yea... that's not going to happen. you'll remain overdue, just like Houston. If i could never set foot in most of those states again, I wouldn't. can't see why people with a choice would either. (the same applies for Houston, and I live here).
Back to talking about my spring show in toronto.
Right, I keep seeing these kind of requests for a standard tour, hit some cities and continue the 25 song set lists with lots of hits to cater to the casuals, not to mention the low crowd energy (Philly is my standard, so low energy irks me).
Or... Wouldn't you rather have our favorite legendary band, play 3 legendary shows (PJ20 style), at a legendary location??
One of these things is not like the other people... Standard greatest hits show hitting random cities, or a legendary show at a legendary location with fucking rare gems songs and deep cuts. Seems an easy choice to me!
The obvious choices to me, for Pearl Jam Week 2025 shows, would be The Gorge and Philadelphia. And for London, Hyde Park seems great. Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band. Vote Pearl Jam Week for 2025!
yea... that's not going to happen. you'll remain overdue, just like Houston. If i could never set foot in most of those states again, I wouldn't. can't see why people with a choice would either. (the same applies for Houston, and I live here).
Back to talking about my spring show in toronto.
Right, I keep seeing these kind of requests for a standard tour, hit some cities and continue the 25 song set lists with lots of hits to cater to the casuals, not to mention the low crowd energy (Philly is my standard, so low energy irks me).
Or... Wouldn't you rather have our favorite legendary band, play 3 legendary shows (PJ20 style), at a legendary location??
One of these things is not like the other people... Standard greatest hits show hitting random cities, or a legendary show at a legendary location with fucking rare gems songs and deep cuts. Seems an easy choice to me!
The obvious choices to me, for Pearl Jam Week 2025 shows, would be The Gorge and Philadelphia. And for London, Hyde Park seems great. Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band. Vote Pearl Jam Week for 2025!
Is this what the “Project 2025” was that they were referring to last night? Lol
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Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.
The problem is that we AREN'T saying that, and we DON'T want that, and the few people that do promote this over and over again is because that is literally what the band is doing and has been doing post-covid.
But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?
Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.
But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?
Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.
The problem is that we AREN'T saying that, and we DON'T want that, and the few people that do promote this over and over again is because that is literally what the band is doing and has been doing post-covid.
But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?
You may not be, but I've many that are saying that. Also, I'm not sure you are understanding. You mentioned Pearl Jam Week, and then directly compared it to the standard tour. Maybe you missed some details, but the idea of Pearl Jam Week is not to repeat. Not standard tour. Legendary shows. Not going to repeat all details here to you when they are in the message that you quoted, as well as the Pearl Jam Week thread.
"Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?" This is blatantly incorrect and never mentioned as a detail of Pearl Jam Week. How would you even consider that "Legendary"?
Some of the main reasons that I proposed the Pearl Jam Week concept, are more songs, less repeats, more deep cuts. It is written in the thread.
Right, I keep seeing these kind of requests for a standard tour, hit some cities and continue the 25 song set lists with lots of hits to cater to the casuals, not to mention the low crowd energy (Philly is my standard, so low energy irks me).
Or... Wouldn't you rather have our favorite legendary band, play 3 legendary shows (PJ20 style), at a legendary location??
One of these things is not like the other people... Standard greatest hits show hitting random cities, or a legendary show at a legendary location with fucking rare gems songs and deep cuts. Seems an easy choice to me!
The obvious choices to me, for Pearl Jam Week 2025 shows, would be The Gorge and Philadelphia. And for London, Hyde Park seems great. Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band. Vote Pearl Jam Week for 2025!
But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?
Seattle was the same. Pretty disappointing.
This is exactly the reason why I proposed the Pearl Jam Week. After seeing the repeated songs, and the many hits, less deep cuts. Sandy tagged on some mis-info to my idea which may lead to confusion. I recommend reading the thread.
But if you want legendary shows, more deep cuts, less repeats, legendary location, and great crowd energy, then vote Pearl Jam Week 2025
I think it's easy to lose sight on this forum that PJ is a very popular band outside of the die hards here. Rock fans who are casual PJ fans will want to come to their local shows, and they will want to hear the hits. That's totally fine and the band owes their success to that audience as well. I want to hear the deep cuts as much as anyone but remember, there are a ton of people at any given venue that have not heard Even Flow live!!
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I think it's easy to lose sight on this forum that PJ is a very popular band outside of the die hards here. Rock fans who are casual PJ fans will want to come to their local shows, and they will want to hear the hits. That's totally fine and the band owes their success to that audience as well. I want to hear the deep cuts as much as anyone but remember, there are a ton of people at any given venue that have not heard Even Flow live!!
People around me at LA N2 only ever heard Ten album. I was trying to talk Dark Matter, and they didn't hear it. But only ever listening to Ten album. That is super casual lol.
I'm all for casuals going to Pearl Jam Week 2025, but it should be noted in the marketing that this is a special show, geared to the hard core fans, and a celebration of Pearl Jam. This will attract more hardcore fans to travel, because like you and I, we all want to see the legendary shows. If casuals want to check it then all good.
Like for 311 day, casuals can go, but they should know that it is a show catered to hardcore fans and mostly deep cuts. So let the casuals come if they want to. But the style of the show is going to attract many hard core fans. And in a legendary location like the Gorge or Philly, great crowd energy.
Some of us die hards have not lost sight of the popularity. If they did some kind of travel excursion like one big holiday, fans would be even more angry about the prices. A week at the gorge VIP 10K. Yeah no thanks.
I think your happiest medium is going to be the Sphere shows.
It's too late in PJ's career for them to be doing like Phish does and creating little "weeks" or "festivals" where ever they go. Ideally they could have started a Festival/Week in 95 or 96 when they were fighting Ticketmaster and the end of the Grateful Dead and rise of Dave Matthews and Phish, and they basically did, but PJ summer tour didn't quite stick like DMB and Phish.
The Sphere seems right up PJ's alley, considering bands OLDER than PJ have adapted to the technology quite quickly. I mean the freaking Eagles are next up...
As an Idea, it's amazing. And from a band that did something like PJ20 14 years ago now, it seems like they could be making a lot of the more recent shows extremely special and wanting them to do something that feels out of the ordinary now has felt like the norm for awhile now. Especially when this band has played 125 different songs this year, but still choose's to play repeats on multiple nights.
Honest question to everyone here, especially those who go to multiple shows a year:
If PJ plays the Sphere and you're guaranteed to hear: -1 full album of songs, any album from Ten to Dark Matter, but only ONE album -maybe 5 to 6 different/deep cut songs a night (this could be like how they go about the deep cuts now, or an "a" or "b" setlist) -a mini set of songs they could rotate to close the shows (Given to Fly, DTE, Corduroy, Better Man, Just Breathe, all the hits etc etc)
how many shows would you try to go to?
Say they only announce 10 shows. If you KNOW they're going to play "Ten" every. single. night. Would you still buy tickets for multiple shows, or would you do it once or twice and move on? Would you attempt to make it to every single show?
at that point does the audio/visual element and rarity of the shows outweigh the element of suprise that is usually revealed with the Setlist?
Some of us die hards have not lost sight of the popularity. If they did some kind of travel excursion like one big holiday, fans would be even more angry about the prices. A week at the gorge VIP 10K. Yeah no thanks.
PJ have been very conservative when it comes to destination events. They could have gone the route of those "en la Playa" getaway concerts that all the Jam and Jam-adjacent bands have been doing for years now, but instead they may or may not do Ohana and don't look at anything else. Ohana has become Ed's baby and people already complain about the prices of those tickets and how quickly it sells
I think your happiest medium is going to be the Sphere shows.
It's too late in PJ's career for them to be doing like Phish does and creating little "weeks" or "festivals" where ever they go. Ideally they could have started a Festival/Week in 95 or 96 when they were fighting Ticketmaster and the end of the Grateful Dead and rise of Dave Matthews and Phish, and they basically did, but PJ summer tour didn't quite stick like DMB and Phish.
The Sphere seems right up PJ's alley, considering bands OLDER than PJ have adapted to the technology quite quickly. I mean the freaking Eagles are next up...
As an Idea, it's amazing. And from a band that did something like PJ20 14 years ago now, it seems like they could be making a lot of the more recent shows extremely special and wanting them to do something that feels out of the ordinary now has felt like the norm for awhile now. Especially when this band has played 125 different songs this year, but still choose's to play repeats on multiple nights.
Honest question to everyone here, especially those who go to multiple shows a year:
If PJ plays the Sphere and you're guaranteed to hear: -1 full album of songs, any album from Ten to Dark Matter, but only ONE album -maybe 5 to 6 different/deep cut songs a night (this could be like how they go about the deep cuts now, or an "a" or "b" setlist) -a mini set of songs they could rotate to close the shows (Given to Fly, DTE, Corduroy, Better Man, Just Breathe, all the hits etc etc)
how many shows would you try to go to?
Say they only announce 10 shows. If you KNOW they're going to play "Ten" every. single. night. Would you still buy tickets for multiple shows, or would you do it once or twice and move on? Would you attempt to make it to every single show?
at that point does the audio/visual element and rarity of the shows outweigh the element of suprise that is usually revealed with the Setlist?
Some of us die hards have not lost sight of the popularity. If they did some kind of travel excursion like one big holiday, fans would be even more angry about the prices. A week at the gorge VIP 10K. Yeah no thanks.
PJ have been very conservative when it comes to destination events. They could have gone the route of those "en la Playa" getaway concerts that all the Jam and Jam-adjacent bands have been doing for years now, but instead they may or may not do Ohana and don't look at anything else. Ohana has become Ed's baby and people already complain about the prices of those tickets and how quickly it sells
Would definitely go and one show maybe two depending on how the family/parenting negotiations look
Some of us die hards have not lost sight of the popularity. If they did some kind of travel excursion like one big holiday, fans would be even more angry about the prices. A week at the gorge VIP 10K. Yeah no thanks.
A week at the Gorge and everyone would smell like poop by day 3.
I'd still be there, provided it's not mid-July and 100*+
MikeDigs said: Not standard tour. Legendary shows.
Ok, I’ve been known to wishcast for an extremely unlikely Syracuse show so I get the impulse to imagine things. But man this feels misguided. First of all, isn’t this kind of insulting to the band? The “standard” tour isn’t good enough, you need it to be “legendary”? C’mon now. Also more songs don’t necessarily make a show legendary anyway. Do you believe there were no “legendary” shows in ‘93 when 25 songs was basically the entire repertoire? They shortened the shows for their health, specifically Matt & Ed’s, but they won’t mind as long as it’s legendary to you right? Should they let you write the setlist? And that should definitely help sell tix on the next “standard” tour when people know the shows will be different. They don’t need a destination weekend in Cabo, they just need to keep being the best live band in the world on their own terms. and play fuckin’ Syracuse
MikeDigs said: Not standard tour. Legendary shows.
Ok, I’ve been known to wishcast for an extremely unlikely Syracuse show so I get the impulse to imagine things. But man this feels misguided. First of all, isn’t this kind of insulting to the band? The “standard” tour isn’t good enough, you need it to be “legendary”? C’mon now. Also more songs don’t necessarily make a show legendary anyway. Do you believe there were no “legendary” shows in ‘93 when 25 songs was basically the entire repertoire? They shortened the shows for their health, specifically Matt & Ed’s, but they won’t mind as long as it’s legendary to you right? Should they let you write the setlist? And that should definitely help sell tix on the next “standard” tour when people know the shows will be different. They don’t need a destination weekend in Cabo, they just need to keep being the best live band in the world on their own terms. and play fuckin’ Syracuse
I went to Syracuse for school. I am up there once a year or so. Where would they play? Not the Dome. State Fair maybe? Unfortunately, upstate NY does not make a lot of sense for them. The destinations for them are festivals. Big money and shorter sets.
You do an east coast Ohana in the spring. Have it in Boston call it O'Hannagh. Just round up all the great openers over the years. Jacket, Band of Horses, SK, Ted Leo, Sparta, etc.
Maybe because I've been to 6 shows this year, but I could deal with 'Ten' in it's entirety for a few shows.
Early Alive & late Release would be a welcome change at this point😅 (also, I STILL need Oceans & a Mommason)
I'd take this set any day of the week:
Once Alive Even Flow Why Go Black Jeremy Oceans Porch Garden Deep Release Daughter Corduroy Present Tense In Hiding Light Years Rearviewmirror _______________ Footsteps Red Mosquito All Those Yesterdays Parting Ways Setting Sun Baba O'Riley Yellow Ledbetter
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Maybe because I've been to 6 shows this year, but I could deal with 'Ten' in it's entirety for a few shows.
Early Alive & late Release would be a welcome change at this point😅 (also, I STILL need Oceans & a Mommason)
I'd take this set any day of the week:
Once Alive Even Flow Why Go Black Jeremy Oceans Porch Garden Deep Release Daughter Corduroy Present Tense In Hiding Light Years Rearviewmirror _______________ Footsteps Red Mosquito All Those Yesterdays Parting Ways Setting Sun Baba O'Riley Yellow Ledbetter
Alt 2nd set:
Small Town Last Exit Hail Hail DTE (w/McFarlane video) Insignificance Better Man/Save It For Later ____________________________ Footsteps Present Tense Inside Job Not For You/Modern Girl Alright (or Retrograde) Fuckin' Up Indifference
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Fuck it, there's always my dream set (with a modern twist) -
The Long Road Low Light Present Tense Go Animal Daughter Glorified G Dissident W.M.A. Blood Rearviewmirror Rats Small Town Leash Indifference Untitled/MFC Lukin Better Man/Save It For Later ____________________________
Driftin' (acoustic set) Strangest Tribe Around the Bend Hold On Footsteps Once (back to electric) Alive Yellow Ledbetter Setting Sun
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
I think i'll always be in the bracket of seeing this band will always be the highlight of my year. No other band comes close for me.
This years shows once again brought it home that they are absolutely on the top of their game still, and brought incredible energy to the shows that came right back at them from a crowd that is beyond passionate.
On that basis alone I will always try to do as many shows as i can.....so if they did a week in London (I know its never going to happen), I would do every one.
Couldnt care less what they played either, its always a total pleasure. We will always have those tunes we would love to catch, but they are merely a bonus, the cherry on top to a fantastic evening.
I think i'll always be in the bracket of seeing this band will always be the highlight of my year. No other band comes close for me.
This years shows once again brought it home that they are absolutely on the top of their game still, and brought incredible energy to the shows that came right back at them from a crowd that is beyond passionate.
On that basis alone I will always try to do as many shows as i can.....so if they did a week in London (I know its never going to happen), I would do every one.
Couldnt care less what they played either, its always a total pleasure. We will always have those tunes we would love to catch, but they are merely a bonus, the cherry on top to a fantastic evening.
This… other than too many Ed solo songs.
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Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.
But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?
Seattle was the same. Pretty disappointing.
And 5 of them were probably Dark Matter songs on the Dark Matter tour. Honestly, wth is wrong in some of your skulls? How about 20+ repeats a nights a night, like pretty much every other band out there?🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.
But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?
Seattle was the same. Pretty disappointing.
And 5 of them were probably Dark Matter songs on the Dark Matter tour. Honestly, wth is wrong in some of your skulls? How about 20+ repeats a nights a night, like pretty much every other band out there?🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I don't see most bands more than once on a tour for that reason. Pearl Jam was always different and I would see them multiple times on a tour.
Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.
But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?
Seattle was the same. Pretty disappointing.
And 5 of them were probably Dark Matter songs on the Dark Matter tour. Honestly, wth is wrong in some of your skulls? How about 20+ repeats a nights a night, like pretty much every other band out there?🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I don't see most bands more than once on a tour for that reason. Pearl Jam was always different and I would see them multiple times on a tour.
I actually skipped a concert for this reason. Was monitoring the setlist, and it was 100% copy paste every single night. That's a big no thank you
Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard". If they do less locations they can do more songs! More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.
But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?
Seattle was the same. Pretty disappointing.
And 5 of them were probably Dark Matter songs on the Dark Matter tour. Honestly, wth is wrong in some of your skulls? How about 20+ repeats a nights a night, like pretty much every other band out there?🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
The answer is already in your question. Pearl Jam has never been like any other band. That's why some people are understandably a little disappointed. Just let them have their feelings.
The Sphere is the only place I’d be generally ok with the setlists being the same every night.
Id be going to that for the experience of seeing PJ at the sphere and not for the surprise factor.
If they did the weekend only format (Friday and Sunday) for let’s say 4-6 weeks, I’d probably just try and hit one weekend and call it good
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Or... Wouldn't you rather have our favorite legendary band, play 3 legendary shows (PJ20 style), at a legendary location??
One of these things is not like the other people... Standard greatest hits show hitting random cities, or a legendary show at a legendary location with fucking rare gems songs and deep cuts. Seems an easy choice to me!
The obvious choices to me, for Pearl Jam Week 2025 shows, would be The Gorge and Philadelphia. And for London, Hyde Park seems great.
Let's stop saying "we'll never get a legendary show, those are in the past", or "25 songs is the new standard".
If they do less locations they can do more songs!
More songs! Rare gems and deep cuts! Legendary location and crowd! Great vibes to celebrate our favorite legendary band.
Vote Pearl Jam Week for 2025!
2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4)
2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25)
2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
But.... given the song selection they've been using on multiple nights, I really don't think "Pearl Jam WEEK" shows is really going to be a thing... When you have a weekend like Wrigley where songs get scratched off and then on N2 there are SEVEN replays from N1??? SEVEN? Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?
"Whats the point of having a week of shows at the same venue if the variety isn't there?"
This is blatantly incorrect and never mentioned as a detail of Pearl Jam Week.
How would you even consider that "Legendary"?
Some of the main reasons that I proposed the Pearl Jam Week concept, are more songs, less repeats, more deep cuts. It is written in the thread.
Sandy tagged on some mis-info to my idea which may lead to confusion. I recommend reading the thread.
But if you want legendary shows, more deep cuts, less repeats, legendary location, and great crowd energy, then vote Pearl Jam Week 2025
Philadelphia 10/22/2013
Baltimore 10/27/2013
Hampton 4/18/2016
Ft. Worth 9/13/2023
Ft. Worth 9/15/2023
Wrigley 8/31/2024
Baltimore 9/12/2024
Fenway 9/15/2024
I'm all for casuals going to Pearl Jam Week 2025, but it should be noted in the marketing that this is a special show, geared to the hard core fans, and a celebration of Pearl Jam. This will attract more hardcore fans to travel, because like you and I, we all want to see the legendary shows. If casuals want to check it then all good.
Like for 311 day, casuals can go, but they should know that it is a show catered to hardcore fans and mostly deep cuts.
So let the casuals come if they want to. But the style of the show is going to attract many hard core fans. And in a legendary location like the Gorge or Philly, great crowd energy.
It's too late in PJ's career for them to be doing like Phish does and creating little "weeks" or "festivals" where ever they go. Ideally they could have started a Festival/Week in 95 or 96 when they were fighting Ticketmaster and the end of the Grateful Dead and rise of Dave Matthews and Phish, and they basically did, but PJ summer tour didn't quite stick like DMB and Phish.
The Sphere seems right up PJ's alley, considering bands OLDER than PJ have adapted to the technology quite quickly. I mean the freaking Eagles are next up...
As an Idea, it's amazing. And from a band that did something like PJ20 14 years ago now, it seems like they could be making a lot of the more recent shows extremely special and wanting them to do something that feels out of the ordinary now has felt like the norm for awhile now. Especially when this band has played 125 different songs this year, but still choose's to play repeats on multiple nights.
Honest question to everyone here, especially those who go to multiple shows a year:
If PJ plays the Sphere and you're guaranteed to hear:
-1 full album of songs, any album from Ten to Dark Matter, but only ONE album
-maybe 5 to 6 different/deep cut songs a night (this could be like how they go about the deep cuts now, or an "a" or "b" setlist)
-a mini set of songs they could rotate to close the shows (Given to Fly, DTE, Corduroy, Better Man, Just Breathe, all the hits etc etc)
how many shows would you try to go to?
Say they only announce 10 shows. If you KNOW they're going to play "Ten" every. single. night. Would you still buy tickets for multiple shows, or would you do it once or twice and move on? Would you attempt to make it to every single show?
at that point does the audio/visual element and rarity of the shows outweigh the element of suprise that is usually revealed with the Setlist?
PJ have been very conservative when it comes to destination events. They could have gone the route of those "en la Playa" getaway concerts that all the Jam and Jam-adjacent bands have been doing for years now, but instead they may or may not do Ohana and don't look at anything else. Ohana has become Ed's baby and people already complain about the prices of those tickets and how quickly it sells
I'd still be there, provided it's not mid-July and 100*+
They don’t need a destination weekend in Cabo, they just need to keep being the best live band in the world on their own terms.
and play fuckin’ Syracuse
I went to Syracuse for school. I am up there once a year or so. Where would they play? Not the Dome. State Fair maybe? Unfortunately, upstate NY does not make a lot of sense for them. The destinations for them are festivals. Big money and shorter sets.
Early Alive & late Release would be a welcome change at this point😅 (also, I STILL need Oceans & a Mommason)
I'd take this set any day of the week:
Once
Alive
Even Flow
Why Go
Black
Jeremy
Oceans
Porch
Garden
Deep
Release
Daughter
Corduroy
Present Tense
In Hiding
Light Years
Rearviewmirror
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Footsteps
Red Mosquito
All Those Yesterdays
Parting Ways
Setting Sun
Baba O'Riley
Yellow Ledbetter
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Small Town
Last Exit
Hail Hail
DTE (w/McFarlane video)
Insignificance
Better Man/Save It For Later
____________________________
Footsteps
Present Tense
Inside Job
Not For You/Modern Girl
Alright (or Retrograde)
Fuckin' Up
Indifference
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
The Long Road
Low Light
Present Tense
Go
Animal
Daughter
Glorified G
Dissident
W.M.A.
Blood
Rearviewmirror
Rats
Small Town
Leash
Indifference
Untitled/MFC
Lukin
Better Man/Save It For Later
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Driftin' (acoustic set)
Strangest Tribe
Around the Bend
Hold On
Footsteps
Once (back to electric)
Alive
Yellow Ledbetter
Setting Sun
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
This years shows once again brought it home that they are absolutely on the top of their game still, and brought incredible energy to the shows that came right back at them from a crowd that is beyond passionate.
On that basis alone I will always try to do as many shows as i can.....so if they did a week in London (I know its never going to happen), I would do every one.
Couldnt care less what they played either, its always a total pleasure. We will always have those tunes we would love to catch, but they are merely a bonus, the cherry on top to a fantastic evening.
ISO Hollywood & Nashville 2 tickets. PM me to coordinate a drop!
Yes, back to Toronto.
Id be going to that for the experience of seeing PJ at the sphere and not for the surprise factor.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore