Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

otter · February 2024

Are people been getting emails continuously today? Or was there one dump?

mcgruff10 · February 2024

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

Just spitballing here...What if you did not get picked for GA and a glitch of some kind did not then dump you into the P1 lottery like it should have? That could easily result in a shutout of the whole show. By selecting the 2nd box, you would then be in it for sure.

That's what I'm thinking. I only put in for p1 for both philly shows and got nada.

Lerxst1992 · February 2024

cincybearcat said:

know1 said:

SHZA said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

know1 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.

I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure

Right, "selecting multiple seat preferences will increase your chances" -- i.e., selecting GA-P1 increases your chances compared to just P1, and adding P2 increases your chances further, but checking P1 in addition to GA-P1 shouldn't increase your chances because P1 is the same seat preference you already selected. Unless there was a second pool of P1s that weren't included in the GA-P1 pool. If that's not the case, then P1 only should have been disabled (or automatically checked) once you selected GA-P1.

It's difficult to understand how someone could be going against what the fan club told us was the case. If they said right there in black and white that choosing more options increased your chances, why would you second guess it and not follow their instructions?

Same thing happened last lottery. And will happen next lottery.

What they were saying is there are very few GA tickets. Picking only GA and P1 will lower chances. But this all started with a fan winning four of four shows in the NY PHIL BALT draws, notoriously difficult tickets to win,(later they disclosed among two memberships, but the odds of hitting four of these shows still very low ) and all of the wins were either p1 or GA. Those odds must be way under one percent, if we assume similar low odds as previous tours.

AFJAMMER · February 2024

otter said:

AFJAMMER said:

Vedders Crew said:

Listen Jammers! I have no idea how many 10 club members there are anymore. I literally got 2 shit seats for the 2 fan club Chicago shows that I went to last year. My seats haven't been good since probably 2006. I went to 9 shows that tour and my fan club seats were pretty good. I don't expect anything or Pearl Jam owes me anything for me being in the fan club for over 25 years. The band is there to make the most money possible and they deserve it even though their political ideology lean complete leftist! They have 100's of employees to pay healthcare, retirement, and other costs. If you didn't get tickets and been in the fan club since 92 I don't feel sorry for you. That's life. Also, you're probably too old anyways and Pearl Jam want to see some younger people in GA. Those are my thoughts. Anyways, for those that got tickets congrats. For those that didn't, I could care less. I don't feel sorry for you.

This.

Also, just stop renewing your membership if you feel you’ve been shafted. The same process will happen next tour. You will not suddenly be “guaranteed” anything.

Yeah, fair enough. But you have to feel a little bad for my 52 year old ass.
I’ve been in the club since forever and lost every time since 2002

I said this in an earlier post, Ticketmaster f2f will have seats at face value. A membership is becoming less valuable.

PJ_Soul · February 2024

Eddieredder said:

know1 said:

BF25394 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:
And an example of what I just asked, so forget that. I guess it would help to see a lot more split like this -> there should be significantly more GA N1 and P1 N2 (or vice versa) examples that GA N1 and GA N2. I've noticed a lot more of the latter.

I've highlighted a key phrase.

The night before the Super Bowl, I went out and did karaoke with some friends. One of my friends performed "Ca plane pour moi." A few days later, I was watching a hockey game when I saw a Heineken commercial with that song in it that I'd never noticed before. I mentioned it to the friend. Shortly thereafter, he replied that he saw it on a different channel. The next night, we were at a bar and the commercial came on TV while we were there. I've seen it a few more times since then.

Did this commercial not exist until last week, or did we just not notice it until the song was top-of-mind after the karaoke performance? I looked it up, and it turns out the ad has been airing since January 9. We did karaoke on February 10. I noticed the commercial for the first time on February 13. So it's the second option (something sometimes called Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon).

With respect to the ticket lottery, it's something different. People are noticing things that fit the pattern they think they see and not noticing the things that don't. It is normal for humans to do this.

Also - people could be lying about their results.

There are huge variables at play here and it's quite interesting to see how people can think they are so sure of something when they basically know almost nothing.

Its an interesting world we live in. Why would someone lie? Is it a misunderstanding? Who knows, but its pretty rampant on social media. Its also really easy. See ticket pricing. Go to any facebook post about the tour and you are bound to find someone claiming tix cost thousands of dollars. Often times its people who take RESALE as retail pricing. Look at how many people still don't get the difference between verified fan and fanclub draw.....

Does anyone actually know the person claiming they won 9 GAs? Do they know the actual details? Receipts?

One cannot properly decipher the message forum ticket statistics without factoring in the compulsive liar stat, lol.

Lerxst1992 · February 2024

PJammin' said:

SHZA said:

washed in black said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

washed in black said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

It seems (and seemed) pretty damn clear to me.

Agreed. you're getting 3 chances at the show. If you lose GA/P1 you get thrown into plain P1, lose that you get another chance at P2.

That's how we won Baltimore, a show we really wanted.

Why would P1 be separate draw for p1 seats than GA/p1?

Because it's a completely different option. There is no GA only option anymore, so if you want P1, you check every possible way you can get it.

But it could just mean that if you select GA-P1 instead of P1 by itself, then you have the added possibility of getting GA in addition to P1, rather than reducing your chances of getting P1 if you don't check both boxes.

I guess I should’ve checked both boxes. I just checked GA/P1 thinking if I didn’t get GA I’d get P1. I didn’t check both bcuz I thought that the P1 box was just for a person who definitely wanted a seat and not GA at all.

That logic seems incorrect. They were color coded and specifically labeled as p1. The distinction was p1 seated Vs p1 chance to be standing. They were giving fans the opportunity to pick a seat and rule out a chance to be standing, If anyone has the msg chart, please repost it, thanks.

mr bungle · February 2024

PJammin' said:

SHZA said:

washed in black said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

washed in black said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

It seems (and seemed) pretty damn clear to me.

Agreed. you're getting 3 chances at the show. If you lose GA/P1 you get thrown into plain P1, lose that you get another chance at P2.

That's how we won Baltimore, a show we really wanted.

Why would P1 be separate draw for p1 seats than GA/p1?

Because it's a completely different option. There is no GA only option anymore, so if you want P1, you check every possible way you can get it.

But it could just mean that if you select GA-P1 instead of P1 by itself, then you have the added possibility of getting GA in addition to P1, rather than reducing your chances of getting P1 if you don't check both boxes.

I guess I should’ve checked both boxes. I just checked GA/P1 thinking if I didn’t get GA I’d get P1. I didn’t check both bcuz I thought that the P1 box was just for a person who definitely wanted a seat and not GA at all.

I originally put in for GA-P1 for Seattle 1&2. Last minute i went back in and added P1. I ended up with P1 both nights. I'd like to think that checking both boxes increased my odds?

Leezestarr313 · February 2024

MD190661 said:

washed in black said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

washed in black said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

It seems (and seemed) pretty damn clear to me.

Agreed. you're getting 3 chances at the show. If you lose GA/P1 you get thrown into plain P1, lose that you get another chance at P2.

That's how we won Baltimore, a show we really wanted.

Why would P1 be separate draw for p1 seats than GA/p1?

Because it's a completely different option. There is no GA only option anymore, so if you want P1, you check every possible way you can get it.

I don't think only checking the GA/P1 box and checking the P1 box increased chances of getting P1 tickets. It was just an option for people who knew they didn't want GA to not get GA and for PJ to sell more tickets to those who might only want GA but weren't given that option.

Also, I can totally see not wanting to pay $170 a pop to sit in the upper reaches of an arena. I love PJ, of course, but wouldn't put in for a lottery where I could have gotten upper level seats, esp at those prices.

This!

smak · February 2024

Soybeans said:

bootleg said:

OceansJenny said:

estarr31 said:

Honestly P1 kinda sucks…

That map is so bruta

The MSG P1 map sucks because you can't get side stage, but a good member number will put you in a low row on the floor and you don't have to fight for pit position all night.. This is section B, row 4.

Forever I didn't want to get those type seats, I always liked my close side seats, but a couple years ago I sat in them on my friend's 10 club #, and I really liked them. And they weren't row 4, more like 11-12.

pjl44 · February 2024

We're all parsing something that isn't worded particularly well. I approached it with the sophistication of an orangutan. It said check more boxes equals better so I checked all the boxes I saw.

pjl44 · February 2024

Granted my 10C number is good so very little downside to check boxes check boxes check more boxes.

Except if there was a Fenway P2 I wouldn't have checked that box.

Johnny Abruzzo · February 2024

pjl44 said:

Granted my 10C number is good so very little downside to check boxes check boxes check more boxes.

Except if there was a Fenway P2 I wouldn't have checked that box.

I was in "Fenway P2" in 2016 - aka the jabroni section. A bunch of bozos sitting on their hands during friggin In Hiding.

Happy to not traipse all the way up there this year.

mookieb14 · February 2024

Everything Shza has posted in these 99 pages I agree with 100%. Pretty sure there are still major flaws with this process that are not fully understood because no one knows exactly how the draws take place. 10club or TM could very easily lay out the exact procedure. They choose not too so we are left with the unknown. And I can’t overstate it enough but the show priority elimination was terrible mistake.

on2legs · February 2024

I love floor seats! Some photos from 5/2/16 at MSG when Ed decided to stroll into the crowd and climb up on the rail right in front of me. We were dead center in row 1 behind GA.

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pjl44 · February 2024

Johnny Abruzzo said:

pjl44 said:

Granted my 10C number is good so very little downside to check boxes check boxes check more boxes.

Except if there was a Fenway P2 I wouldn't have checked that box.

I was in "Fenway P2" in 2016 - aka the jabroni section. A bunch of bozos sitting on their hands during friggin In Hiding.

Happy to not traipse all the way up there this year.

Arena and stadium shows are so expensive now. No way I can drop that dough on bad seats.

DF38549 · February 2024

So if this gives anyone hope, I just got confirmed for both Seattle shows (today, Tuesday, Feb 20th, around 2:10 PM) even though I assumed I didn't get these tix since I didn't get any emails about Seattle yesterday.

Weston1283 · February 2024

Just got my card re-charged by 10c after yesterdays fraud alert

IN FOR MSG NIGHT 2 GA!!!

pjl44 · February 2024

It's happening

TheAnc31 · February 2024

DF38549 said:

So if this gives anyone hope, I just got confirmed for both Seattle shows (today, Tuesday, Feb 20th, around 2:10 PM) even though I assumed I didn't get these tix since I didn't get any emails about Seattle yesterday.

This does give me hope for my LA show request! Thanks, I'll keep hope alive until I get the "Sorry" email!

cfield05 · February 2024

Just got my email for Missoula! 1/1!

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