Pearl Jam or Taylor Swift?
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Evel K said:I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift so I don't know her music enough to vote but I have to think someone in her camp had to tell her Pearl Jam's album was dropping the same day. What do you think? Did she know and say too bad, or was it just spur of the moment secret double album surprise?
Pearl Jam announced their release on Feb 12"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I didn’t think Taylor Swift owes Pearl Jam a call for a heads up. Now maybe she or her people talked to Beyoncé’ or her people.0
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Pearl Jam - Dark MatterSpiritual_Chaos said:Evel K said:I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift so I don't know her music enough to vote but I have to think someone in her camp had to tell her Pearl Jam's album was dropping the same day. What do you think? Did she know and say too bad, or was it just spur of the moment secret double album surprise?
Pearl Jam announced their release on Feb 12
I can’t imagine TS’s people would have given a second’s thought to PJ, they certainly wouldn’t see the band as any kind of competition.
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Tim Simmons said:I didn’t think Taylor Swift owes Pearl Jam a call for a heads up. Now maybe she or her people talked to Beyoncé’ or her people.Swift surprise-released Evermore, her second full-length album of 2020, last week, but this according to McCartney was planned as to “keep out of each other’s way,” as he told The Howard Stern Show.“I did the Rolling Stone cover with Taylor Swift,” he explained “and she just emailed me recently, and she said, ‘I wasn’t telling anyone, but I’ve got another album. And she said, ‘So I was going to put it out on my birthday.’ … And then she said, ‘But I found out you were going to put [yours] out on the 10th. So I moved it to the 18th.’ And then she found out we were coming out on the 18th so she moved back to the 10th. So I mean, you know, people do keep out of each other’s way. It’s a nice thing to do.”
If Pearl Jam thought they would get Taylor Swift-esque spotlight on them on their release day they could have moved their release when they heard about her releasing on the 19th"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Pearl Jam - Dark Matter6.6
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/taylor-swift-the-tortured-poets-department-the-anthology/
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BF25394 said:bootleg said:BF25394 said:bootleg said:I tried to listen to a few songs and they really all sounded very similar in style. Like sleepy teenage poems over some generic music. I couldn’t imagine listening to 31 of those. But hey that’s just my taste. It’s just not for me.
Then with song titles like But Daddy I love Him, and I Can Fix Him. And then there this gem…Truth, dare, spin bottles
You know how to ball, I know Aristotle
Brand new, full throttle
Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto
It's true, swear, scouts honor
You knew what you wanted, and, boy, you got her
Brand new, full throttle
You already know, babe
But besides some cringe lyrics I think over time even the most devoted Swifties will find this collection of songs sonically boring, and all a bit too similar in structure and style.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
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Pearl Jam - Dark MatterPJammin' said:jimjam1982 said:BF25394 said:jimjam1982 said:more popular - taylor swift?
better musically and lyrically? pearl jam
It's not even debatable. each member of pearl jam has more musical talent then taylor could ever hope to have. don't confuse popularity, appearance, and performer ability to be the same as musical talent.
I never said she has no talent but her music is very simple. She can be both incredibly talented and not an all time great musician. You can find numerous articles explaining her music is simple chords and progressions that are often very similar. she is unable to create different sounds. That doesn't mean she isn't talented....Also, her ideas and marketing are A1. Her merchandise is really good too. She’s doing a lot right.0 -
Pearl Jam - Dark MatterDark Matter by miles and miles, and I like Taylor Swift.
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If you are a concert aficianado and have to be at all the legendary-type of concerts, you HAVE to go to one ERA's tour concert over this year. I've seen her 5 times, twice during the ERA's tour and it's one of the most fascinating concert experiences I have ever had. Even if you are just a casual TS fan. It's not a rock concert like PJ, but it's an experience that you will never forget for real. Truly unbelievable.0
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Pearl Jam - Dark MatterYourDirtisMyfood said:If you are a concert aficianado and have to be at all the legendary-type of concerts, you HAVE to go to one ERA's tour concert over this year. I've seen her 5 times, twice during the ERA's tour and it's one of the most fascinating concert experiences I have ever had. Even if you are just a casual TS fan. It's not a rock concert like PJ, but it's an experience that you will never forget for real. Truly unbelievable.
I wish I could afford it. Those tickets are so expensive, even with 3-night stands. I will look on the days of the shows to see if some cheap ones pop up, but I'm not holding my breath. TS concerts are a whole different beast compared to other shows, ticket-wise.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I have zero doubt she'll tour NA again in 2025.0
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Yes her show is a combination of a rock concert, a Disney World stage show and a Broadway show of all showstoppers. Its something else and very unique.
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YourDirtisMyfood said:If you are a concert aficianado and have to be at all the legendary-type of concerts, you HAVE to go to one ERA's tour concert over this year. I've seen her 5 times, twice during the ERA's tour and it's one of the most fascinating concert experiences I have ever had. Even if you are just a casual TS fan. It's not a rock concert like PJ, but it's an experience that you will never forget for real. Truly unbelievable.
I've mentioned this here before, but I saw the movie in a 500-seat theater on a Thursday afternoon where I was the only patron. It was glorious. I wish the sound for the Dark Matter listening party had been half as good as the Eras Tour movie in SurroundSound.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
Pearl Jam - Dark MatterSo far according to Metacritic.com PJ is at an 83 and Taylor is at 77I miss igotid880
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I read the Paste review and it's interesting because it's scathing but not, as some would assume, written by a hater. I mean, haters gonna hate (hate, hate), but whomever wrote this describes Taylor Swift as a "phenomenal" (italics theirs) songwriter.
I read a very glowing L.A. Times review that struck me funny because the reviewer just flat-out asserts that this song is about that guy, and that song is about this guy, and another song is about a third guy-- but Swift has never said that any song is about anyone in particular, let alone any of these new songs. It's just a little too confident, not to mention creepy that the writer, a grown man, knows (or thinks he knows) intimate details of Swift's personal life.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
Bringing this thread full circle, listening today with the full lyrics in front of me for the first time, there is a nonzero chance that "Waiting for Stevie" is about Taylor Swift. "You can be loved by everyone/And not feel, not feel love." "Finds herself in the song/Feels her own voice rising." And especially: "Words follow her down, needs to shake 'em off now, now."
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Taylor does have a song called Hey Stephen from one of her earlier songs about, presumably a previous boyfriend.0
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YourDirtisMyfood said:Taylor does have a song called Hey Stephen from one of her earlier songs about, presumably a previous boyfriend.
I have no doubt she's written songs about prior and/or current relationships. Every artist does. But, for some reason, her love life is dissected endlessly. Some people would say that she lives these relationships out in public and wants people talking about it (see Travis Kelce), but she had a five- or six-year relationship before that with Joe Alwyn where they were as off the radar as someone as famous as she is can be. A lot of what people think they know about her personal life is based on other people speculating about it, not her actually talking about it. I think it's pretty lame for a (male) journalist to just assert that songs are about specific people based on his presumed knowledge about her love life.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
BF25394 said:YourDirtisMyfood said:Taylor does have a song called Hey Stephen from one of her earlier songs about, presumably a previous boyfriend.
I have no doubt she's written songs about prior and/or current relationships. Every artist does. But, for some reason, her love life is dissected endlessly. Some people would say that she lives these relationships out in public and wants people talking about it (see Travis Kelce), but she had a five- or six-year relationship before that with Joe Alwyn where they were as off the radar as someone as famous as she is can be. A lot of what people think they know about her personal life is based on other people speculating about it, not her actually talking about it. I think it's pretty lame for a (male) journalist to just assert that songs are about specific people based on his presumed knowledge about her love life.0 -
bootlegger10 said:BF25394 said:YourDirtisMyfood said:Taylor does have a song called Hey Stephen from one of her earlier songs about, presumably a previous boyfriend.
I have no doubt she's written songs about prior and/or current relationships. Every artist does. But, for some reason, her love life is dissected endlessly. Some people would say that she lives these relationships out in public and wants people talking about it (see Travis Kelce), but she had a five- or six-year relationship before that with Joe Alwyn where they were as off the radar as someone as famous as she is can be. A lot of what people think they know about her personal life is based on other people speculating about it, not her actually talking about it. I think it's pretty lame for a (male) journalist to just assert that songs are about specific people based on his presumed knowledge about her love life."I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
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