Pearl Jam or Taylor Swift?

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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,022
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter

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  • bootleg
    bootleg Posts: 1,209
    I don’t listen to Swift but can someone explain what went down with the whole double album?  Like if you bought the album did it secretly have 2 discs, or did you just buy disc 1 and then she releases disc 2 at 2am and you have to buy that separately?  Just curious cause I’m not in that world.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,498
    My opinion is that Taylor needs an editor. She throws a lot of music at people but she could benefit from trimming all the fat and delivering a solid 10 song album. It all just sounds so repetitive at this point, but her fans eat it up so she keeps cashing in. So glad PJ starves us a little :lol:
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • lexicondevil
    lexicondevil Posts: 2,288
    bootleg said:
    I don’t listen to Swift but can someone explain what went down with the whole double album?  Like if you bought the album did it secretly have 2 discs, or did you just buy disc 1 and then she releases disc 2 at 2am and you have to buy that separately?  Just curious cause I’m not in that world.
    I am unsure if we're actually getting 2 records. I suspect it's just the digital versions, until she wants more sales and puts out the extended deluxo version on vinyl. Evidently, she's been hinting about the double for weeks. She's held up peace signs in photos, pictures with clocks at 2:00, etc. This is the stuff she has fun doing and her rabid fans search for clues. I don't have the time or will to unravel her puzzles.
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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    bmurray06 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Pearl Jam/Taylor Swift is the new Barbenheimmer. 

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  • wiscojam
    wiscojam Appleton Posts: 344
    I can't tear myself away from Dark Matter long enough to even give T Swift a chance yet
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,498
    wiscojam said:
    I can't tear myself away from Dark Matter long enough to even give T Swift a chance yet
    This. I tried and got bored.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,197
    edited April 2024
    bootleg said:
    I don’t listen to Swift but can someone explain what went down with the whole double album?  Like if you bought the album did it secretly have 2 discs, or did you just buy disc 1 and then she releases disc 2 at 2am and you have to buy that separately?  Just curious cause I’m not in that world.
    She announced the record back in Feb. The album dropped at midnight. 2 hours later she said there’s a whole other disc of 15 more tracks). As of now it’s streaming/mp3s only. No physical. Yet. If you Pod the record you got just the first disc. 
  • EH14457
    EH14457 Orlando, FL Posts: 413
    Just back here to contradict my previous statement. Part 2 of TTPD is great. Aaron Dessner’s songs mostly sound like if Folklore and 1989 had a baby. 

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  • YourDirtisMyfood
    YourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,668
    lexicondevil said:
    bootleg said:
    I don’t listen to Swift but can someone explain what went down with the whole double album?  Like if you bought the album did it secretly have 2 discs, or did you just buy disc 1 and then she releases disc 2 at 2am and you have to buy that separately?  Just curious cause I’m not in that world.
    I am unsure if we're actually getting 2 records. I suspect it's just the digital versions, until she wants more sales and puts out the extended deluxo version on vinyl. Evidently, she's been hinting about the double for weeks. She's held up peace signs in photos, pictures with clocks at 2:00, etc. This is the stuff she has fun doing and her rabid fans search for clues. I don't have the time or will to unravel her puzzles.
    did you have the time or will for the Giagaton puzzles?

    just curious:



    https://loudwire.com/pearl-jam-scavenger-hunt-gigaton-title-artwork/
  • regalturbo
    regalturbo Posts: 300
    Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department
    Taylor's 11th album in 18 yrs.  Pearl Jam's 12th album after 33 years.  Would love if PJ were as prolific as Taylor!
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,528
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter
    YourDirtisMyfood said:
    lexicondevil said:
    bootleg said:
    I don’t listen to Swift but can someone explain what went down with the whole double album?  Like if you bought the album did it secretly have 2 discs, or did you just buy disc 1 and then she releases disc 2 at 2am and you have to buy that separately?  Just curious cause I’m not in that world.
    I am unsure if we're actually getting 2 records. I suspect it's just the digital versions, until she wants more sales and puts out the extended deluxo version on vinyl. Evidently, she's been hinting about the double for weeks. She's held up peace signs in photos, pictures with clocks at 2:00, etc. This is the stuff she has fun doing and her rabid fans search for clues. I don't have the time or will to unravel her puzzles.
    did you have the time or will for the Giagaton puzzles?

    just curious:



    https://loudwire.com/pearl-jam-scavenger-hunt-gigaton-title-artwork/
    Yeah I didn't do any of that. LOL
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    regalturbo said:
    Taylor's 11th album in 18 yrs.  Pearl Jam's 12th album after 33 years.  Would love if PJ were as prolific as Taylor!
    And that's not even counting the rerecordings that each come with a full album's worth of extra songs. She has nine releases, including the rerecordings, in five years. She's as prolific as Prince was, but Prince had some misfires. I haven't heard the new album yet, but I don't think she's had a misfire yet.
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  • lexicondevil
    lexicondevil Posts: 2,288
    YourDirtisMyfood said:
    lexicondevil said:
    bootleg said:
    I don’t listen to Swift but can someone explain what went down with the whole double album?  Like if you bought the album did it secretly have 2 discs, or did you just buy disc 1 and then she releases disc 2 at 2am and you have to buy that separately?  Just curious cause I’m not in that world.
    I am unsure if we're actually getting 2 records. I suspect it's just the digital versions, until she wants more sales and puts out the extended deluxo version on vinyl. Evidently, she's been hinting about the double for weeks. She's held up peace signs in photos, pictures with clocks at 2:00, etc. This is the stuff she has fun doing and her rabid fans search for clues. I don't have the time or will to unravel her puzzles.
    did you have the time or will for the Giagaton puzzles?

    just curious:



    https://loudwire.com/pearl-jam-scavenger-hunt-gigaton-title-artwork/
    Naw. I didn't fuck with that either. Just give me the damn music. Some people dig stuff like that. I don't find that stuff fun at all. I'd rather create some new art or drink a good beer...
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    EH14457 said:
    Just back here to contradict my previous statement. Part 2 of TTPD is great. Aaron Dessner’s songs mostly sound like if Folklore and 1989 had a baby. 
    I wish you hadn't said this. As these are digital-only and I don't really have a convenient way to listen to them, I was going to hold off on engaging with them until the inevitable physical release, but your description is going to make it hard to wait for them.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,437
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter
    https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/taylor-swift-the-tortured-poets-department-lyrics-tracklist-3619454


    Pj for the W 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    tbergs said:
    My opinion is that Taylor needs an editor. She throws a lot of music at people but she could benefit from trimming all the fat and delivering a solid 10 song album. It all just sounds so repetitive at this point, but her fans eat it up so she keeps cashing in. So glad PJ starves us a little :lol:
    I think she sustains the quality pretty well across these sprawling releases, generally speaking (although I haven't heard this one yet), but part of what motivates this excessive number of tracks is the broken Billboard chart formula that allows every song to chart whether it's a single or not. So, next week, she'll set a new "record" with 31 songs on the Hot 100. And the surplus tracks also goose the album "equivalent units."

    I'm a pretty avid music listener, but even I would have trouble digesting 31 tracks dropped at the same time, without even accounting for the fact that there's a new Pearl Jam album that will definitely be getting at least one listen a day for months. I think back to when Use Your Illusion I  and Use Your Illusion II were released, but I had a 75-minute subway commute each day so I had no problem listening to them in their entirety every day for a period of months. That's much harder for me to accomplish now.
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    SVRDhand13 said:
    The funny part is that Ed's daughters would almost certainly choose Taylor
    Olivia Vedder was at the Dark Matter listening party at Fingerprints in Long Beach, but his other daughter (Harper?) was nowhere to be seen. You may be onto something.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,635
    Pearl Jam - Dark Matter
    No love note from PJ tomorrow...

  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department
    disappointed taylor swift GIF
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