Billie Eilish criticize artists releasing several vinyl variants

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,761
    Shout out to cynicism.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,280
    bootlegger10 said:
    Shout out to children masquerading as adults collecting 12 different colors of their favorite toy.
    Cynicism or not, this is hilarious. And true. 
  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,876
    edited March 2024
    To be fair PJ fans collect a bunch of shit… sell now your kids and regular society doesn’t give a shit about it, I did and put my down payment on a house. Way worth it than staring at something that will eventually be thrown away when I die 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,761
    I’m curious what’s worse buying 12 variants or traveling to a couple different shows
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,761
    Honestly, I land on just let people enjoy stuff and do your best to make things better where you can. 
  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    Foriginal Sin said:
    To be fair PJ fans collect a bunch of shit… sell now your kids and regular society doesn’t give a shit about it, I did and put my down payment on a house. Way worth it than staring at something that will eventually be thrown away when I die 
    Your house will eventually be thrown away
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,839
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    Foriginal Sin said:
    To be fair PJ fans collect a bunch of shit… sell now your kids and regular society doesn’t give a shit about it, I did and put my down payment on a house. Way worth it than staring at something that will eventually be thrown away when I die 
    Your house will eventually be thrown away
    This made me laugh out loud.
    We will all eventually be thrown away.

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  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    I thought the new logo had a familiar color scheme and then I realized I walk past it almost
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,381
    What a fucking loser. I can’t stand her.  Im pretty sure stopping some extra colored variant records from being produced is not going to save the environment 🤦🏼
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,761
    Yikes
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Because there are bigger things that one could do to help the world does not mean that one should not do small things to help the world.

    Our individual choices add up. I have always driven a small car that gets high mileage per gallon. Does this amount to a "drop in the bucket" of oil consumption? Well, yes and no. It actually adds up to thousands of barrels of oil compared to a larger car or SUV over the lifetime of the car, which is figuratively, though not literally, a "drop in the bucket." However, if each of us makes similar choices, then we can collectively put a dent in the problem. But I don't throw my hands up and trade in my car when I see someone blow by me in a Hummer. I still do my part.

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  • js87130
    js87130 Posts: 90
    edited March 2024
    I don't know about the environmental argument but having 12+ variants certainly takes advantage of a part of your fanbase.  A few variants is fine but having this many is lame.  I'm a completist and have almost every PJ record on vinyl.  I would have to spend more than $600 to get all of these variants, if I can get them at retail cost.  I don't know how many people on this thread are collectors but from my perspective, and the perspective of other collectors that I know, this is a really disappointing trend and taking the fun out of collecting.  I won't be chasing down these variants.  It's just unfortunate.  
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,558
    Tim Simmons said:
    I’m curious what’s worse buying 12 variants or traveling to a couple different shows
    Nobody knows because there's no "if we do X we will see Y benefit as measured by Z results." It's why while the vast majority of people believe there is a manmade negative impact on the climate a large percentage don't do much or anything to change their behavior. They keep buying stacks of records, taking 8 flights on a tour, etc etc. Subconsciously they don't believe they can actually make a dent. But it kinda clears that conscience to fret about it while you do it anyway.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    edited March 2024
    js87130 said:
    I don't know about the environmental argument but having 12+ variants certainly takes advantage of a part of your fanbase.  A few variants is fine but having this many is lame.  I'm a completist and have almost every PJ record on vinyl.  I would have to spend more than $600 to get all of these variants, if I can get them at retail cost.  I don't know how many people on this thread are collectors but from my perspective, and the perspective of other collectors that I know, this is a really disappointing trend and taking the fun out of collecting.  I won't be chasing down these variants.  It's just unfortunate.  
    Yes, the phrase I used in other post on this topic is that it exploits the goodwill of your fanbase.

    EDIT: I'm referring here not to different colors necessarily, but to releasing four versions each containing a unique song.
    Post edited by BF25394 on
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,558
    Given the amount of energy Pearl Jam has put into advocating for climate-related issues I tend to believe that if putting out a single black pressing made any sort of difference that's what they would do 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    pjl44 said:
    Given the amount of energy Pearl Jam has put into advocating for climate-related issues I tend to believe that if putting out a single black pressing made any sort of difference that's what they would do 
    I wouldn't assume that. Everything makes a difference. Manufacturing bits of plastic that wouldn't exist if you didn't choose to offer them uses resources that wouldn't otherwise be used. Of course, black records and CDs also consume resources, but their primary purpose is to allow people to own the music. The variants' primary purpose is to be collected. Sure, some people will buy only one variant (and not the standard black) for the purpose of listening to it, but most of the variants sold will be to people who are buying them in addition to the black version and/or the CD. I wouldn't assume that Pearl Jam has thought about the implications of this.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,558
    BF25394 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Given the amount of energy Pearl Jam has put into advocating for climate-related issues I tend to believe that if putting out a single black pressing made any sort of difference that's what they would do 
    I wouldn't assume that. Everything makes a difference. Manufacturing bits of plastic that wouldn't exist if you didn't choose to offer them uses resources that wouldn't otherwise be used. Of course, black records and CDs also consume resources, but their primary purpose is to allow people to own the music. The variants' primary purpose is to be collected. Sure, some people will buy only one variant (and not the standard black) for the purpose of listening to it, but most of the variants sold will be to people who are buying them in addition to the black version and/or the CD. I wouldn't assume that Pearl Jam has thought about the implications of this.
    Possibly but you have to take a pretty cynical view of their activism to believe that's the case
  • JKestle
    JKestle Posts: 65
    Isn't the idea of 12 different "regional" variants to provide direct support to the local record shops that will distribute them? 

    If that's the spirit of the idea, then I say buy as many as you like.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,929
    It's become hypocritical . 
    The values of old no longer stand


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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,807
    JKestle said:
    Isn't the idea of 12 different "regional" variants to provide direct support to the local record shops that will distribute them? 

    If that's the spirit of the idea, then I say buy as many as you like.
    Yes.. to benefit record stores sure. 
    Personally I don't collect anything other than stickers... they are great memoirs of shows. 
    I don't see the point of the same record owned in different colors unless you just l like to frame pretty things on your wall. 

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