How early to show up question

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    BF25394 said:
    PJNB said:
    BF25394 said:
    PJNB said:
    seanclax said:
    PJNB said:
    seanclax said:
    Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am
    LOL
    I mean overnight.
    Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong
    Have you been to Oakland? Or Harlem? Or Inglewood? 

    I am not going to London and I would not camp out either way but people will. They have in the past in worse locations. 
    None of the places you mentioned are particularly unsafe. This is so especially when there are dozens of people camping out.

    The area of Oakland along Hegenberger Road (which, incidentally, I traversed on foot four times for Pearl Jam shows in '22 and another twelve times for Mets-A's games at the Coliseum later in '22 and in '23 with no fear and no incident) not far from the arena and stadium has property crime issues, but that's not where people camp out for the shows. The most dangerous part of walking that stretch is watching for cars speeding off the exit ramp from the freeway.

    Similarly, I walked nearly a mile to and from my car parked on the street in Inglewood before and after both shows in '22 and '24 without so much as an unfriendly look.
    You had no issues walking to and from somewhere so it must be safe. Makes sense!
    That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I know that these places are safe based on experience and actual data, and so I did what I did knowing that there was no reason to be particularly concerned. I live in L.A. I have seen many shows at the Forum. I am familiar with  that part of Inglewood. I always park on the street about a 12-minute walk from the arena. The area near the Forum is quiet and safe. There is a cemetery that runs the full length of Prairie Avenue all the way up to Florence. There are medical offices on the other side of the street. There is a school. There is a church. It's not a war zone. It's a quiet, working-class area. There are parts of Inglewood that are not so safe, but not the part near the arena where people would be camping out in large numbers.

    Similarly, I went to the Pearl Jam shows in Oakland in 2022. I stayed at an airport hotel and walked the two miles to and from the arena. My experience made me comfortable to do the same thing again in September 2022 and April 2023 for the A's-Mets series. Again, that particular stretch has serious property crime issues. I wouldn't have parked my car there. But I had no concerns that someone was going to jump me. And, again, people camping out would be over by the Coliseum in a large group.

    Bear in mind that I grew up in New York City and rode the subway from Brooklyn to Manhattan for over an hour each way every day to get to school through the late '80s/early '90s peak of crime in American cities. I have a pretty good sense of when things are truly unsafe and how to avoid dangerous interactions.

    And one thing I know for sure about London compared to any American city: there are a lot fewer guns.

    We are comparing people camping out in Tottenham vs these cities. If they did it in the above cities I am sure they will do it in London.

    Also you might think they are safe. Sure. Great.  You may want to talk to the people that stayed in line for Oakland overnight though.  
  • carbonez
    carbonez Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 92
    seanclax said:
    PJNB said:
    seanclax said:
    Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am
    LOL
    I mean overnight.
    Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

    I will take your word for it!
  • carbonez
    carbonez Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 92
    Thank you everyone for the insight.  I appreciate it.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,491
    Gibson said:
    I wish you the best of luck in getting a spot on the rail.


  • Wreckage
    Wreckage England Posts: 56
    Too early to bother, evidently  =)  =)
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,913
    Well in Dublin right now the queue is 20 already 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,755
    Worth the wait for a chance at a nod, pick shower, tambo setlist and whatever else they may throw at you!
    Have fun all and post some pictures for this armchair warrior.
  • bazfromoz
    bazfromoz Posts: 256
    lastexitlondon said:
    Well in Dublin right now the queue is 20 already 
    I’m glad the rain is coming on Friday then. 
  • Planet of Sound
    Planet of Sound UK Posts: 637
    edited June 2024
    Surely the park closes overnight and would just throw you out if you start pitching a tent or queuing up two nights before.  And how do you wash?  And what do you do for two days?

    [Edit: noticed some of this is answered in another thread, nevermind]

    I probably have too many questions, maybe we will discuss in person some time, Rob!

    I’ve got as close as 2nd row one time back in 2006 in front of Mike, but probably queued from about 11am on the day, I know I went on a boat excursion before queuing (this was in Marseille) so can’t have queued that early.  I was allowed a song or two on the rail too thanks to the people we were with.  Times have clearly changed.
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,220
    lastexitlondon said:
    Well in Dublin right now the queue is 20 already 
    I mean this is just borderline ridiculous. 

    There will be absolutely no one else arrive for the next 24 hours. Whats the point????
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,913
    pdalowsky said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Well in Dublin right now the queue is 20 already 
    I mean this is just borderline ridiculous. 

    There will be absolutely no one else arrive for the next 24 hours. Whats the point????
    Agreed it's fomo and obsession. It's contagious for these people I got caught up in it years back . I have ocd and it's very easy for me to become obsessed . I think the whole thing is stupid and drives itself 
     Perpetual. 
     By the time of the show there are a load of sweaty smelly tired . Narky 50 year old s.


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,220
    lastexitlondon said:
    pdalowsky said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Well in Dublin right now the queue is 20 already 
    I mean this is just borderline ridiculous. 

    There will be absolutely no one else arrive for the next 24 hours. Whats the point????
    Agreed it's fomo and obsession. It's contagious for these people I got caught up in it years back . I have ocd and it's very easy for me to become obsessed . I think the whole thing is stupid and drives itself 
     Perpetual. 
     By the time of the show there are a load of sweaty smelly tired . Narky 50 year old s.
    Having mingled with some of these folk who do it show after show, quite honestly it would be more fun to attend a training session on how to iron a pair of socks. You are quite right, its very competitive, almost elitist and centres around a desperation for the band to recognise them.

    An obsession as you say Rob. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,913
    It is elitist and causes so much aggro. I wish it was back to the old days. Before these people discovered pj and the whoring for a wave or a tambo


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Froggie
    Froggie Cork Posts: 240
    lastexitlondon said:
    It is elitist and causes so much aggro. I wish it was back to the old days. Before these people discovered pj and the whoring for a wave or a tambo
    Same here. It’s gotten so ridiculous. The aggression and anger from some of these people is awful. And knowing they play the system. I said it in another thread, it’s just not worth it. It never goes well even just queuing up from early morning. 

    We’ve gone to a good few GnR concerts since 2016. Queued all day and the difference in the people’s attitudes is day and night. 
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,784
    lastexitlondon said:
    It is elitist and causes so much aggro. I wish it was back to the old days. Before these people discovered pj and the whoring for a wave or a tambo
    Yep ..."Please point at me Ed... please look at me..."
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,755

  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,116
    I know some of you think camping out is ridiculous. However, I find it to be really fun. Yes, part of my reason is to get up as close as possible. I have been lucky to get rail several times and it is an awesome experience if you haven’t done it. But I also have gotten 2nd or 3rd row after camping out and have had just as much fun. However, for me sometimes camping out just becomes part of the whole concert experience. When I travel to show I often go alone and i really enjoy the social aspect of camping out. I start out in the line alone and end up with a whole new group of friends to have fun at the show with. Some of my now closest PJ friends I met camping out in the GA line. I have plans to meet several of them for various shows and no longer feel alone at the shows - even if I am going alone. I would have never have had these experiences if I just walked in right before show time. So, just wanted to share some of my reasons. Others here may do it for the same reason. That being said, I have yet to camp out two days in advance and likely will not do that. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,913
    The thing is if one person camped out. It's not a thing and 2 or 3 days now are not spent in horrible conditions. But because one person does 2 people do and so on and so on. I think 1 day is social and ok but I truly wish it was just a lottery and be done with the one upmanship and get there 1 day 2 days 3 days earlier because fear of missing out. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,980
    I would never personally camp out in line.  But I have zero issue with anyone that wants to do it as long as they’re polite and respectful of their fellow fans.  People camping out has no impact on my concert going experience.  It’s all good. 
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    100% lottery is the way to go. Open it up just to 10C initial winners and not fan to fan.

    Have it tied to the winners name and a plus 1 and those that want to be put in the lottery can. 

    If the person sells their ticket on fan to fan it no longer can be put in the lotto. Also you can’t gift or sell the ticket to someone else you have to be there to get the bracelet. 

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