How early to show up question

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

BF25394 said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

PJNB said:

seanclax said:

Nobody will que up in london. The area around the stadium is not safe enough to camp out. If you don't want merch I'd suggest get there around 6/7 am

LOL

I mean overnight.
Feel free to head to Tottenham at 2am on the day and prove me wrong

Have you been to Oakland? Or Harlem? Or Inglewood? 

I am not going to London and I would not camp out either way but people will. They have in the past in worse locations. 

None of the places you mentioned are particularly unsafe. This is so especially when there are dozens of people camping out.

The area of Oakland along Hegenberger Road (which, incidentally, I traversed on foot four times for Pearl Jam shows in '22 and another twelve times for Mets-A's games at the Coliseum later in '22 and in '23 with no fear and no incident) not far from the arena and stadium has property crime issues, but that's not where people camp out for the shows. The most dangerous part of walking that stretch is watching for cars speeding off the exit ramp from the freeway.

Similarly, I walked nearly a mile to and from my car parked on the street in Inglewood before and after both shows in '22 and '24 without so much as an unfriendly look.

You had no issues walking to and from somewhere so it must be safe. Makes sense!

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I know that these places are safe based on experience and actual data, and so I did what I did knowing that there was no reason to be particularly concerned. I live in L.A. I have seen many shows at the Forum. I am familiar with  that part of Inglewood. I always park on the street about a 12-minute walk from the arena. The area near the Forum is quiet and safe. There is a cemetery that runs the full length of Prairie Avenue all the way up to Florence. There are medical offices on the other side of the street. There is a school. There is a church. It's not a war zone. It's a quiet, working-class area. There are parts of Inglewood that are not so safe, but not the part near the arena where people would be camping out in large numbers.

Similarly, I went to the Pearl Jam shows in Oakland in 2022. I stayed at an airport hotel and walked the two miles to and from the arena. My experience made me comfortable to do the same thing again in September 2022 and April 2023 for the A's-Mets series. Again, that particular stretch has serious property crime issues. I wouldn't have parked my car there. But I had no concerns that someone was going to jump me. And, again, people camping out would be over by the Coliseum in a large group.

Bear in mind that I grew up in New York City and rode the subway from Brooklyn to Manhattan for over an hour each way every day to get to school through the late '80s/early '90s peak of crime in American cities. I have a pretty good sense of when things are truly unsafe and how to avoid dangerous interactions.

And one thing I know for sure about London compared to any American city: there are a lot fewer guns.

pdalowsky said:

lastexitlondon said:

Well in Dublin right now the queue is 20 already 

I mean this is just borderline ridiculous. 

There will be absolutely no one else arrive for the next 24 hours. Whats the point????