you see him? I think the one I went to was 1998.
1998: Mansfield, MA (9/15) 2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30) 2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9) 2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25) 2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24) 2010: Boston, MA (5/17) 2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4) 2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25) 2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7) 2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4) 2022: Camden, NJ (9/14) 2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
Not to be “that guy”, but now that I’m done for 2024 it’s time to start following this thread, and it’s just too big for me to catch up on. Is there anything real yet or are we still in wishcasting territory?
Not to be “that guy”, but now that I’m done for 2024 it’s time to start following this thread, and it’s just too big for me to catch up on. Is there anything real yet or are we still in wishcasting territory?
Great question actually, there are a lot of pages in this thread. In summary, I think the closest rumor to truth seemed like some Sphere performances. And a social media post by Jeff about coming back to London and Berlin.
Other than that we are really wishing and manifesting.
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel)
I have yet to get to Rogers Centre, Progressive Field, or Truist Park on my ballpark tour, so I'd probably travel to any of these if the schedules lined up. Honestly, I feel spoiled being in Chicago, having them here each of the last two years and a quick trip to St. Louis before that. Five shows in three years without needing a flight. Made up for three years with nothing, but we all went through that.
Rogers Centee would be a terrible disservice to the fan and band. Probably the worst sound for a stadium venue. Downsview outdoors would be best for all involved, but won’t happen.
Rogers Center is a bomb shelter masquerading as a baseball stadium. If a nuclear holocaust actually happens and I was in toronto, I know where I would hide. There's more concrete in that one building that most major US cities.
So yea, of course the acoustics are fucking terrible.
ScotiaBank or bust... my only memories of downsview are the TTH on Canada Day, and I want to keep it that way. Budweiser stage I can deal with, but with the ongoing construction in the area, I'd prefer not to visit again until they're done.
I'm formally campaigning (willing) 2 spring dates in March or April for my next T.O trip... can't wait! Gonna be a blast!
Hell no to Rogers Centre. I'd be down for 2 nights at Scotiabank or the Amphitheatre.
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel)
I have yet to get to Rogers Centre, Progressive Field, or Truist Park on my ballpark tour, so I'd probably travel to any of these if the schedules lined up. Honestly, I feel spoiled being in Chicago, having them here each of the last two years and a quick trip to St. Louis before that. Five shows in three years without needing a flight. Made up for three years with nothing, but we all went through that.
Rogers Centee would be a terrible disservice to the fan and band. Probably the worst sound for a stadium venue. Downsview outdoors would be best for all involved, but won’t happen.
Rogers Center is a bomb shelter masquerading as a baseball stadium. If a nuclear holocaust actually happens and I was in toronto, I know where I would hide. There's more concrete in that one building that most major US cities.
So yea, of course the acoustics are fucking terrible.
ScotiaBank or bust... my only memories of downsview are the TTH on Canada Day, and I want to keep it that way. Budweiser stage I can deal with, but with the ongoing construction in the area, I'd prefer not to visit again until they're done.
I'm formally campaigning (willing) 2 spring dates in March or April for my next T.O trip... can't wait! Gonna be a blast!
Hamilton > Scotiabank Arena >> Rogers Centre. Not quite sure if they are done the renovation of the arena in Hamilton, but it was great last time.
Rogers Centre has been completely redone for baseball and is much improved. As a concert venue, it is horrible.
The renos to First Ontario Centre in Hamilton are still on going and scheduled to be completed in 2025. I was reading that they do have shows already booked for 2025 so take that for what its worth... maybe PJ? No reason why they cant do 1 night in Toronto and 1 in Hamlton like in the past.
Not to be “that guy”, but now that I’m done for 2024 it’s time to start following this thread, and it’s just too big for me to catch up on. Is there anything real yet or are we still in wishcasting territory?
The only things really real are some strong Vegas Sphere rumors.
There is hope for Europe summer 2025 but nothing solid.
There were rumors of South America in March/April 2025, however Lollapalooza has announced, and we are getting somewhat late for a South American announcement historically, so not sure if this will pan out or not.
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
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London x2 - Berlin - Prague - Vienna - Zagreb - Milan x2 - Amsterdam x2
Toronto x2 (Buffalo travels) - Cleveland x2 (Michigan and Pitt travel) - Atlanta x2 (Carolina’s travel) - New Orleans - Miami x2
October 2026: Sphere x10
So any South American dates will be OG PJ shows
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.
Not 2025? My bank account thanks you.
So yea, of course the acoustics are fucking terrible.
ScotiaBank or bust... my only memories of downsview are the TTH on Canada Day, and I want to keep it that way. Budweiser stage I can deal with, but with the ongoing construction in the area, I'd prefer not to visit again until they're done.
I'm formally campaigning (willing) 2 spring dates in March or April for my next T.O trip... can't wait! Gonna be a blast!
Rogers Centre has been completely redone for baseball and is much improved. As a concert venue, it is horrible.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
2004 Boston I
2006 Boston I
2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I
2010 Hartford
2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Bonnaroo, Fenway I, Fenway II
2018 Fenway I, Fenway II
2021 Sea.Hear.Now
2022 Camden
2024 MSG I, Fenway I, Fenway II
2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4)
2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25)
2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
Other than that we are really wishing and manifesting.
2011: Canadian Tour
2025: time for another Canadian tour with New England. All albums and Lost Dogs on shuffle.
Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11
Toronto 03, 06, 11
Ottawa 05, 11
Quebec 05; Saratoga 00; Boston 04; Toledo 04
Albany 06; Honolulu 06; Hartford 08
Costa Rica 11
London (Ont.), Hartford 13
Quebec, Fenway 1 + 2 16; London 18
EV Montreal (2), Berkeley II, Albany, Boston, London (UK)
There is hope for Europe summer 2025 but nothing solid.
There were rumors of South America in March/April 2025, however Lollapalooza has announced, and we are getting somewhat late for a South American announcement historically, so not sure if this will pan out or not.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore