Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

know1

NewfieintheUSA said:

know1 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.

I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure 

And I took it at face value. However, the shows I put in for didn't have a P2. 

EBowie

I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered.  That was cool.  Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter.  What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?

ComeToTX

seat locations. 

NewfieintheUSA

EBowie said:

I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered.  That was cool.  Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter.  What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?

It's been a long time where 10c number hasn't helped you actually win entry

jwhjr17

EBowie said:

I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered.  That was cool.  Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter.  What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?

If everyone got a trophy everyone would get tickets.  And your number has zero to do with getting tickets.

on2legs

SHZA said:

on2legs said:

It's possible for each show there were 3 individual pulls for tickets.  First was for the GA section, then the P1 seats, and then for P2 seats.  If you checked all three you would have 3 chances to get seats.

Why wouldn't you have a chance at P1 if you only checked GA-P1 and P2? Or were there really 4 potential chances, GA, P1 linked to GA, P1 standalone, and P2. 

I got P1s for Vegas and B'more and only checked the GA-P1 box but not the P1 standalone box 

I'm just trying to make sense of the "increase your chances" lingo from the instructions. 

know1

EBowie said:

I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered.  That was cool.  Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter.  What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?

When was that, 25-30 years ago? It's been a lottery for a long, long time. 

Seniority is for seat location....although mine have been getting worse through the duration of my 20 year membership.

SHZA

NewfieintheUSA said:

know1 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.

I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure 

Right, "selecting multiple seat preferences will increase your chances" -- i.e., selecting GA-P1 increases your chances compared to just P1, and adding P2 increases your chances further, but checking P1 in addition to GA-P1 shouldn't increase your chances because P1 is the same seat preference you already selected. Unless there was a second pool of P1s that weren't included in the GA-P1 pool. If that's not the case, then P1 only should have been disabled (or automatically checked) once you selected GA-P1. 

on2legs

know1 said:

on2legs said:

It's possible for each show there were 3 individual pulls for tickets.  First was for the GA section, then the P1 seats, and then for P2 seats.  If you checked all three you would have 3 chances to get seats.

Some shows didn't have P2.

Then you would just select whatever is available.  I'm not saying this is what happened.  Just trying to understand the instructions and why they said it would increase your chances. 

PJ and Dylan are my muse

know1 said:

EBowie said:

I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered.  That was cool.  Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter.  What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?

When was that, 25-30 years ago? It's been a lottery for a long, long time. 

Seniority is for seat location....although mine have been getting worse through the duration of my 20 year membership.

That makes sense though; as someone who became member last week pulls a GA, that pushes all seniority back by that seat, etc. etc.  Plus changes in configurations of 10C seat sales in venues as well.

Lowlight11

on2legs said:

know1 said:

on2legs said:

It's possible for each show there were 3 individual pulls for tickets.  First was for the GA section, then the P1 seats, and then for P2 seats.  If you checked all three you would have 3 chances to get seats.

Some shows didn't have P2.

Then you would just select whatever is available.  I'm not saying this is what happened.  Just trying to understand the instructions and why they said it would increase your chances. 

I checked every level and got every show I put in for and I only put in for MSG night 2.

know1

SHZA said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

know1 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.

I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure 

Right, "selecting multiple seat preferences will increase your chances" -- i.e., selecting GA-P1 increases your chances compared to just P1, and adding P2 increases your chances further, but checking P1 in addition to GA-P1 shouldn't increase your chances because P1 is the same seat preference you already selected. Unless there was a second pool of P1s that weren't included in the GA-P1 pool. If that's not the case, then P1 only should have been disabled (or automatically checked) once you selected GA-P1. 

It's difficult to understand how someone could be going against what the fan club told us was the case. If they said right there in black and white that choosing more options increased your chances, why would you second guess it and not follow their instructions?

cincybearcat

know1 said:

SHZA said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

know1 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.

I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure 

Right, "selecting multiple seat preferences will increase your chances" -- i.e., selecting GA-P1 increases your chances compared to just P1, and adding P2 increases your chances further, but checking P1 in addition to GA-P1 shouldn't increase your chances because P1 is the same seat preference you already selected. Unless there was a second pool of P1s that weren't included in the GA-P1 pool. If that's not the case, then P1 only should have been disabled (or automatically checked) once you selected GA-P1. 

It's difficult to understand how someone could be going against what the fan club told us was the case. If they said right there in black and white that choosing more options increased your chances, why would you second guess it and not follow their instructions?

Same thing happened last lottery. And will happen next lottery.

Johnny Abruzzo

know1 said:

SHZA said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

know1 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.

I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure 

Right, "selecting multiple seat preferences will increase your chances" -- i.e., selecting GA-P1 increases your chances compared to just P1, and adding P2 increases your chances further, but checking P1 in addition to GA-P1 shouldn't increase your chances because P1 is the same seat preference you already selected. Unless there was a second pool of P1s that weren't included in the GA-P1 pool. If that's not the case, then P1 only should have been disabled (or automatically checked) once you selected GA-P1. 

It's difficult to understand how someone could be going against what the fan club told us was the case. If they said right there in black and white that choosing more options increased your chances, why would you second guess it and not follow their instructions?

Some people are just too good to sit up in the nosebleeds.

know1

cincybearcat said:

know1 said:

SHZA said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

know1 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.

I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure 

Right, "selecting multiple seat preferences will increase your chances" -- i.e., selecting GA-P1 increases your chances compared to just P1, and adding P2 increases your chances further, but checking P1 in addition to GA-P1 shouldn't increase your chances because P1 is the same seat preference you already selected. Unless there was a second pool of P1s that weren't included in the GA-P1 pool. If that's not the case, then P1 only should have been disabled (or automatically checked) once you selected GA-P1. 

It's difficult to understand how someone could be going against what the fan club told us was the case. If they said right there in black and white that choosing more options increased your chances, why would you second guess it and not follow their instructions?

Same thing happened last lottery. And will happen next lottery.

No doubt.

know1

Johnny Abruzzo said:

know1 said:

SHZA said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

know1 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.

I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure 

Right, "selecting multiple seat preferences will increase your chances" -- i.e., selecting GA-P1 increases your chances compared to just P1, and adding P2 increases your chances further, but checking P1 in addition to GA-P1 shouldn't increase your chances because P1 is the same seat preference you already selected. Unless there was a second pool of P1s that weren't included in the GA-P1 pool. If that's not the case, then P1 only should have been disabled (or automatically checked) once you selected GA-P1. 

It's difficult to understand how someone could be going against what the fan club told us was the case. If they said right there in black and white that choosing more options increased your chances, why would you second guess it and not follow their instructions?

Some people are just too good to sit up in the nosebleeds.

Oh I get that. But I'm saying why would they claim that the Ten Club didn't mean exactly what it said? 

MD190661

AFJAMMER said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

AFJAMMER said:

jimjam1982 said:

know1 said:

BF25394 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

And an example of what I just asked, so forget that. I guess it would help to see a lot more split like this -> there should be significantly more GA N1 and P1 N2 (or vice versa) examples that GA N1 and GA N2. I've noticed a lot more of the latter.

I've highlighted a key phrase.

The night before the Super Bowl, I went out and did karaoke with some friends. One of my friends performed "Ca plane pour moi." A few days later, I was watching a hockey game when I saw a Heineken commercial with that song in it that I'd never noticed before. I mentioned it to the friend. Shortly thereafter, he replied that he saw it on a different channel. The next night, we were at a bar and the commercial came on TV while we were there. I've seen it a few more times since then.

Did this commercial not exist until last week, or did we just not notice it until the song was top-of-mind after the karaoke performance? I looked it up, and it turns out the ad has been airing since January 9. We did karaoke on February 10. I noticed the commercial for the first time on February 13. So it's the second option (something sometimes called Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon).

With respect to the ticket lottery, it's something different. People are noticing things that fit the pattern they think they see and not noticing the things that don't. It is normal for humans to do this.

Also - people could be lying about their results.

There are huge variables at play here and it's quite interesting to see how people can think they are so sure of something when they basically know almost nothing.

Based on some of the questions being asked...I would bet a lot of people entered TM Verified Fan and thought that was their 10c registration. So they are like oh i lost...when truthfully they never entered.  Then there are also legit folks who know the drill and drew the short straw repeatedly.

I agree for the ones went 0/???

if you got at least one, you know you did it correctly.

I went 0/ and I have my request confirmation 

There were 2 confirmations sent. One was for the 10c tix and another for verified fan. It is possible to mix those two up and think they got shut out, but didn’t even enter the 10c.

I think my friend did this. He said he should hear Thursday about tickets. I said I think you'll hear Thursday for the verified sale, not the 10 Club sale. Sucks because he's a 10 Club member. They kind of made it seem you needed to be a 10 Club member for the verified sale. It was a tad confusing if you were multitasking. 

broe01

MD190661 said:

AFJAMMER said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

AFJAMMER said:

jimjam1982 said:

know1 said:

BF25394 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

And an example of what I just asked, so forget that. I guess it would help to see a lot more split like this -> there should be significantly more GA N1 and P1 N2 (or vice versa) examples that GA N1 and GA N2. I've noticed a lot more of the latter.

I've highlighted a key phrase.

The night before the Super Bowl, I went out and did karaoke with some friends. One of my friends performed "Ca plane pour moi." A few days later, I was watching a hockey game when I saw a Heineken commercial with that song in it that I'd never noticed before. I mentioned it to the friend. Shortly thereafter, he replied that he saw it on a different channel. The next night, we were at a bar and the commercial came on TV while we were there. I've seen it a few more times since then.

Did this commercial not exist until last week, or did we just not notice it until the song was top-of-mind after the karaoke performance? I looked it up, and it turns out the ad has been airing since January 9. We did karaoke on February 10. I noticed the commercial for the first time on February 13. So it's the second option (something sometimes called Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon).

With respect to the ticket lottery, it's something different. People are noticing things that fit the pattern they think they see and not noticing the things that don't. It is normal for humans to do this.

Also - people could be lying about their results.

There are huge variables at play here and it's quite interesting to see how people can think they are so sure of something when they basically know almost nothing.

Based on some of the questions being asked...I would bet a lot of people entered TM Verified Fan and thought that was their 10c registration. So they are like oh i lost...when truthfully they never entered.  Then there are also legit folks who know the drill and drew the short straw repeatedly.

I agree for the ones went 0/???

if you got at least one, you know you did it correctly.

I went 0/ and I have my request confirmation 

There were 2 confirmations sent. One was for the 10c tix and another for verified fan. It is possible to mix those two up and think they got shut out, but didn’t even enter the 10c.

I think my friend did this. He said he should hear Thursday about tickets. I said I think you'll hear Thursday for the verified sale, not the 10 Club sale. Sucks because he's a 10 Club member. They kind of made it seem you needed to be a 10 Club member for the verified sale. It was a tad confusing if you were multitasking. 

I think this is what I did 2 years ago tbh

CantKeepmedown

EBowie said:

I remember when having a good 10C number actually mattered.  That was cool.  Now we live in this "everyone gets a trophy" era and my years of faithfully maintaining my membership seems to not matter.  What's the point of having membership numbers if we're all just the same ping-pong ball in a lottery machine?

Your good 10C number has not come into play whatsoever at this point. For the lottery, all memberships are created equally.  Now you can argue that's not fair (some have) and that longer memberships could be weighted differently. But I have no idea how they would begin to do that. 

SHZA

know1 said:

SHZA said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

know1 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.

I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure 

Right, "selecting multiple seat preferences will increase your chances" -- i.e., selecting GA-P1 increases your chances compared to just P1, and adding P2 increases your chances further, but checking P1 in addition to GA-P1 shouldn't increase your chances because P1 is the same seat preference you already selected. Unless there was a second pool of P1s that weren't included in the GA-P1 pool. If that's not the case, then P1 only should have been disabled (or automatically checked) once you selected GA-P1. 

It's difficult to understand how someone could be going against what the fan club told us was the case. If they said right there in black and white that choosing more options increased your chances, why would you second guess it and not follow their instructions?

But they didn't say "checking more boxes" increases your chances. They said "selecting multiple seat preferences." The question is really whether P1 standalone is the same "seat preference" as P1 when it's grouped with GA. I think it's ambiguous. Why would checking P1 by itself be a new "seat preference" if you've already selected P1 by checking the GA-P1 box? Was there a second pool of P1 tickets that wasn't included in the GA-P1 pool? Or did you essentially get two entries in the P1 lottery by checking the P1 standalone box in addition to the GA-P1 box? Totally unclear