Billie Eilish criticize artists releasing several vinyl variants

Spiritual_Chaos

Obviously Pearl Jam related with them lemmeling along with the practice. And Pearl Jam fans fuelling the problem: 

You’re working to make vinyl more sustainable. Happier Than Ever came in eight vinyl variants, but you use 100% recycled black vinyl — plus recycled scraps for colored variants — and shrink-wrap made from sugar cane.

Eilish: We live in this day and age where, for some reason, it’s very important to some artists to make all sorts of different vinyl and packaging … which ups the sales and ups the numbers and gets them more money and gets them more…

Baird: Well, it counts toward No. 1 albums.

Eilish: I can’t even express to you how wasteful it is. It is right in front of our faces and people are just getting away with it left and right, and I find it really frustrating as somebody who really goes out of my way to be sustainable and do the best that I can and try to involve everybody in my team in being sustainable — and then it’s some of the biggest artists in the world making f–king 40 different vinyl packages that have a different unique thing just to get you to keep buying more. It’s so wasteful, and it’s irritating to me that we’re still at a point where you care that much about your numbers and you care that much about making money — and it’s all your favorite artists doing that sh-t.

Baird: But to be fair, the problem is systemic, right? Because if Billboard, to be honest, is going to not have limits… I would love to see limits, like no more than four colors. Or some kind of rules, because you can’t fault an artist for playing the No. 1 game.

Eilish: I was watching The Hunger Games and it made me think about it, because it’s like, we’re all going to do it because [it’s] the only way to play the game. It’s just accentuating this already kind of messed up way of this industry working.

/.../

Eilish: It’s a never-ending f–king fight. As we all know, it’s pretty impossible to force someone to care. All you can do is express and explain your beliefs, but a lot of people don’t really understand the severity of the climate [crisis]. And if they do, they’re like, “Well, what’s the point? We’re all going to die anyway.” Believe me, I feel that way too. But “what’s the point” goes both ways: “What’s the point? I can do whatever I want. We’re all going to die anyway.” Or, “What’s the point? I might as well do the right thing while I’m here.” That’s my view.



A bunch more about being an artist in a sustainable way in her interview with Billboard: https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/billie-eilish-sustainability-eco-friendly-initiatives-mom-1235642455/

Weston1283

Meanwhile her latest album is available in 8 different colors on her web store…. Regardless of how she’s Recycling this or that, she’s doing the same thing as the others lol

I really enjoyed her first album but she’s slowly becoming insufferable at times tbh

Tim Simmons

If they think they are gonna sell 100,000 copies, who cares how many variants they press? I’d argue that few people in most fanbases chase every single variant and that the additional copies sold is marginal.

Tim Simmons

Now, unless your argument is existing  is environmentally unsustainable, then fine.

on2legs

What does “lemmeling” mean?

pjl44

Yes it's the different colors making the environmental impact and not sourcing materials, shipping materials, the plants, the trucks delivering them to stores and peoples' homes, etc 

Tim Simmons

on2legs said:

What does “lemmeling” mean?

I assume they’re saying PJ are lemmings because other popular acts are doing it too. 

YourDirtisMyfood

Takin' a drive, I was an ideal
Looked so alive, turns out I'm not real
Just something you paid for
What was I made for?

LBCeddie

So will you be polluting Sweden with the unfair tri-color vinyl?  Or did Sweden survive because the variant is not pretty enough for you? 

Tim Simmons

If they can guarantee recycled vinyl can sound as good as virgin, then fine I’m onboard. There’s already enough risks to take when buying vinyl I don’t need another one in the mix. 

I mean, in a way she’s right, it is wasteful and irresponsible, but on the list of wasteful and irresponsible things we do to the environment, vinyl record production is way low on the list. Good for her for speaking out and taking a stand. I feel like there’s more impactful stuff she could be doing, but this is something.

THEBIBLEISTEN

you called it disgusting if I remember correctly, good thing you got Billie to agree with you. What  does Billie Idol think? We all want to know. 

Loujoe

^It's a nice day to...start again

bootlegger10

My immediate thought was how 12 vinyls is wasteful and just more trash.  People will try to get all 12 so it isn’t like 100 people want to buy 1 vinyl and they end up with different colors.  80 of them will buy 12 if they can. 

In the grand scheme of things though, it is a less than a drop in the bucket.

i am a target

bork bork bork

LBCeddie

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

you called it disgusting if I remember correctly, good thing you got Billie to agree with you. What  does Billie Idol think? We all want to know. 

One of his quotes was "Of course, Pearl Jam would go down this icky-icky path"

Then he took about 7 breaths, and whined that the Euro vinyl is not pretty enough.  He probably bought 2 copies. 

TK46426

If a band comes out with a new album and have a plant make 50,000 copies black or 50,000 in 12 different colors what’s the difference? 

vant0037

To paraphrase Ian Mackaye: “At least [she’s] fucking trying!”

She’s not wrong.  It’s a valid question I’ve wrestled with - as someone who is taking three flights to see bands this year and who has purchased several new records.  If plastic consumption is at an all time high and recycling of plastic has turned out to be a big fat lie promoted by the oil companies, and the reusable plastics market desperately needs viable products, IS it ethically defensible anymore to release multiple record variants if it’s true that it contributes to a known problem?  Is it defensible to buy them?

F Me In The Brain

Weston1283 said:

Meanwhile her latest album is available in 8 different colors on her web store…. Regardless of how she’s Recycling this or that, she’s doing the same thing as the others lol

I really enjoyed her first album but she’s slowly becoming insufferable at times tbh

She is awesome.
We are fans of Pearl Jam....and is there someone who fits the mold of what you are describing better than EV?       
I still live the band but they have been making insufferable cool since the 90s

Spunkie

Know what else about what I like about this young artist? When I went to her show, she let water bottles inside. She would rather risk someone whipping one up on stage then have a million people drinking plastic water.

pjl44

Shout out to everyone who is convinced they're harming the environment but aren't going to do anything differently but want to make sure people know they're wrestling with it

bootlegger10

Shout out to children masquerading as adults collecting 12 different colors of their favorite toy.

Tim Simmons

Shout out to cynicism.

nicknyr15

bootlegger10 said:

Shout out to children masquerading as adults collecting 12 different colors of their favorite toy.

Cynicism or not, this is hilarious. And true. 

Foriginal Sin

To be fair PJ fans collect a bunch of shit… sell now your kids and regular society doesn’t give a shit about it, I did and put my down payment on a house. Way worth it than staring at something that will eventually be thrown away when I die 

Tim Simmons

I’m curious what’s worse buying 12 variants or traveling to a couple different shows

Tim Simmons

Honestly, I land on just let people enjoy stuff and do your best to make things better where you can. 

BloodMeridian80

Foriginal Sin said:

To be fair PJ fans collect a bunch of shit… sell now your kids and regular society doesn’t give a shit about it, I did and put my down payment on a house. Way worth it than staring at something that will eventually be thrown away when I die 

Your house will eventually be thrown away

F Me In The Brain

BloodMeridian80 said:

Foriginal Sin said:

To be fair PJ fans collect a bunch of shit… sell now your kids and regular society doesn’t give a shit about it, I did and put my down payment on a house. Way worth it than staring at something that will eventually be thrown away when I die 

Your house will eventually be thrown away

This made me laugh out loud.
We will all eventually be thrown away.

Hobbes

Abe Froman

What a fucking loser. I can’t stand her.  Im pretty sure stopping some extra colored variant records from being produced is not going to save the environment 🤦🏼

Tim Simmons

Yikes