Stone Gossard interview with SPIN 3/19/24

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,049
    RatherStarved said:
    I liked that 2023 sprinkled Gigaton in but wasn’t really Gigaton focused.  2022 was more Gigaton focused.

     I am a bit concerned this year won’t have much bandwidth for variety, with their determination to play the new shit, shorter sets, and the staples like Even Flow and Alive.  

    On a given night there’s still nowhere I’d rather be than at a PJ show, and it’s still so cool they are still around, but it’s going to be a little disappointing compared to what it could be this year.  
    This is nothing new.  Go back to previous album tours before the shows became super long.  In 2000, they were playing up to 8 songs from Binaural at some of the shows with shorter setlists.  They were great shows.  These will be great shows.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,831
    kmcmanus said:
    It is absolutely insane to be talking about how “disappointing” it’s “going to be” at the shows in March. Also insane to decide the album will suck based on 20 seconds of Bill Raftery calls as I’ve seen more than once.
    I don’t understand this fanbase at all sometimes.
    I didn’t realize preferring a more balanced setlist was the definition of insanity.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
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  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 903
    RatherStarved said:
    kmcmanus said:
    It is absolutely insane to be talking about how “disappointing” it’s “going to be” at the shows in March. Also insane to decide the album will suck based on 20 seconds of Bill Raftery calls as I’ve seen more than once.
    I don’t understand this fanbase at all sometimes.
    I didn’t realize preferring a more balanced setlist was the definition of insanity.  
    I didn’t realize you had a time machine to know what the setlists are months ahead of time
  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 903
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    kmcmanus said:
    It is absolutely insane to be talking about how “disappointing” it’s “going to be” at the shows in March. Also insane to decide the album will suck based on 20 seconds of Bill Raftery calls as I’ve seen more than once.
    I don’t understand this fanbase at all sometimes.
    You underestimate the power of a going from a pessimistic point of view baseline to later being severely pleasantly surprised  
    If I needed that level of mental gymnastics to enjoy a show I think that would tell me that I don’t actually like the band in question that much.
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,128
    kmcmanus said:
    It is absolutely insane to be talking about how “disappointing” it’s “going to be” at the shows in March. Also insane to decide the album will suck based on 20 seconds of Bill Raftery calls as I’ve seen more than once.
    I don’t understand this fanbase at all sometimes.
    First time here?
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,023
    kmcmanus said:
    It is absolutely insane to be talking about how “disappointing” it’s “going to be” at the shows in March. Also insane to decide the album will suck based on 20 seconds of Bill Raftery calls as I’ve seen more than once.
    I don’t understand this fanbase at all sometimes.
    X1000. I agree. It’s getting old with all the negativity on here. We have a new album and tour, be excited and grateful.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,049
    RatherStarved said:
    kmcmanus said:
    It is absolutely insane to be talking about how “disappointing” it’s “going to be” at the shows in March. Also insane to decide the album will suck based on 20 seconds of Bill Raftery calls as I’ve seen more than once.
    I don’t understand this fanbase at all sometimes.
    I didn’t realize preferring a more balanced setlist was the definition of insanity.  

    “Most things I worry about never happen anyway.”  - Tom Petty 

    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,831
    kmcmanus said:
    RatherStarved said:
    kmcmanus said:
    It is absolutely insane to be talking about how “disappointing” it’s “going to be” at the shows in March. Also insane to decide the album will suck based on 20 seconds of Bill Raftery calls as I’ve seen more than once.
    I don’t understand this fanbase at all sometimes.
    I didn’t realize preferring a more balanced setlist was the definition of insanity.  
    I didn’t realize you had a time machine to know what the setlists are months ahead of time
    No time machine.  Just the ability to read the article.  Thanks 
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  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 717
    kmcmanus said:
    It is absolutely insane to be talking about how “disappointing” it’s “going to be” at the shows in March. Also insane to decide the album will suck based on 20 seconds of Bill Raftery calls as I’ve seen more than once.
    I don’t understand this fanbase at all sometimes.
    The clip of SS I heard didn’t have Raftery on it. Still not a fan of those 20 seconds. I don’t recall anyone saying the ‘whole album’ is going to suck because of it. Seems you’re kinda doing the same over conflation here.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,049
    What if Bill Rafferty is on the studio version?!? Kind of like Phil Rizzuto on Paradise by the Dashboard Light.  Epic!
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,646
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    It is absolutely insane to be talking about how “disappointing” it’s “going to be” at the shows in March. Also insane to decide the album will suck based on 20 seconds of Bill Raftery calls as I’ve seen more than once.
    I don’t understand this fanbase at all sometimes.
    The clip of SS I heard didn’t have Raftery on it. Still not a fan of those 20 seconds. I don’t recall anyone saying the ‘whole album’ is going to suck because of it. Seems you’re kinda doing the same over conflation here.
    The Bill Raftery thing was a joke I made but the larger point was that the song was playing alongside additional production 
  • WindowPaine
    WindowPaine Chicopee, MA Posts: 542
    Jimmydean55 said:
    deb1211 said:
    Stone mentioned SOLAT and Breath about waiting for Stevie really got me excited
    Same!
    That's kind of nuts to compare it to two of the greatest songs PJ have ever written. Like everything else, i'll wait and see and never get my hopes up.

    FYI it's not crazy or hopeful when a band says their newest album is their 'best' or 'favorite', etc. I'd think EVERY artist would think that about their newest material. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,644
    And what artist doesn't try to sell his/her new product. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,738
    Great article! I was already excited for the new album- now I’m very, very excited! The best line of the article has to be, when talking about dark matter, “Ed’s lyric is very timely, even though I don’t know exactly what it means.” That might be the most stone statement I’ve ever heard 🤣
  • domjon77
    domjon77 Posts: 38
    WindowPaine said:
    Jimmydean55 said:
    deb1211 said:
    Stone mentioned SOLAT and Breath about waiting for Stevie really got me excited
    Same!
    That's kind of nuts to compare it to two of the greatest songs PJ have ever written. Like everything else, i'll wait and see and never get my hopes up.

    FYI it's not crazy or hopeful when a band says their newest album is their 'best' or 'favorite', etc. I'd think EVERY artist would think that about their newest material. 
    Let's not get ahead of our skis to much here. For the sake of accuracy, it was the interviewer was the one who compared Waiting For Stevie to Breath/SOLAT, not Stone.
  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,023
    domjon77 said:
    WindowPaine said:
    Jimmydean55 said:
    deb1211 said:
    Stone mentioned SOLAT and Breath about waiting for Stevie really got me excited
    Same!
    That's kind of nuts to compare it to two of the greatest songs PJ have ever written. Like everything else, i'll wait and see and never get my hopes up.

    FYI it's not crazy or hopeful when a band says their newest album is their 'best' or 'favorite', etc. I'd think EVERY artist would think that about their newest material. 
    Let's not get ahead of our skis to much here. For the sake of accuracy, it was the interviewer was the one who compared Waiting For Stevie to Breath/SOLAT, not Stone.
    True, and we've had similar types of comparisons be way off base (Sirens/Black), but this still excites me that someone was reminded of SOLAT/Breath by a new song. So taken with a grain of salt.
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  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,828
    spankyMP said:
    domjon77 said:
    WindowPaine said:
    Jimmydean55 said:
    deb1211 said:
    Stone mentioned SOLAT and Breath about waiting for Stevie really got me excited
    Same!
    That's kind of nuts to compare it to two of the greatest songs PJ have ever written. Like everything else, i'll wait and see and never get my hopes up.

    FYI it's not crazy or hopeful when a band says their newest album is their 'best' or 'favorite', etc. I'd think EVERY artist would think that about their newest material. 
    Let's not get ahead of our skis to much here. For the sake of accuracy, it was the interviewer was the one who compared Waiting For Stevie to Breath/SOLAT, not Stone.
    True, and we've had similar types of comparisons be way off base (Sirens/Black), but this still excites me that someone was reminded of SOLAT/Breath by a new song. So taken with a grain of salt.
    What's weirdest about this statement are that SOLAT and Breath really aren't much alike other than the actual production on both songs.  Both end with a solo, both get less busy instrumentally during the verses, and both were released at the same time, but outside of those few things, these 2 songs don't have a lot in common.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    VINNY GOOMBA said:
    spankyMP said:
    domjon77 said:
    WindowPaine said:
    Jimmydean55 said:
    deb1211 said:
    Stone mentioned SOLAT and Breath about waiting for Stevie really got me excited
    Same!
    That's kind of nuts to compare it to two of the greatest songs PJ have ever written. Like everything else, i'll wait and see and never get my hopes up.

    FYI it's not crazy or hopeful when a band says their newest album is their 'best' or 'favorite', etc. I'd think EVERY artist would think that about their newest material. 
    Let's not get ahead of our skis to much here. For the sake of accuracy, it was the interviewer was the one who compared Waiting For Stevie to Breath/SOLAT, not Stone.
    True, and we've had similar types of comparisons be way off base (Sirens/Black), but this still excites me that someone was reminded of SOLAT/Breath by a new song. So taken with a grain of salt.
    What's weirdest about this statement are that SOLAT and Breath really aren't much alike other than the actual production on both songs.  Both end with a solo, both get less busy instrumentally during the verses, and both were released at the same time, but outside of those few things, these 2 songs don't have a lot in common.
    Yeah, "Breath" is midtempo with a lot of space in the arrangement, whereas "State of Love and Trust" is uptempo with very little space.
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  • marumaruko
    marumaruko Posts: 417
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  • MD190661
    MD190661 Posts: 394
    If Dark Matter is better than Gigaton, then I'll be fine hearing 6-8 songs from it at the one show I am seeing. If not, I'll be kind of bummed. I like hearing bands play their new stuff. Not that into nostalgia acts. 
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