How early to show up question

carbonez

I am taking my son to his first show in London.  We have GA front tickets. How early do you think I need to be in line to get him a view from the rail.  He is pretty short and would like if he could see.  . Thanks for your thoughts in advance.

Loujoe

In US a shot at rail is easily the night before. Not sure how young your son is. Might be hard to camp out on line with him. Just have fun. Throw him on your shoulders and ev will get him a tambo!

lastexitlondon

London rail will be huge. It's a stadium. But kids on the rail is not a great idea

gotthebottle

carbonez said:

I am taking my son to his first show in London.  We have GA front tickets. How early do you think I need to be in line to get him a view from the rail.  He is pretty short and would like if he could see.  . Thanks for your thoughts in advance.

2 days

GlowGirl

carbonez said:

I am taking my son to his first show in London.  We have GA front tickets. How early do you think I need to be in line to get him a view from the rail.  He is pretty short and would like if he could see.  . Thanks for your thoughts in advance.

I have not been to this stadium so I don’t know how long the rail is. But in my other experiences people will start lining up a few days before. But if it is a big rail, maybe the day before. 

pdalowsky

carbonez said:

I am taking my son to his first show in London.  We have GA front tickets. How early do you think I need to be in line to get him a view from the rail.  He is pretty short and would like if he could see.  . Thanks for your thoughts in advance.

Yeah to be certain I think you are looking at camping out. 

Gibson

I wish you the best of luck in getting a spot on the rail. Please keep in mind the energy, time and patience required to obtain it. Nothing wrong with showing up 90 mins before show and being 2 meters away from the band and truly enjoying the experience.

seanclax

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

PJNB

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

seanclax

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

jwhjr17

Just go in when the doors open.  I've done both and can get pretty much the same place either way (don't care about rail).

PJNB

seanclax said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

Have you been to Oakland? Or Harlem? Or Inglewood? 

I am not going to London and I would not camp out either way but people will. They have in the past in worse locations. 

mcgruff10

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

Have you been to Oakland? Or Harlem? Or Inglewood? 

I am not going to London and I would not camp out either way but people will. They have in the past in worse locations. 

 Camden lol

SHZA

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

Have you been to Oakland? Or Harlem? Or Inglewood? 

I am not going to London and I would not camp out either way but people will. They have in the past in worse locations. 

Chicago, downtown STL 

lastexitlondon

It's rough there but there will be a group of 100 I guess so that's enough to be ok. 

Planet of Sound

You think 100 people will wait overnight, in Tottenham?  

BF25394

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

Have you been to Oakland? Or Harlem? Or Inglewood? 

I am not going to London and I would not camp out either way but people will. They have in the past in worse locations. 

None of the places you mentioned are particularly unsafe. This is so especially when there are dozens of people camping out.

The area of Oakland along Hegenberger Road (which, incidentally, I traversed on foot four times for Pearl Jam shows in '22 and another twelve times for Mets-A's games at the Coliseum later in '22 and in '23 with no fear and no incident) not far from the arena and stadium has property crime issues, but that's not where people camp out for the shows. The most dangerous part of walking that stretch is watching for cars speeding off the exit ramp from the freeway.

Similarly, I walked nearly a mile to and from my car parked on the street in Inglewood before and after both shows in '22 and '24 without so much as an unfriendly look.

lastexitlondon

Planet of Sound said:

You think 100 people will wait overnight, in Tottenham?  

Maybe 50 but 100% people are sleeping out I already know of 10 personally 

Planet of Sound

Wow, each to their own, I guess!

PJNB

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

Have you been to Oakland? Or Harlem? Or Inglewood? 

I am not going to London and I would not camp out either way but people will. They have in the past in worse locations. 

None of the places you mentioned are particularly unsafe. This is so especially when there are dozens of people camping out.

The area of Oakland along Hegenberger Road (which, incidentally, I traversed on foot four times for Pearl Jam shows in '22 and another twelve times for Mets-A's games at the Coliseum later in '22 and in '23 with no fear and no incident) not far from the arena and stadium has property crime issues, but that's not where people camp out for the shows. The most dangerous part of walking that stretch is watching for cars speeding off the exit ramp from the freeway.

Similarly, I walked nearly a mile to and from my car parked on the street in Inglewood before and after both shows in '22 and '24 without so much as an unfriendly look.

You had no issues walking to and from somewhere so it must be safe. Makes sense!

BF25394

PJNB said:

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

Have you been to Oakland? Or Harlem? Or Inglewood? 

I am not going to London and I would not camp out either way but people will. They have in the past in worse locations. 

None of the places you mentioned are particularly unsafe. This is so especially when there are dozens of people camping out.

The area of Oakland along Hegenberger Road (which, incidentally, I traversed on foot four times for Pearl Jam shows in '22 and another twelve times for Mets-A's games at the Coliseum later in '22 and in '23 with no fear and no incident) not far from the arena and stadium has property crime issues, but that's not where people camp out for the shows. The most dangerous part of walking that stretch is watching for cars speeding off the exit ramp from the freeway.

Similarly, I walked nearly a mile to and from my car parked on the street in Inglewood before and after both shows in '22 and '24 without so much as an unfriendly look.

You had no issues walking to and from somewhere so it must be safe. Makes sense!

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I know that these places are safe based on experience and actual data, and so I did what I did knowing that there was no reason to be particularly concerned. I live in L.A. I have seen many shows at the Forum. I am familiar with  that part of Inglewood. I always park on the street about a 12-minute walk from the arena. The area near the Forum is quiet and safe. There is a cemetery that runs the full length of Prairie Avenue all the way up to Florence. There are medical offices on the other side of the street. There is a school. There is a church. It's not a war zone. It's a quiet, working-class area. There are parts of Inglewood that are not so safe, but not the part near the arena where people would be camping out in large numbers.

Similarly, I went to the Pearl Jam shows in Oakland in 2022. I stayed at an airport hotel and walked the two miles to and from the arena. My experience made me comfortable to do the same thing again in September 2022 and April 2023 for the A's-Mets series. Again, that particular stretch has serious property crime issues. I wouldn't have parked my car there. But I had no concerns that someone was going to jump me. And, again, people camping out would be over by the Coliseum in a large group.

Bear in mind that I grew up in New York City and rode the subway from Brooklyn to Manhattan for over an hour each way every day to get to school through the late '80s/early '90s peak of crime in American cities. I have a pretty good sense of when things are truly unsafe and how to avoid dangerous interactions.

And one thing I know for sure about London compared to any American city: there are a lot fewer guns.

PJNB

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

Have you been to Oakland? Or Harlem? Or Inglewood? 

I am not going to London and I would not camp out either way but people will. They have in the past in worse locations. 

None of the places you mentioned are particularly unsafe. This is so especially when there are dozens of people camping out.

The area of Oakland along Hegenberger Road (which, incidentally, I traversed on foot four times for Pearl Jam shows in '22 and another twelve times for Mets-A's games at the Coliseum later in '22 and in '23 with no fear and no incident) not far from the arena and stadium has property crime issues, but that's not where people camp out for the shows. The most dangerous part of walking that stretch is watching for cars speeding off the exit ramp from the freeway.

Similarly, I walked nearly a mile to and from my car parked on the street in Inglewood before and after both shows in '22 and '24 without so much as an unfriendly look.

You had no issues walking to and from somewhere so it must be safe. Makes sense!

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I know that these places are safe based on experience and actual data, and so I did what I did knowing that there was no reason to be particularly concerned. I live in L.A. I have seen many shows at the Forum. I am familiar with  that part of Inglewood. I always park on the street about a 12-minute walk from the arena. The area near the Forum is quiet and safe. There is a cemetery that runs the full length of Prairie Avenue all the way up to Florence. There are medical offices on the other side of the street. There is a school. There is a church. It's not a war zone. It's a quiet, working-class area. There are parts of Inglewood that are not so safe, but not the part near the arena where people would be camping out in large numbers.

Similarly, I went to the Pearl Jam shows in Oakland in 2022. I stayed at an airport hotel and walked the two miles to and from the arena. My experience made me comfortable to do the same thing again in September 2022 and April 2023 for the A's-Mets series. Again, that particular stretch has serious property crime issues. I wouldn't have parked my car there. But I had no concerns that someone was going to jump me. And, again, people camping out would be over by the Coliseum in a large group.

Bear in mind that I grew up in New York City and rode the subway from Brooklyn to Manhattan for over an hour each way every day to get to school through the late '80s/early '90s peak of crime in American cities. I have a pretty good sense of when things are truly unsafe and how to avoid dangerous interactions.

And one thing I know for sure about London compared to any American city: there are a lot fewer guns.

We are comparing people camping out in Tottenham vs these cities. If they did it in the above cities I am sure they will do it in London.

Also you might think they are safe. Sure. Great.  You may want to talk to the people that stayed in line for Oakland overnight though.  

carbonez

seanclax said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

I will take your word for it!

carbonez

Thank you everyone for the insight.  I appreciate it.

demetrios

Gibson said:

I wish you the best of luck in getting a spot on the rail.

Wreckage

Too early to bother, evidently   

lastexitlondon

Well in Dublin right now the queue is 20 already 

Loujoe

Worth the wait for a chance at a nod, pick shower, tambo setlist and whatever else they may throw at you!
Have fun all and post some pictures for this armchair warrior.

bazfromoz

lastexitlondon said:

Well in Dublin right now the queue is 20 already 

I’m glad the rain is coming on Friday then. 

Planet of Sound

Surely the park closes overnight and would just throw you out if you start pitching a tent or queuing up two nights before.  And how do you wash?  And what do you do for two days?

[Edit: noticed some of this is answered in another thread, nevermind]

I probably have too many questions, maybe we will discuss in person some time, Rob!

I’ve got as close as 2nd row one time back in 2006 in front of Mike, but probably queued from about 11am on the day, I know I went on a boat excursion before queuing (this was in Marseille) so can’t have queued that early.  I was allowed a song or two on the rail too thanks to the people we were with.  Times have clearly changed.

pdalowsky

lastexitlondon said:

Well in Dublin right now the queue is 20 already 

I mean this is just borderline ridiculous. 

There will be absolutely no one else arrive for the next 24 hours. Whats the point????