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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,316
    lastexitlondon said:
    I would say hand washing and distance make perfect sense. No brainer
    That right there is why there is any controversy. Too many people running around without their brain properly engaged.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,605
    I think the statement was that the six feet was not necessarily the silver bullet, i.e., there wasn't a magic distance that made you all the sudden super safe. Staying at home > 20 feet > 10 feet > 6 feet >1 foot.

    Unfortunately, people that only read headlines and are looking to be outrage are essentially interpreting it as "all social distancing was worthless."  I can't wait for next time when we have no precautions.
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    lastexitlondon said:
    I would say hand washing and distance make perfect sense. No brainer
    What make sense Rob, to get the virus at 1.95m and not at 2.05m??..
    you know why I'm asking you..
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,870
    I believe in science and I believe that all viruses that are airborne makes sense to keep your distance. I still feel like during winter or seasons where virus is more rife keep a distance and it may only be me but I'm not comfortable right in anyone's face or space. I know how airborne virus works. I know it's not for everyone but I stay away from close up situations as much as I can. That's me


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,870
    I will add I did this  well before covid. And it's not new to me to think this way


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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    Poncier said:
    Go Beavers said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I'm sure the 6 feet thing was less-than-precise. I don't necessarily think that means we needed to be breaking fire codes at clubs and packing ourselves into places like sardeans. 

    I mean, COVID is airborne so should we walk-back the messages promoting hand-washing?
    Fauci lied about the handwashing thing because he’s been to public restrooms and he saw a good opportunity to go after the take a dump but don’t wash my hand crowd. 


  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,523
    I can’t believe we are still dealing with this virus! My adult daughter tested positive last night she works at a child care facility and off course no one is being careful no mask no distancing nothing! They just keep spreading it ughhh 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    josevolution said:
    I can’t believe we are still dealing with this virus! My adult daughter tested positive last night she works at a child care facility and off course no one is being careful no mask no distancing nothing! They just keep spreading it ughhh 

    ummm, still dealing with varients of the spanish flu jose. more than 100 yrs now. will be the same with this , I expect....
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    mickeyrat said:
    josevolution said:
    I can’t believe we are still dealing with this virus! My adult daughter tested positive last night she works at a child care facility and off course no one is being careful no mask no distancing nothing! They just keep spreading it ughhh 

    ummm, still dealing with varients of the spanish flu jose. more than 100 yrs now. will be the same with this , I expect....
    Completely agree. This is milder than the Flu at least.  
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
    ''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    23scidoo said:
    But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
    ''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..
    What's the difference whether it came from a Chinese lab or not?  Are you going to throw away your cell phone and computer to protest the Chinese?  
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    23scidoo said:
    But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
    ''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..
    Your certainty about it coming from a lab is sourced where? 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    Go Beavers said:
    23scidoo said:
    But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
    ''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..
    Your certainty about it coming from a lab is sourced where? 

    duh, it cant definitively be disproved so that is the proof.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    its so fucking funny, I mean really. Since this began China's economy is doing very badly. 

    So what would have been the point? to create something then not have an effective means of control so as not to devastate your own country? then have the vaccine your country crested to combat this be very ineffective against?

    again, what was the point then?
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    edited January 2024
    mickeyrat said:
    its so fucking funny, I mean really. Since this began China's economy is doing very badly. 

    So what would have been the point? to create something then not have an effective means of control so as not to devastate your own country? then have the vaccine your country crested to combat this be very ineffective against?

    again, what was the point then?
    Or, as humanity does from time to time, it gets ahead of itself and starts creating virus strains as part of research and it got leaked.  Called gain of function research.  I think it is more silly to think that it wasn't leaked accidentally, but I don't act condescending to those who think that. 

    John Stewart on the Wuhan Coronavirus Lab (youtube.com) 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    bootlegger10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    its so fucking funny, I mean really. Since this began China's economy is doing very badly. 

    So what would have been the point? to create something then not have an effective means of control so as not to devastate your own country? then have the vaccine your country crested to combat this be very ineffective against?

    again, what was the point then?
    Or, as humanity does from time to time, it gets ahead of itself and starts creating virus strains as part of research and it got leaked.  Called gain of function research.  I think it is more silly to think that it wasn't leaked accidentally, but I don't act condescending to those who think that. 

    John Stewart on the Wuhan Coronavirus Lab (youtube.com) 

    while plausible, its equally so that a zooinotic jumped as has happened often enough over time.

    so in my view it comes down to whats probable , both could be. given conditions as described, I happen to lean natural over the synthetic , whereas some here seem to infer it was a purposeful release and not accidental as posited above.

    given the number of feces related viruses to infect humans, thats where my money is at.

    either way, its a thing to now guard against taking neccessary precautions or not as one may see fit.
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
    ''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..
    What's the difference whether it came from a Chinese lab or not?  Are you going to throw away your cell phone and computer to protest the Chinese?  
    HUGE..
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,523
    23scidoo said:
    Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??
    What do you mean fooled? Does it really matter what the origin is at this point? Over a million deaths just here in America even knowing where the virus originated from wouldn’t have prevented the casualties! 
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    23scidoo said:
    Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??
    You mean the lies told about the vaccine? 

    It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
    https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/

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