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It uses mRNA. And I've been told by crazy people that it alters DNA.AW124797 said:
How is this bad news for conspiracy theorists?mrussel1 said:This is good news for humanity, bad news for conspiracy theorists. Maybe they will have to choose between the jab that alters your DNA and kills you on the spot, or months (or years) of chemo. I know what I would do.
https://www.the-sun.com/health/11244298/mrna-cancer-vaccine-first-clinical-trial-glioblastoma/
A NEW mRNA cancer vaccine can reprogram the immune system to attack tumours within 48 hours, a study shows.0 -
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Brian, sorry to hear about your condition. I hope you'll get better soon.brianlux said:Zod said:I feel like I'm in the middle ground on this. I've never gotten flu vaccines, because my bouts with the Flu are few and far between. I think the last time I had a flu was in 2009. I think it was the swine or bird flu or something. Kicked my on my ass for 5 days but then I was fine. That's about as bad as it gets for me. Most flu's I've had are few and far between and I get sick for a few days, then back to life.I feel like Covid is there now. Many people stopped doing the boosters (me included) in 2022, and it doesn't seem to be having a big impact.If I was older, was immunocompromised, or had other conditions which made it abnormally dangerous I'd absolutely get a booster. Generally I only get vaccines if I think the thing I'm being vaccinated against really has the ability to make me deathly ill. I think that time has passed with covid.I try not to get shots for something that might make me mildly sick. I save it for things what will make me violently sick or cause death.I do not look forward to the day that older age knocks my immune system a few pegs. I feel like I can argue the way I can because it's been fairly robust my whole life, so I don't usually get sick too much, and when I do, not usually that bad. Makes it easier it to not get things like flu shots of the consequences are relatively minor.The irony for me is that I came down with Epstein-Barr in the 1980s and that virus stays in the body forever. That means I am somewhat immunocompromised and so have gotten all the COVID vaccines and boosters. But then, after the last booster in October of 2023, I ended up with an autoimmune condition and other related conditions. That leaves me with the choice of getting the next booster when it comes out and risking more serious non-COVID illness or not getting the booster and risking getting COVID. So what to do? Probably no more booster and just be thankful to have lived this long.Now, if I could, I would get in a time machine and avoid all the things that started my row of dominoes falling. I think if a person lives a healthy life style in the first place (better late than never, which is what I did), they may not need all these injections. Eat well, exercise, don't take drugs, don't drink to excess, don't smoke, live somewhere safe and as free of toxins as possible- all of that. I don't think a person who practices a lifetime of healthy living needs to put these vaccine chemicals in their body in the first place. Sounds to me like you've lived right, Zod.Thank you, AW, most kind of young. I'm doing OK now that I've got the horrid videonystagmography test over with and pretty much recovered from it.And by the way, that word will be on next weeks spelling test.
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Seems like old news.23scidoo said:‘In April 2021, the World Health Organisation also confirmed that the vaccine could have fatal side effects. “A very rare adverse event called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, involving unusual and severe blood clotting events associated with low platelet counts, has been reported after vaccination with this vaccine.”0 -
It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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Did astrazeneca make that claim? Or the british government?
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How about you quit making shit up. The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:23scidoo said:It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [1, 2, 3]
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html
Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.0 -
But..but..here says ''safe and effective''..mrussel1 said:
How about you quit making shit up. The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:23scidoo said:It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [1, 2, 3]
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html
Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
and also I admire your innocence..Post edited by 23scidoo onAthens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
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This, without any question, made my day…..the whole weekend!!! Sometimes you guys really make me laugh….thanks!mrussel1 said:
How about you quit making shit up. The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:23scidoo said:It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [1, 2, 3]
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html
Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.0 -
and yet...if you'd stop being disingenuous and include the text on the entire page, all you have to do is scroll down the page for a millisecond, you'd see this:23scidoo said:
But..but..here says ''safe and effective''..mrussel1 said:
How about you quit making shit up. The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:23scidoo said:It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [1, 2, 3]
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html
Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
and also I admire your innocence..Common Side Effects
Some people have side effects after COVID-19 vaccination, while others might have no side effects. Side effects tend to be mild, such as soreness at the injection site and fever, and should go away within a few days. Learn more about common side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
Adverse Events (Health Problems) Are Rare
In rare cases, people have experienced more significant adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination. Any health problem that happens after vaccination is considered an adverse event. An adverse event can be caused by the vaccine or can be caused by a coincidental event not related to the vaccine, such as an unrelated fever, that happened following vaccination.
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Of course the govt said it's safe and effective. Otherwise it wouldn't release it. You said 100%. The link doesn't say that.23scidoo said:
But..but..here says ''safe and effective''..mrussel1 said:
How about you quit making shit up. The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:23scidoo said:It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [1, 2, 3]
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html
Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
and also I admire your innocence..
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How about to tell that to the thousands of families who believes their lies and now suffering??..HughFreakingDillon said:
and yet...if you'd stop being disingenuous and include the text on the entire page, all you have to do is scroll down the page for a millisecond, you'd see this:23scidoo said:
But..but..here says ''safe and effective''..mrussel1 said:
How about you quit making shit up. The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:23scidoo said:It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [1, 2, 3]
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html
Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html
and also I admire your innocence..Common Side Effects
Some people have side effects after COVID-19 vaccination, while others might have no side effects. Side effects tend to be mild, such as soreness at the injection site and fever, and should go away within a few days. Learn more about common side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
Adverse Events (Health Problems) Are Rare
In rare cases, people have experienced more significant adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination. Any health problem that happens after vaccination is considered an adverse event. An adverse event can be caused by the vaccine or can be caused by a coincidental event not related to the vaccine, such as an unrelated fever, that happened following vaccination.
does the vaccine effect your memory??..because you are all forget very easy..Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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Yesterdays consipiracies, todays facts..Halifax2TheMax said:Conspiracies never die. Look at the folks who waited in Dealey plaza.Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..0 -
jwhjr17 said:I can't believe anyone is still even debating this from any sideIf I could have the final word on this subject (and of course I won't-- it will go on for close to eternity, lol), it would be this:I'm fairly certain my current autoimmune issue is related to the vaccines. Because of that, I have lichen planus on my arms and sometimes on my chest, and I have oral lichen planus that has taken a lot of the joy out of eating. That all sucks.I'm also fairly certain that a lot of people died of COVID before the vaccines came along, and that sucks even more.I know for certain that I'm still alive, and that as much as it is uncomfortable much of the time, I can still eat enough to stay nourished. That is awesome.I also know for certain that a lot of people are alive today because of the vaccines. That is even more awesome!And lastly, we all know that the likelihood of having an adverse reaction the the vaccine is small and the chances of it saving your life is big.So really, let's just stop this silly nonsense argument and realize nothing is perfect, and that a vaccine, any vaccine, will affect a small percentage of people negatively (frankly, tough shit, that's life*), and a lot of people get to live because we have vaccines.Hallelujah!*P.S. regarding the "(frankly, tough shit, that's life*) statement, I mean that only about myself or might say that about the trouble humans in general have caused. I would never direct a statement like that specifically to another person suffering an illness or disorder.
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You don't need a mask. Later: You need a mask, we didn't want you to panic buy them and hospitals come up short.cblock4life said:
This, without any question, made my day…..the whole weekend!!! Sometimes you guys really make me laugh….thanks!mrussel1 said:
How about you quit making shit up. The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:23scidoo said:It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [1, 2, 3]
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html
Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.
It didn't come from a lab in Wuhan. Later: It very well may have come from a lab in Wuhan, we'll never know.
Vaccines will prevent transmission of Covid. Later: It will reduce the risk, but prevent you from having severe symptoms...usually.
We must maintain 6 feet distance for safety. Later: That number was basically arbitrarily decided and wasn't based on science.
Your gov't lied to you every step of the way.1996: 9/29 Randall's Island 2, 10/1 Buffalo 2000: 8/27 Saratoga Springs
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Please, don't wake up them..seanwon said:
You don't need a mask. Later: You need a mask, we didn't want you to panic buy them and hospitals come up short.cblock4life said:
This, without any question, made my day…..the whole weekend!!! Sometimes you guys really make me laugh….thanks!mrussel1 said:
How about you quit making shit up. The CDC, on its webpage, last updated in Sept 2020, says:23scidoo said:It wasn't 100% safe and effective??..
Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently. [1, 2, 3]
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html
Maybe your gov't lied to you, but mine didn't.
It didn't come from a lab in Wuhan. Later: It very well may have come from a lab in Wuhan, we'll never know.
Vaccines will prevent transmission of Covid. Later: It will reduce the risk, but prevent you from having severe symptoms...usually.
We must maintain 6 feet distance for safety. Later: That number was basically arbitrarily decided and wasn't based on science.
Your gov't lied to you every step of the way.Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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So, was it a lab leak? Or a wet market? Anyone?
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