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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    23scidoo said:
    Merkin Baller said:
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    Merkin Baller said:
    23scidoo said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    lol
    What, so you can make a claim based on an anecdote but no one else can?
    Memes too... the claim about 108 footballers was based on a meme. 

    Some people will believe anything. 
    Three professional football players collapse on the pitch mid-game, live on TV, in the space of a week..

    In 2007 no less…  =)  =)  =)  =)
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/aug/30/newsstory.sport7


    Sorry, unfortunately it was 4..

    That's only 1, not 4. 

    #math
    ''I've done the math enough to know
    The dangers of our second guessing''..
    Schism is a great song...
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,937
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    23scidoo said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    23scidoo said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    lol
    What, so you can make a claim based on an anecdote but no one else can?
    Memes too... the claim about 108 footballers was based on a meme. 

    Some people will believe anything. 
    Three professional football players collapse on the pitch mid-game, live on TV, in the space of a week..

    In 2007 no less…  =)  =)  =)  =)
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/aug/30/newsstory.sport7


    Sorry, unfortunately it was 4..

    That's only 1, not 4. 

    #math
    ''I've done the math enough to know
    The dangers of our second guessing''..
    Schism is a great song...
    It is..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • Evel K
    Evel K Posts: 582

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/texas-doctors-force-fda-to-remove-covid-19-posts-in-settlement
    I took a long break from this post because, at times, it definitely felt like it was way more than 5-5-5 against 1. Sorry to read about @brianlux and I hope you're doing better. My main point was and is today that there was a concerted effort to suppress multiple treatments of Covid in favor of vaccines. The United States alone had secured half a billion shots  before they were approved. The US government was all-in on vaccines. If treatments are known to be working the amount of people getting vaccinated decreases. 
    Things were different then
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Evel K said:

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/texas-doctors-force-fda-to-remove-covid-19-posts-in-settlement
    I took a long break from this post because, at times, it definitely felt like it was way more than 5-5-5 against 1. Sorry to read about @brianlux and I hope you're doing better. My main point was and is today that there was a concerted effort to suppress multiple treatments of Covid in favor of vaccines. The United States alone had secured half a billion shots  before they were approved. The US government was all-in on vaccines. If treatments are known to be working the amount of people getting vaccinated decreases. 

    Thanks for kind thought, K.
    About 20 years ago, I volunteered at the Marshall Health Library in Placerville, CA.  One of the things we promoted strongly there was the notion of "Complimentary Therapies", the idea being to take the best from traditional as well as alternative medicine.  As much as it is impressive that these vaccines were created in amazingly short time, I question how well they have been test.  I'd also have like to see a more open-mined outlook at the wider scope which would include alternative therapies as well (and, of course, I'm not talking about bogus nonsense such as drinking bleach and such). 
    I think many people have had good protection from vaccines, but there are people who have not fared so well.  I have not been able to prove (so will not claim) that the vaccines affected my health negatively, but since getting them, I now have a life-long autoimmune disease that that has given me ulcerated oral lichen planus (I have sores in my mouth all the time that make eating difficult), as well as lichen planus on my legs, arms, chest, and back (and it ain't pretty).  Add to that frequent periods of low energy and fatigue, a sore throat that comes and goes in a matter of hours, feeling feverish for a few to several hours but when I take my temp it registers below normal, and recurring pain in my abdomen.  All undiagnosed by various doctors.  They haven't a clue.  Was this all cause by the vaccines?  I cannot say.  But that's when it all started.
    So yeah, sadly, we live in a rather black and white, all-or-nothing world. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    edited March 2024
    Evel K said:

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/texas-doctors-force-fda-to-remove-covid-19-posts-in-settlement
    I took a long break from this post because, at times, it definitely felt like it was way more than 5-5-5 against 1. Sorry to read about @brianlux and I hope you're doing better. My main point was and is today that there was a concerted effort to suppress multiple treatments of Covid in favor of vaccines. The United States alone had secured half a billion shots  before they were approved. The US government was all-in on vaccines. If treatments are known to be working the amount of people getting vaccinated decreases. 
    Why don’t you share the first sentence in the article that you’re claiming is blowing the whistle on suppressing facts?

    “ The FDA agreed to delete certain social media posts and webpage updates that urged people to stop using ivermectin to treat or prevent Covid-19.”

    Edit: shame on any credible news site that gives a clickbait title like this one that trolls can easily use to spread garbage claims
    Post edited by benjs on
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    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    please explain to me how an anti-parasitic is effective against a virus
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    mickeyrat said:
    please explain to me how an anti-parasitic is effective against a virus
    If it kills the host, it kills the virus.
    Dead patient = no more Covid.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    please explain to me how an anti-parasitic is effective against a virus
    If it kills the host, it kills the virus.
    Dead patient = no more Covid.
    That's some incontrovertible evidence right there. We should really promote mass suicide as an alternative too.
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    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,875
    Many medicines work on multiple things and by mistake like Viagra. Not made for hard ons


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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    A lot of people were pushing bullshit treatments for mysterious reasons... hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, drinking bleach, shining flashlights up your ass (those last two came from the president who was in office at the time btw :D )... If people want to treat their covid by drinking bleach or ingesting a parasite killer or sticking mag-lights up their butts, have at it. 

    With that being said, none of those things had proven effective against covid, so I can't really fault the government for advising against those treatments considering how contagious the virus was. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    benjs said:
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    please explain to me how an anti-parasitic is effective against a virus
    If it kills the host, it kills the virus.
    Dead patient = no more Covid.
    That's some incontrovertible evidence right there. We should really promote mass suicide as an alternative too.
    No one appreciates your negativity.  Poncier is thinking outside the box, spitballing.  It's healthy and the same thing Trump did when suggesting lasers and bleach during his daily briefings.  If that type of thinking is good enough for 45, it's good enough for me.  
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    Merkin Baller said:
     shining flashlights up your ass (those last two came from the president who was in office at the time btw :D )..
    I thought that was to find the gerbil, not cure Covid.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Poncier said:
    Merkin Baller said:
     shining flashlights up your ass (those last two came from the president who was in office at the time btw :D )..
    I thought that was to find the gerbil, not cure Covid.
    Why would you want to remove it?
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    Lemmiwinks!!!!!
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868

    This weekend we rock Portland
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    my oh my what the kids these days are learning.....
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    Hey look, I love you guys, but this thread is so far down and I have a hard enough time looking up these days.  Please remind me to stay the fuck off this one, thanks.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    edited March 2024
    Sorry for being to quick too anger guys.  Didn't mean to shame or blame. 
    Stay well, y'all.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    Poncier said:

    Certainly wasn't the reference I was expecting in the Covid thread, lol! What a classic.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    edited March 2024
    Get a load of this Bozo:

    Yellowstone Star Claims He Was Kicked Off Plane For Refusing To Sit Next To Masked Passenger

    'Yellowstone' Star Claims He Was Kicked Off Plane For Refusing To Sit Next To Masked Passenger

    Anti-vax actor Forrie J. Smith took to Instagram to claim he was kicked off a flight because he didn't 'feel comfortable' sitting next to someone who was wearing a mask, while admitting that he'd 'been drinking.'




    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











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